Jump to content

Photo

What's the deal with Star Castle 2600?


811 replies to this topic

#326 VectorGamer OFFLINE  

VectorGamer

    Quadrunner

  • 8,576 posts
  • \m/
  • Location:Harrisburg

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:37 AM

One $100 option is a pre-programmed stock Harmony cartridge in a dark shell with no lights. ("The cartridge may not have flashing lights but it is reprogrammable.")


So for $100 I get a Harmony cartridge with an SD card containing Star Castle?

#327 Numan OFFLINE  

Numan

    Stargunner

  • 1,204 posts
  • Location:Jagged Halo

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:53 AM

Let me see if I can do cliff notes on this:

1) Guy #1 spends a lot of time programming Star Castle for 2600 for the challenge and because he was a prior Atari employee.
2) Guy #1 adds up all the time he has spent on the game and going by a reasonable hourly rate, estimates time spent was $32,000.00.
3) Guy#1 offers the rights to his work for $32,000.00, AtariAge members generally laugh.
4) Guy#1 says the game will not be made available.
5) Guy#2 uses more memory and programs a better version of Star Castle and is willing to make it available to the public for considerably less than $32,000.00.
6) Guy#1 launches a website offering his game at $50.00, provided $10,000.00 of games are purchased. Other purchase options are available, including one that has a one hour phone conversation with Guy #1.

#328 iesposta OFFLINE  

iesposta

    Stargunner

  • 1,813 posts
  • Retro-gaming w/my VCS
  • Location:Pennsylvania

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:58 AM




One $100 option is a pre-programmed stock Harmony cartridge in a dark shell with no lights. ("The cartridge may not have flashing lights but it is reprogrammable.")


So for $100 I get a Harmony cartridge with an SD card containing Star Castle?

Without SD card. Harmony can be "flashed" to be a one game cart without an SD Flash Card. It doesn't flash (blink/light up). It's a non-smoker, it doesn't light up. You can reprogram (flash) it to run games from an SD Flash Card, and put your files and the Star Castle file there. Wow, it is kinda funny/confusing...

Numan: Pretty much, except #2 is a stretch. I think solidcorp said that a price he'd sell his home made original prototype was $32,768. He didnt want to sell it, but if offered that amount or more he could not turn it down.

#329 KevinMos3 OFFLINE  

KevinMos3

    Stargunner

  • 1,178 posts
  • Founder of the Timothy Dalton as Bond fan club
  • Location:Behind YOU!

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:01 PM

When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

BTW, do you know if your ROM will play on the z26 emulator? I'm very interested in this because the Atari 2600 emulator for XBox is based on z26 and is primarily how I use emulation.

#330 5-11under OFFLINE  

5-11under

    River Patroller

  • 2,093 posts
  • Location:Ontario, Canada

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:17 PM

When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

It should only charge at the project end date, and if successful.

#331 Wickeycolumbus OFFLINE  

Wickeycolumbus

    River Patroller

  • 4,732 posts
  • Location:Michigan

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:18 PM

Well that went from one of the most expensive homebrews to one of the best values out there over night :)

Where else can you get a homebrew with a custom clear case, custom PCB with LEDs onboard, sealed in box, with a CD containing the ROM/code/artwork, your name on a list of contributors in the manual, AND a good looking game done by an actual Atari programmer from back in the day for only $100?

#332 lapetino OFFLINE  

lapetino

    Moonsweeper

  • 415 posts
  • Location:Chicago, IL

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:18 PM


When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

It should only charge at the project end date, and if successful.


Yep, that's true. Only after successful completion.

#333 Dino OFFLINE  

Dino

    River Patroller

  • 3,362 posts

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:00 PM

Well that went from one of the most expensive homebrews to one of the best values out there over night :)

Where else can you get a homebrew with a custom clear case, custom PCB with LEDs onboard, sealed in box, with a CD containing the ROM/code/artwork, your name on a list of contributors in the manual, AND a good looking game done by an actual Atari programmer from back in the day for only $100?


