Bid retractions on ebay

[Atarian7]

Are you no longer able to retract bids on ebay? I can't find where to do it.

[Jaymiester]

Bid Retractions start here.

[Atarian7]

Thanks.

[Atarian7]

Ok next question: Where is the item number?

 

 

Never mind. I found it. LOL

Edited December 22, 2012 by Atarian7

[+save2600]

ebay keeps moving shit around. A lot of sites do and are becoming less and less intuitive, year after year. Some call that "progress".

[bojay1997]

May I ask why you would ever need to retract a bid on Ebay? As far as I'm concerned, when I place a bid, I am agreeing to be bound by it. There is absolutely no reason anyone should ever retract a bid. If you're unsure about an item or your financial situation, just don't bid on it until those things are worked out.

[nopaybob]

[nitrosport]

May I ask why you would ever need to retract a bid on Ebay? As far as I'm concerned, when I place a bid, I am agreeing to be bound by it. There is absolutely no reason anyone should ever retract a bid. If you're unsure about an item or your financial situation, just don't bid on it until those things are worked out.

 

Sometimes mistakes happen like adding an extra zero by accident. I once retracted a bid I made when I hadn't realised the auction was in euros. I then bid again accordingly.

Edited December 22, 2012 by nitrosport

[Philflound]

I retracted a bid for this item.

 

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170962005438

 

When it was discovered that the boxes were tampered with, despite the fact that the seller probably didn't do it, he updated the list stating he knows nothing about boxes and what they look like.

I put a real high bid in when I first saw the item. Then after sleeping on it, the term "artwork" in the title bothered me and I went back to the listing to see a whole bunch of people had asked him questions about whether the boxes had been cut. He says they don't look cut, but my guess is that someone used a paper cutter that was very precise. They liked the boxes but not the flaps. I thought maybe they were promotional items never used, but being from various companies and some having retail store price stickers changed my thinking of that. I asked the guy to look at a couple of boxes, unflatten them, and then tell me if there were flaps tucked inside. He didn't really want to do any work and gave me the response of "I don't know crap about these things, etc." as you can read in his question/response section.

 

This would have been a great lot for me as I needed a few of the boxes, but could have put more detail in the variation website list and possibly found a few new variations. Oh,well.

 

Anyway, I don't think people should retract bids too often, but in the case of the seller changing the description, then it is allowed. I actually rebid at a much lower price, but got outbid rather quickly. I just hope the winner is happy with cut boxes, even though some of them are rarer. I'm not putting any extra money into this.

 

Phil

[Albert]

I retracted a bid for this item.

 

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170962005438

 

It's pretty clear that the box tops and bottoms have been cut off all the boxes except those that never had them (such as the Imagic boxes), and some of the Intellivision boxes. It's a shame, as that's a nice collection of boxes and the otherwise look to be in great shape.

 

..Al

[bojay1997]

I retracted a bid for this item.

 

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170962005438

 

When it was discovered that the boxes were tampered with, despite the fact that the seller probably didn't do it, he updated the list stating he knows nothing about boxes and what they look like.

I put a real high bid in when I first saw the item. Then after sleeping on it, the term "artwork" in the title bothered me and I went back to the listing to see a whole bunch of people had asked him questions about whether the boxes had been cut. He says they don't look cut, but my guess is that someone used a paper cutter that was very precise. They liked the boxes but not the flaps. I thought maybe they were promotional items never used, but being from various companies and some having retail store price stickers changed my thinking of that. I asked the guy to look at a couple of boxes, unflatten them, and then tell me if there were flaps tucked inside. He didn't really want to do any work and gave me the response of "I don't know crap about these things, etc." as you can read in his question/response section.

 

This would have been a great lot for me as I needed a few of the boxes, but could have put more detail in the variation website list and possibly found a few new variations. Oh,well.

 

Anyway, I don't think people should retract bids too often, but in the case of the seller changing the description, then it is allowed. I actually rebid at a much lower price, but got outbid rather quickly. I just hope the winner is happy with cut boxes, even though some of them are rarer. I'm not putting any extra money into this.

