Tursi Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I appreciate its a really touchy subject talking about commercial games and such. These days more time is spent talking about how touchy a subject commercial ROMs is than anyone being touchy about them. Even back in the day it only really exploded when people trolled for response. I think people just like to say that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 These days more time is spent talking about how touchy a subject commercial ROMs is than anyone being touchy about them. I don't see that much discussion on that subject at all, but have noticed the response to certain posts, usually posts by people new to this forum, seems to be handled in a more sensible and reasonable manner. What occurred was a transition, from that of 'pounce!, they want to come and plunder our games! banish them now!' to a more considered 'we don't discuss that kind of thing here, maybe it'd be more productive if your first posts in the Jaguar forum didn't touch on that subject, welcome to our forum'. Even back in the day it only really exploded when people trolled for response. I think people just like to say that. It's easy to look back with a hint of rosey spectacles, but the forum search facility knows what occurred and when. Much of the noise came from a very few people and their hangers-on, of whom none post here now for various reasons. Maybe they realised spending all their free time in a paranoid frenzy over a perceived piracy menace was in fact self-defeating, as it left on a few minutes here and there to actually write any code, position a few pixels or just generally be productive and positive members of "the community"? Or maybe they continue their crusade in pastures new... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Much of the noise came from a very few people and their hangers-on, of whom none post here now for various reasons. Maybe they realised spending all their free time in a paranoid frenzy over a perceived piracy menace was in fact self-defeating, as it left on a few minutes here and there to actually write any code, position a few pixels or just generally be productive and positive members of "the community"? Given the ranting/trolling individuals there - not a chance... Good news is we no longer have to hear their horseshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I have a hard time believing most people in the Jag community want to fill a flash cart with ROMzorz. I'd like to see a small flash cart for single game distribution. Put a USB port somewhere that can be hidden by a cart label and serve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmetal88 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think I'm gonna do some research and see what it would take to put together a simple flash cart. Not saying I'll actually do it, but I'd like to understand the process at least. Maybe something with one memory bank and a save EEPROM. It'd be fairly easy to put together a flash device that the Jaguar could boot from, I think, but the challenging part (for me, anyway) would be figuring out how to include the proper hardware/firmware for programming the thing over USB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Mmmh... the Skunkboard schematics and software are available for free. Do you want to reinvent the wheel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmetal88 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Mmmh... the Skunkboard schematics and software are available for free. Do you want to reinvent the wheel ? I think you've missed the point of my post. My goal is not necessarily to produce another flash cart, it's just to understand the process that goes into making something like this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 First you capture a live Jaguar using only chickens strapped to your waist and oxen blood. Whilst flailing around like a clubbed seal you must DUCK before it leaps - sending it headlong into the doggie travel container. Once you've bribed the border patrol and flown to less third-wordly destinations you can secretly copy the SpunkBoard schematics.. ..profit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGQuarterly Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Considering the regularity with which Krikzz pumps out flash carts, I don't think it's that difficult if someone has a working knowledge of such things. The only thing in my opinion stopping an Everdrive-type device from being made for the Jaguar is the limited audience. I for one would love a flash cart for the Jag, and I would absolutely fill it up with teh romz. Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Much of the noise came from a very few people and their hangers-on You can call it looking back with rosey spectacles, but I think you missed half my point, which was that certain other people were very happy to feed those few people you note just enough hints and taunts to keep the noise level high. In fact, those certain people still love to bring those few up all the time, even though none of them have posted here for years. That's where my comments were going. I can easily find a half dozen posts in the last 3 months where people, unprompted, mention how they realize talking about playing commercial ROMs is a terrible hot button, when in fact it hasn't been for a very long time. But, no big deal. I've been around for long enough myself now. I just think it's time to let that go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin' Kat Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have a hard time believing most people in the Jag community want to fill a flash cart with ROMzorz. I'd like to see a small flash cart for single game distribution. Put a USB port somewhere that can be hidden by a cart label and serve. I can not imagine that would be a very practical way to distribute new games on cartridge; a one-time use interface for flashing the ROM on every cartridge complete with a usb port that isn't supposed to be used by the end user. That would just result in a game that was unnecessarily expensive to the end-user. For such a need, it'd make more sense to just make a run of PCBs that have the layout to take just enough hardware to run games off of EPROMs. If someone can figure out how to program a game, they can probably figure out how to use an EPROM programmer. Personally, as I've more or less already stated, if someone makes an SD-card enabled flash cartridge similar to the everdrive cartridges with menu system that can run most of the games at a price point similar to that of the everdrive cartridges, I would buy it, and then I would buy a jaguar to put it in. Nothing else would even register for me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I can not imagine that would be a very practical way to distribute new games on cartridge; a one-time use interface for flashing the ROM on every cartridge complete with a usb port that isn't supposed to be used by the end user. http://www.atariage....t/#entry2551787 also, whats that sitting on my Jaguar... ? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Turbo Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://www.atariage....t/#entry2551787 also, whats that sitting on my Jaguar... ? A flashcard ? I'm right ? With a 'Poulpy' on it !! GT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It looks like the fabled Jagtopus beastie to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 How is that coming? You had it working before the Skunkboard Rev 3 was released. Any closer to mass production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 We had a test run manufactured and it went mostly fine, so the design is now ready for mass production 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I have a hard time believing most people in the Jag community want to fill a flash cart with ROMzorz. *raises hand* I just want to play the damn games. Seems a Flash Cart Filled With ROMzorz would be the most efficient way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGQuarterly Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 *raises hand* I just want to play the damn games. Seems a Flash Cart Filled With ROMzorz would be the most efficient way. Yup. I've got a Jag and an RGB cable, and I'd like to make the most of it. Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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