That's what a little competition does ;) If he didn't get this out before Chris' version was completed, it'd be about as popular as a Krokodile cart was straight after the release of the Harmony.

#334 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:02 PM

When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

BTW, do you know if your ROM will play on the z26 emulator? I'm very interested in this because the Atari 2600 emulator for XBox is based on z26 and is primarily how I use emulation.


I'll double check it on z26, I used to use it.

I'm buried now but I added it to my to-do list. If I don't respond by next week, either re-ping this topic or message me directly.

As far as Kickstarter is concerned, all transactions are handled by Amazon - I had to set up an Amazon merchant account to set up the Kickstarter. I *thought* that they didn't charge anything until the campaign is over and only if it is successful, but I wouldn't be surprised if they put a hold on the accounts to prevent fraud. This is all speculation, I don't know for sure.

#335 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:14 AM

Star Castle 2600 project featured on Make magazine blog!

http://blog.makezine...-to-atari-2600/

#336 Keatah ONLINE  

Keatah

    Quadrunner

  • 7,520 posts

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:26 AM

Why not extend the kickstart campaign and make even more money?

#337 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:53 AM

Why not extend the kickstart campaign and make even more money?


The campaign is not limited financially by the goal so it can make as much money as people pledge in the 30 days time.

I chose 30 days because it is the most successful time interval, longer and people have to wait too long for rewards, shorter and you may not be able to promote your project adequately.

By the end of the 30 days most people who would be interested in this project should have heard of it and had the opportunity to get what they would like.

#338 Keatah ONLINE  

Keatah

    Quadrunner

  • 7,520 posts

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:57 AM

yep :thumbsup:

#339 ls650 OFFLINE  

ls650

    Quadrunner

  • 5,246 posts
  • Atari rocks!
  • Location:British Columbia

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:31 AM

When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

Mmm, yeah. I've never dealt with this 'Kickstarter' before. I'm considering the $50 pledge as well, but I don't really like the idea of getting charged $50 now, and then waiting a long time for a project to go ahead.

If I make a pledge and the project proceeds, what's the timeline like after that...?

#340 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:47 AM

When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

Mmm, yeah. I've never dealt with this 'Kickstarter' before. I'm considering the $50 pledge as well, but I don't really like the idea of getting charged $50 now, and then waiting a long time for a project to go ahead.

If I make a pledge and the project proceeds, what's the timeline like after that...?


It's my understanding that no one is charged until the Kickstarter is complete and successful. If it is not successful, no one is charged.

Estimated delivery time for cartridges is July 2012.

It's all on the Kickstarter page.

#341 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:31 AM

Star Caste 2600 Kickstarter featured on theverge.com

http://www.theverge....ort-kickstarter

#342 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:17 AM


BTW, do you know if your ROM will play on the z26 emulator? I'm very interested in this because the Atari 2600 emulator for XBox is based on z26 and is primarily how I use emulation.

I'll double check it on z26, I used to use it.


It appears to work perfectly under z26 v2.13

Just out of curiosity, is there any advantage to using the z26 emulator for games?

#343 Keatah ONLINE  

Keatah

    Quadrunner

  • 7,520 posts

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 AM

Other than lower system requirements, no.

#344 KevinMos3 OFFLINE  

KevinMos3

    Stargunner

  • 1,178 posts
  • Founder of the Timothy Dalton as Bond fan club
  • Location:Behind YOU!

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:46 AM

It's my understanding that no one is charged until the Kickstarter is complete and successful. If it is not successful, no one is charged.

Estimated delivery time for cartridges is July 2012.

It's all on the Kickstarter page.

It appears to work perfectly under z26 v2.13


Good to know on both counts. I'll have to take another look at it. :)

Edited by KevinMos3, Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:49 AM.