 

Phil

 

I'm sorry, but I don't think that is a valid reason for retracting a bid. You could have easily asked the seller questions before placing a bid. I've been a buyer on Ebay for over 15 years and I have bid on tens of thousands of items over the years. I have never retracted a bid and the only valid reason I could ever imagine for retracting a bid is if a seller literally changes the item completely or admits that what is pictured is not what is really being sold or otherwise engages in fraud. That doesn't appear to be the case here. You just imagined that this was something it was not and that could have easily been avoided by asking questions first. The claim somebody else made about adding an extra zero or euros is similarly ridiculous. Ebay gives you a confirmation screen and a currency conversion for your bid before you confirm. From the buyer's perspective, I think easy bid retractions allow for too much fraud and manipulation and also allows unscrupulous buyers and sellers to get insight into what a legitimate bidder is willing to pay for an item. That hurts buyers and should never be allowed. If you don't know what you're bidding on, don't bid, it's really as simple as that.

[Atari_Bill]

It's pretty clear that the box tops and bottoms have been cut off all the boxes except those that never had them (such as the Imagic boxes), and some of the Intellivision boxes. It's a shame, as that's a nice collection of boxes and the otherwise look to be in great shape.

 

..Al

 

I was interested in that too until I realized this. It really seems to me that the seller is being purposely vague in answering the questions asked. Whether you know anything about these or not, how hard is it to answer a VERY detailed questioned about your product such as one asked here. Come on!

[Philflound]

It's your opinion bojay, but the fact that he changed the description lends buyers to be able to withdraw bids. Like I said, I retracted the bid and then rebid because I still think they had some value in them. Just not what I originally was going to pay for them. And there is no EASY bid retractions anymore. It's actually rather difficult to retract a bid or even consider doing so because it's not available on the item listing. I had to go into the help section and do a search on it. So I asked the question to the seller and he gave me a vague answer. I would have retracted the bid afterwards since he wasn't willing to do the work and answer my question confidently. I gave him two boxes to just unflatten and see if there were top and bottom flaps inside and he refused to do it. So the result of me retracting the bid would have been the same. Some sellers don't answer questions at all, or wait until the last minute to answer, sort of like this guy did. I asked the question 2 days prior and he took that long to give me the lame answer he did. So I made my judgment ahead of time because he wouldn't answer me. You never retracted a bid, that's great. But there is a need for it sometimes. Yes, people used to abuse it back in the day, putting in a bid, then pulling out to see what the next high bidder was willing to go to and then rebidding just enough to beat him or not bid at all. Sellers used to abuse it too with shill bidding with 2nd accounts or have friends bid up the items and retract. But for the most part, I think retraction of bids do not happen that often anymore.

 

Phil

[kennybrooks]

I'm sorry, but I don't think that is a valid reason for retracting a bid. You could have easily asked the seller questions before placing a bid. I've been a buyer on Ebay for over 15 years and I have bid on tens of thousands of items over the years. I have never retracted a bid and the only valid reason I could ever imagine for retracting a bid i s if a seller literally changes the item completely or admits that what is pictured is not what is really being sold or otherwise engages in fraud. That doesn't appear to be the case here. You just imagined that this was something it was not and that could have easily been avoided by asking questions first. The claim somebody else made about adding an extra zero or euros is similarly ridiculous. Ebay gives you a confirmation screen and a currency conversion for your bid before you confirm. From the buyer's perspective, I think easy bid retractions allow for too much fraud and manipulation and also allows unscrupulous buyers and sellers to get insight into what a legitimate bidder is willing to pay for an item. That hurts buyers and should never be allowed. If you don't know what you're bidding on, don't bid, it's really as simple as that.

 

Well, you are wrong. This is a very valid reason and one of the valid reasons Ebay allows.

[bojay1997]

It's your opinion bojay, but the fact that he changed the description lends buyers to be able to withdraw bids. Like I said, I retracted the bid and then rebid because I still think they had some value in them. Just not what I originally was going to pay for them. And there is no EASY bid retractions anymore. It's actually rather difficult to retract a bid or even consider doing so because it's not available on the item listing. I had to go into the help section and do a search on it. So I asked the question to the seller and he gave me a vague answer. I would have retracted the bid afterwards since he wasn't willing to do the work and answer my question confidently. I gave him two boxes to just unflatten and see if there were top and bottom flaps inside and he refused to do it. So the result of me retracting the bid would have been the same. Some sellers don't answer questions at all, or wait until the last minute to answer, sort of like this guy did. I asked the question 2 days prior and he took that long to give me the lame answer he did. So I made my judgment ahead of time because he wouldn't answer me. You never retracted a bid, that's great. But there is a need for it sometimes. Yes, people used to abuse it back in the day, putting in a bid, then pulling out to see what the next high bidder was willing to go to and then rebidding just enough to beat him or not bid at all. Sellers used to abuse it too with shill bidding with 2nd accounts or have friends bid up the items and retract. But for the most part, I think retraction of bids do not happen that often anymore.

