Philflound Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 It'd be interesting if there were crates of this. Phil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 @jmenajr23 I'm surprised your PM box is not full yet! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The biggest unanswered question to me is, how the hell did someone get T-handle molds made and only 25 or so are found? Were these guys nuts, or did something go down that I am totally missing? It would cost me many thousands of dollars to get a mold made for these, I imagine it was way more expensive in the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I see you have been a member since Nov 2013. Did someone contact you or did you stumble upon this thread? Not that it matters, I am just curious. It seems a.bit nuts that your family was responsible for one of the "holy grails" of Atari and you guys never knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmenajr23 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Basically guys, I have not been contacted by anyone in regards to this blog. Back in November 2013 I had registered with AtariAge just because I'm into the gaming industry and I miss all the retro fun games back in the days and wanted to see what's been spoken of. Men-A-Vision has been mentioned only a few times through my lifetime and since my parents and I have left LA over 20 years ago, I think it was spoken of only a couple of times since. Like I said before, I thought it didn't exist and that it was just rumors because Mena was our last name. Today, out of curiosity, I decided again to go over your blogs and when I saw something being said about Sunset Blvd and the Jewelry and Toy Store, it blew my mind and kind of creep me out, because my grandfather ran that store and my father and uncle ran the toy store. So now I'm a believer. I had to talk to my cousin a little while ago about it, and he admitted there was a game created by a friend of his dad's back in those days about a shooting game (alien-ship and the 2D city of Manhattan landscape, etc..) As my cousin would tell me earlier (It's basically pong with buildings and falling alien ships...had to shoot then down as they appeared...it was awesome!). I was only 5 years old when this was going on. The game was actually played in the Toy Store office when we were kids. I can't remember playing it, but my cousin does. I can only do so much, because I live across country and I have no access to anything over in LA. All I can do, which I did, is mention it to my cousin and maybe my uncle will be notified of this. As I told someone earlier, my dad thinks there might be a copy of one somewhere just to have it as a trophy case. But that's just hear say from him. The rest of the family that is in LA, will have to get back to me and let me know if there are any left. But I unfortunately can't push them either, and my cousin said if they did have one, they most likely wouldn't sell it because its one of a kind. There was a person named Tony that my father told me who was Asian that helped contribute towards the invention of the game. I think I've said a lot, but it might take a while to even know what's true if we still have a copy of it or not. I've gotten plenty of messages and appreciate wanting to get information, but I don't have it right now. If my cousin or uncle decides that it's OK you email them, I'll let you know too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) The biggest unanswered question to me is, how the hell did someone get T-handle molds made and only 25 or so are found? Were these guys nuts, or did something go down that I am totally missing? It would cost me many thousands of dollars to get a mold made for these, I imagine it was way more expensive in the 80's. The molds were going to be used for future Men-A-Vision games. They molded 25 copies of the game in blue plastic that was left over from a batch of baby product. These were meant to be production samples. Vendors who ordered more game carts would recieve future shipments in most likely black ABS plastic. Nobody ordered any so none were produced aside from the original batch of 25 commercial samples. Men-A-Vision went bankrupt and folded. I'm only regurgitating what I have heard from other forum members so the above should be taken with a grain of salt. @jmenajr23: We don't want your game, just any facts and info about this mysterious company, for the sake of historical documentation. Yes, the game is worth big bucks, and there are people here who would be willing to shell out cash for one, but I understand completely that it is a family heirloom. I think I'm speaking for everyone here, that we totally respect any decision to not sell it. Edited May 8, 2015 by stardust4ever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I wonder if there are any prototypes. What do you think an Air Raid Prototype would fetch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I wonder if there are any prototypes. What do you think an Air Raid Prototype would fetch? Production sample = prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Production sample = prototype. Is it really? A production sample would be made with the intended production design. A prototype is more like a test part the way we talk about them here. It can be cobbled together with whatever is available to test the design concept. It wouldn't need to look like the production part if it's intent was to say test the s/w. In the industry I work in: prototype = built with production intent design to verify functional requirements are met. It's not required to use production material sources, process or tooling. It can even deviate from the production design if necessary and we determine it won't affect outcome of test. production sample = built with production material sources, process and tooling. It's intended to validate the production process prior to full scale production. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The molds were going to be used for future Men-A-Vision games. They molded 25 copies of the game in blue plastic that was left over from a batch of baby product. These were meant to be production samples. Vendors who ordered more game carts would recieve future shipments in most likely black ABS plastic. Nobody ordered any so none were produced aside from the original batch of 25 commercial samples. Men-A-Vision went bankrupt and folded. Do you live in Colorado? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Do you live in Colorado? Sorry, I don't poke smot. Joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Whoa, just checked-in on this after forgetting the thread even existed. Sounds like a great potential lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Updates? ...anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Someone really needs to canvass the publicly available sources (e.g. city directories, corporate registration records, etc.), but this type of research cannot be done online -- it requires an actual physical presence in Los Angeles to visit libraries and similar institutions. There is very much publicly available information that has not been (and probably never will be) digitized and made available online. It is unfortunate that no AA member in the area is interested in pursuing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Updates? ...anyone? Times One Hundred Billion [!!!] Someone really needs to canvass the publicly available sources (e.g. city directories, corporate registration records, etc.), but this type of research cannot be done online -- it requires an actual physical presence in Los Angeles to visit libraries and similar institutions. There is very much publicly available information that has not been (and probably never will be) digitized and made available online. It is unfortunate that no AA member in the area is interested in pursuing this. What of the OP who started this thread and promised updates??? Did he hit a dead end? It would have been nice to keep us informed regardless... It is unfortunate this thread didn't turn out the way landfill adventures did. For those not informed, someone started a thread about digging up ET carts in the desert and some years later it actually happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 I started this thread... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 You started so you'll finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Pez Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Its to bad no one ever made copy's or homebrews of this game so we all could buy it and play it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Dare I say....Hozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Its to bad no one ever made copy's or homebrews of this game so we all could buy it and play it if you want a copy, just ask Al, I am shure he would make you one once the store is open again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Its to bad no one ever made copy's or homebrews of this game so we all could buy it and play it It's all been done before... http://atariage.com/forums/topic/245299-boxed-air-raid-sells-for-500/?p=3361663 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It's all been done before... http://atariage.com/forums/topic/245299-boxed-air-raid-sells-for-500/?p=3361663 Wow! That is one overengineered T-Handle. I guess I like it, because I can't stop looking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Wow! That is one overengineered T-Handle. I guess I like it, because I can't stop looking at it. It wouldn't have been so bad had the seller not tried to pull a fast scam by listing it as a legit cart. Lots of juicy drama in the thread I linked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Its to bad no one ever made copy's or homebrews of this game so we all could buy it and play it How about an Intellivision version? http://www.intellivisionrevolution.com/airraid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 How about an Intellivision version? http://www.intellivisionrevolution.com/airraid 20161023_130449.jpg That's pretty bad ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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