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#26 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:41 PM

i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:43 PM

I`m living in Argentina now,
so that makes me rude?

i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

I agree, you've never been rude to me, and I appreciate your support of Harmony.

#28 sermajic OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:44 PM

the mods removed Bob`s post because he called me asshole

and

i wish people like you support Batari`s projects half the way i had



i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.



#29 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:04 PM

the mods removed Bob`s post because he called me asshole

and

i wish people like you support Batari`s projects half the way i had




i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.

I own two Harmonys, and was the first person to ask about the possibility of the H2 a long, long time ago.

#30 sermajic OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:07 PM

2 Harmony carts?!

all for yourself ?

and you were the First to ask for Harmony 2!!

how`s that for support...






the mods removed Bob`s post because he called me asshole

and

i wish people like you support Batari`s projects half the way i had




i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.

I own two Harmonys, and was the first person to ask about the possibility of the H2 a long, long time ago.


Edited by sermajic, Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:09 PM.


#31 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:26 PM

2 Harmony carts?!

all for yourself ?

and you were the First to ask for Harmony 2!!

how`s that for support...







the mods removed Bob`s post because he called me asshole

and

i wish people like you support Batari`s projects half the way i had




i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.

I own two Harmonys, and was the first person to ask about the possibility of the H2 a long, long time ago.


And your point is what?

That you get to call btari's products "not deluxe enough" because you ordered 5-10 to resell to people in Argentina at some ridiculously astronomical markup price?

How much profit did you turn on reselling them, and not share with batari?

$800, maybe $1,000 pesos?

Christ, they charge $6,000.00 pesos for a retail Sony PSP down there, when the exchange rate is only 3.5 to 1. (for those counting at home, that's a 1,000% markup.)

#32 sermajic OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:29 PM

you clearly don`t know me...

yet keep on judging
maybe i should talk to your wifePosted Image




2 Harmony carts?!

all for yourself ?

and you were the First to ask for Harmony 2!!

how`s that for support...







the mods removed Bob`s post because he called me asshole

and

i wish people like you support Batari`s projects half the way i had




i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

You told bob to get a life, and then the mods removed your post.

and in this thread you just told batari that the deluxe Harmony was "no deluxe at all" and crassly compared it to other products it has nothing to do with.

I own two Harmonys, and was the first person to ask about the possibility of the H2 a long, long time ago.


And your point is what?

That you get to call btari's products "not deluxe enough" because you ordered 5-10 to resell to people in Argentina at some ridiculously astronomical markup price?

How much profit did you turn on reselling them, and not share with batari?

$800, maybe $1,000 pesos?

Christ, they charge $6,000.00 pesos for a retail Sony PSP down there, when the exchange rate is only 3.5 to 1. (for those counting at home, that's a 1,000% markup.)



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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:56 PM

If you guys don't stop the bickering, people are going to start seeing threads locked and people being put on mod preview permanently. Cut it out, this is your only warning.

#34 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:58 PM

Never mind. It's not worth it.

Atarimax has no stated intention of making a 7800 cart, so this thread is fantasy anyway.

Edited by Underball, Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:02 PM.


#35 sermajic OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:30 PM

you don`t know what you are talking about

maybe contacting steve...

Never mind. It's not worth it.

Atarimax has no stated intention of making a 7800 cart, so this thread is fantasy anyway.


Edited by sermajic, Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:31 PM.


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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:01 PM

You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.

#37 horseboy OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:18 PM

You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.



Hey dude, slow down. A lot of people here respect you and appreciate the work you do. You can count me on that list. I will vouch that he told you to get a life. I did see that post. I didn't see your response so I didn't respond. Others might not have responded for a couple of reasons. One reason is that this guy is obviously a troll and nobody is listening to what he is saying. I am sure most people believed what Underball stated just because of the way the OP has been acting. Another reason people might not have responded is because they didn't see either post before they were deleted so they have no input. I am positive that if everybody had all the facts they would have had your back here.