#345 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:14 PM

Kotaku just covered Star Castle 2600!!!

http://kotaku.com/59...-2600-cartridge

#346 solidcorp OFFLINE  

solidcorp

    Moonsweeper

  • 439 posts
  • Location:Wheaton Illinois

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:28 PM

And Star Castle 2600 featured on BoingBoing.com (which is also what I'm doing ~ bouncing off the walls)

http://boingboing.ne...ct-to-port.html

#347 atari2atari OFFLINE  

atari2atari

    Dragonstomper

  • 531 posts
  • Spoken, not slurred.
  • Location:Golden, Colorado

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:43 PM

Well-played, Mr. Williamson, well-played . . .


As is appropriate for the Internet, we require a meme for this moment . . .

Posted Image




I note you are approximately half-way there now on Kickstarter. This becomes more and more interesting!


Pity that Kotaku did not cover the "two sides of STAR CASTLE" but I guess that's out little family secret for now . . . ! ;) It will be a good follow-up article at some point.


In the end, ANYthing that stimulates development on my favorite classic console and reawakens it in the minds of the public is positive in my eyes.


-a2a

Attached Thumbnails

  • clapping_kane.gif

Edited by atari2atari, Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:58 PM.


#348 Dan Iacovelli OFFLINE  

Dan Iacovelli

    Quadrunner

  • 5,399 posts
  • Location:westchester,IL

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:18 PM


When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

Mmm, yeah. I've never dealt with this 'Kickstarter' before. I'm considering the $50 pledge as well, but I don't really like the idea of getting charged $50 now, and then waiting a long time for a project to go ahead.

If I make a pledge and the project proceeds, what's the timeline like after that...?


It's my understanding that no one is charged until the Kickstarter is complete and successful. If it is not successful, no one is charged.

Estimated delivery time for cartridges is July 2012.

It's all on the Kickstarter page.


hmm why does that sound familar to me :roll:
I for sure will put in for it.
for some reason I Keep calling it Star Castles and not Star Castle (love playing the arcde game at galloping ghost hope to get this game for my 2600(I'll of course d/l the rom
to add to my home brew and hacks for harmony) but I do want the cart as well.

#349 Dan Iacovelli OFFLINE  

Dan Iacovelli

    Quadrunner

  • 5,399 posts
  • Location:westchester,IL

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:31 PM



When I saw this thread the other day I went to pledge for the $50 cart, but I realized a pledge meant charging my credit card now. I'm a little strung out right now, so I'll have to hold off on pledging for now, but I like the idea and hope you meet your goal.

Mmm, yeah. I've never dealt with this 'Kickstarter' before. I'm considering the $50 pledge as well, but I don't really like the idea of getting charged $50 now, and then waiting a long time for a project to go ahead.

If I make a pledge and the project proceeds, what's the timeline like after that...?


It's my understanding that no one is charged until the Kickstarter is complete and successful. If it is not successful, no one is charged.

Estimated delivery time for cartridges is July 2012.

It's all on the Kickstarter page.


hmm why does that sound familar to me :roll:
I for sure will put in for it.
for some reason I Keep calling it Star Castles and not Star Castle (love playing the arcde game at galloping ghost hope to get this game for my 2600(I'll of course d/l the rom
to add to my home brew and hacks for harmony) but I do want the cart as well.

I got confused with cd-w star castle and scotts. I'll prob go for the cd and cart on scotts and when I have time I'll give cd-rs a try.

#350 eshu OFFLINE  

eshu

    Chopper Commander

  • 249 posts

Posted Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:06 PM

Just have to say I think this has turned out really well, it looks like it's selling like hotcakes! $6,000 and counting! It's gone from a sales model that I really didn't like to an interesting new one - I wonder if any other homebrew authors will be tempted to follow suit?

I just noticed this section:

a portion of all CD proceeds will be donated to the Stella project to promote continued development.


Something I definitely support - I think it's easy for developers to forget how much they depend on some of the excelent tools that have been developed over recent years, and it's great that Stella and Stephen will benefit from this, so a big +1 to scott from me.




0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users