 

Phil

 

Again, you have provided no valid basis for retracting the bid in my opinion. There is no reason you had to bid on the items. If he didn't answer you or gave you a vague or incomplete response, you simply could have not bid and moved on. I am very hard on sellers here and elsewhere because I believe Ebay rightly favors the buyer in most situations, but bid retractions are one area where I think Ebay gets it plain wrong. The only way Ebay should ever let anyone retract a bid is like I said if the seller has engaged in actual fraud or misrepresentation. That's not what happened here. You thought you found something great and couldn't be bothered to wait to get a response to your questions. As far as I'm concerned, you took the risk and should have to live with it. It's nice that Ebay allowed you to get out of your commitment, but if I was a seller, I would bar you from my auctions because you can't be trusted to follow through on a binding commitment.

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

Again, you have provided no valid basis for retracting the bid in my opinion. There is no reason you had to bid on the items. If he didn't answer you or gave you a vague or incomplete response, you simply could have not bid and moved on. I am very hard on sellers here and elsewhere because I believe Ebay rightly favors the buyer in most situations, but bid retractions are one area where I think Ebay gets it plain wrong. The only way Ebay should ever let anyone retract a bid is like I said if the seller has engaged in actual fraud or misrepresentation. That's not what happened here. You thought you found something great and couldn't be bothered to wait to get a response to your questions. As far as I'm concerned, you took the risk and should have to live with it. It's nice that Ebay allowed you to get out of your commitment, but if I was a seller, I would bar you from my auctions because you can't be trusted to follow through on a binding commitment.

 

I agree, I have always been a strong believer in BUYER BEWARE. But, if I commit to buy something then I stand buy it, if I have been deliberately cheated than I will fight for my right as a buyer, but I am careful going in and sometimes I know I am taking a chance and I have to live with the result.

[Philflound]

Oh, well. Then let him block me as a buyer. It's no biggie. I don't block people who retract bids when I do decide to auction something. Maybe I should take your advice and do it though.

 

Phil

[Philflound]

Wow that auction went for almost $400. Too bad for the buyer. Guess they are happy with cut boxes.

[Albert]

Wow that auction went for almost $400. Too bad for the buyer. Guess they are happy with cut boxes.

 

Will be interesting to check this seller's feedback in the near future to see if they get a negative or neutral.

 

..Al

[Atari_Bill]

Not worth anywhere near that in the condition they are in. I've never retracted a bid on ebay before and typically would never condone it, but Philfound was well within his rights to do so in this case. I have no proof, but the seller seems to be purposely vague in the listing. I refuse to believe they are so nieve that they can't understand how a box works. This was a deceptive listing that only came to light when people called them on it.

[Philflound]

Finally discovered who got the winning bid. And I think he's taking a bath on this one. He's auctioning the boxes in smaller lots, and the bids are only a couple bucks each. Here's one.

 

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 110996905035

[Atari_Bill]

Finally discovered who got the winning bid. And I think he's taking a bath on this one. He's auctioning the boxes in smaller lots, and the bids are only a couple bucks each. Here's one.

 

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 110996905035

 

I saw that he gave good feedback to the original owner. I couldn't beleive he was happy to get them at that price! There were some nice boxes in that lot, but they're nothing more than art now with the ends cut off. Sad.

[Philflound]

I wish Ebay didn't change the bidders to anonymous. I would have been contacting people and warning them that these were not full boxes. Oh, well.

 

Phil

[Albert]

I wish Ebay didn't change the bidders to anonymous. I would have been contacting people and warning them that these were not full boxes. Oh, well.

 

Yeah, eBay has thrown up tons of roadblocks over the years to prevent eBay users from easily contacting one another. They are doing everything they can to try and prevent people from making side deals outside of eBay. And when you do send other eBay users messages within eBay's system, they scan the messages for email addresses and keywords to see if you're trying to make payment in some other fashion than eBay wants. I've run into this before and have had to rework my message so it would go through.

 

..Al