Take a week off from the forums and cool off. Don't let some turd and an unfortunate situation take you out of the 7800 scene. There are only 4 or 5 people that are really keeping the 7800 going and you are obviously a huge part of that. Don't sweat the petty stuff, pet the sweaty stuff.

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:39 PM

You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.


Please don't let that douche get you down Bob. There are many people here, including myself, who greatly appreciate all the work you do for the Atari community.

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#39 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:10 PM

You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.



Bob, You don't need to go anywhere. You're a great guy and the most accomplished 7800 homebrew programmer to date. The last thing this scene needs is to lose a true talent who actually finishes what he starts, and delivers what he promises, and along the way shares his ideas and hard work with everyone.

Honestly in the last year or so, the whole atari homebrew scene here seems to have been co-opted by ego maniacs, conniving profiteers, and condescending know-it-alls. With the great Kenfused having pretty much moved on to other projects, and Propane13 having other more important things going on, - the horizon is looking empty and bleak.

Don't go. Just ignore the Haters.

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Edited by Underball, Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:16 PM.


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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:19 PM

Don't go. Just ignore the Haters.


Exactly. You can add him to your ignore list, don't let someone who pisses you off get to you and certainly do not let them make you leave, screw that, then they win. When you are in the right and you know it, stick to your guns and @#$#$%&! the haters! ;)

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:00 PM

Horseboy (and the others as well) is 1000% right. I just came on here to check on any updates I may have missed. The 7800 SD cart topic caught my attention, then I stumbled upon this mess. I had no idea what had transpired over recent days, but I can't sit here and watch Bob just walk away feeling like no one else gives a crap without throwing in a couple of my own cents.

I still am pretty new around here (at least I still feel like a noob) compared to a lot of you guys, but based on my time spent here so far, Bob you have totally been a stand-up guy (thanks again for taking care of that Meteor Shower rattle ;-)) who is greatly respected and liked by the overwhelming majority of us here. This is actually the first time I've ever even seen or read about you calling anyone names. Obviously, you were provoked, so you did what any normal human being would do. Retaliate. Maybe it was heated, and maybe you posted your retort in the thick of it all, but (almost) everyone here knows you don't just go around attacking anyone. I'd certainly throw in my added support for you, and will also have your back.

I don't know sermajic, and it is not my intent to make an enemy of him, or anyone else, but reading his comments here is disappointing, to say the least, and is positively not worth leaving AA over. As mentioned already, if you feel like taking a break for a few days, hopefully you'll feel better and forget about this, as it is not worth dwelling on. But please don't go, Bob. Your fans and friends would sorely miss you!

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#42 sermajic OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:33 PM

well BoB

i always thought
you `re a terrific programmer

as a person...

...you`re a terrific programmer...




You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.


Edited by sermajic, Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:34 PM.


#43 Underball OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:47 PM

I can't believe the mods are allowing this little shit and his passive aggressive nonsense to persist, even after the bob announced he's leaving.

It's one thing fir people to disagree over silly opinions and troll each other for it. This guy just chased away the only 7800 programmer who has completed a full XM game, a couple of weeks before the damn thing ships. And snubbing Bob on the XM box was an absolute insult. Especially since none of those games on that box will ever be finished. what a giant waste.

Now there will be no Super Circus XM. No PAC-man collection XM, and none of the other games he was working on either.

Good job folks.

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:09 PM

I can't believe the mods are allowing this little shit and his passive aggressive nonsense to persist, even after the bob announced he's leaving.

It's one thing fir people to disagree over silly opinions and troll each other for it. This guy just chased away the only 7800 programmer who has completed a full XM game, a couple of weeks before the damn thing ships. And snubbing Bob on the XM box was an absolute insult. Especially since none of those games on that box will ever be finished. what a giant waste.

Now there will be no Super Circus XM. No PAC-man collection XM, and none of the other games he was working on either.

Good job folks.

I know what you mean.

I am not happy how this went down either because our community lost a great programmer that also is a great person.

Edited by 8th lutz, Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:14 PM.


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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:14 PM


i always thought
you `re a terrific programmer

as a person...

...you`re a terrific programmer...



Please just shut up already! Nobody appreciates your handling of the situation.... :roll:

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:31 PM

...and the provoking persists...

It's pretty clear who is antagonizing who here. I am not going to feed a troll, so this will be my last comment on this, but again, it is quite evident that sermajic is finding entertainment in pushing people's buttons.

Bob, just hit the ignore button on him. Don't leave because of a troll. That is what he would want.

#47 Shawn Sr. OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:12 PM

Bob is an AWESOME person and a guy I'm proud to call my friend.
Nevermind what he's done as far as atari gaming goes as it's clear the guy is a programming ace.

As for you?
Ya you need to shut your cake hole cause all you are is a little blue waffle pushing the wrong buttons. :x

well BoB

i always thought
you `re a terrific programmer

as a person...

...you`re a terrific programmer...



#48 CPUWIZ OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:12 PM

well BoB

i always thought
you `re a terrific programmer

as a person...

...you`re a terrific programmer...





You know, I wasn't going to reply to a troll like yourself, but seeing as the only person who has my back is Underball, I have to call you out on your lies. Your post to me was 'get a life' and I fell for the trap by responding and calling you an asshole. I should have realized that trolls like you are looking for a response. Anyone who actually knows me here knows I don't go around insulting people for no reason.

You know what? I'm done here at AA. Put me on Mod preview, or ban me. I don't give a shit anymore.
Thanks, Underball. You are one of the true friends I had here.


Dude, crawl under a rock. You are now on mod-preview. I am busy working and don't have time for this shit.

#49 Cebus Capucinis OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:17 PM

I'm going to go ignore a troll by playing my excellently programmed and very amazing METEOR SHOWER for the 7800.....I think some guy on AtariAge programmed that, yeah, his name was.....

BOB! :D

:thumbsup: Bar-none one of the staple best programmers on AtariAge, period.

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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:26 PM

What's wrong with Harmony labels?

I think the Harmony label is very nice. I was disappointed that my SD card didn't have a Harmony label, but you nicely explained that to me when I mentioned it before. I am completely satisfied with what I got. :)

But, you are right in one sense. H2 has no LEDs :)

I don't see a need for LEDs on a 2600/7800 SD cart.

i totally respect your opinion!

but the higher priced Harmony version was not that much better,with only a cable for that price

All you got extra was a cable? (That was a rhetorical question.) In addition to the cable, I got an SD card and a manual. [attempted humor]I also got a box, but it was for the wrong cartridge.... Some game called Priority Mail.[/attempted humor] (Seriously, I'm glad it didn't come with a box. It would just be an unnecessary added expense.)

And yes, you're not the only one who didn't like the 32k limit - some of the Harmony developers also felt constrained.

So far, the 32k limit has not been a problem for me. However, if ROMs for games like Chetiry (48KB as of 09 April 2011) are released, it will make me wish I had more memory.

The reason for the 32k chip was so that Melody boards would be inexpensive enough to be feasible.

This information surprised me. I had thought that it was the other way around.... that the 32k was so the Harmony would have a feasible price while the Melody could work with more memory than the Harmony has.

Yes, there were larger chips available but they would have cost too much for Melody. I felt it was important to use the same chip in Melody and Harmony to ensure that any game developed on a Harmony could be released on a cart.

I guess by that you mean that you wanted to ensure that games could be released on a standard Melody cart, since I think Melody carts can have more than 32k. The Chetiry blog page that I linked to above says, "The new Melody hardware also inspired me to include digitized music throughout the game, based on the Pitfall-2 technique." I may be wrong, but I thought this implied that Chetiry (48KB) would be released on the Melody. The Melody's store page also says, "Additionally, Melody boards can be built with a 128K Flash chip, replacing the Melody's standard 32K of Flash memory."

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