Quick Question, Booting Mega with Teradesk and NVDI

[Atari8guy]

So I have a 4MB Mega St with an UltraSatan and I was booting with TOS 1.4 and Teradesk and everything booted fine. As soon as I installed NVDI it now checks for a disk in the A:drive while loading Teradesk? (The DESKTOP.PRG title bar is present) Since there isn't one there it gives me a "Retry/Cancel" option, which I cancel and then everything works fine. It's a minor nucense but is this normal behaviour? I'd like to skip that and have it boot right to the desktop as used to. Is there a config file or something?

 

Versions:

Teradesk 4.04

NVDI 2.51

 

Thanks,

[Zogging Hell]

I can't remember whether NVDI 2.5 has a version of GDOS built in (iirc it is the old GDOS without the scalable fonts). Is Teradesk looking for some fonts from somewhere by any chance, which only happens when NVDI and GDOS are active. If Teradesk has something set up for different fonts in windows or something (I haven't used it for yonks so this is a guess it can actually do that), then might be the place to start. Either that or NVDI is looking in the wrong place for fonts. Check drive C for a config file for NVDI, Teradesk or GDOS. How did you install NVDI? From floppy or did you just copy it across?

[Atari8guy]

I installed in from floppy, I couldn't find any references to the A: drive in the config files, but I'll look more closely. Would NVDI change my basic Teradesk setup by specifying fonts? It worked fine before NVDI...though admittedly the font is now different.

[jens]

Nvdi will change the system font, but not any other programs' setups.

Could you by accident have saved Teradesks deskinfo while having an A: window opened?

[Atari8guy]

I thought about that (first thing I thought actually), so as such I saved the desktop again with it 100% closed just to be sure. No dice. I'm considering re-installing Teradesk as the next step.

[Atari8guy]

I'm totally baffled by this now. When I boot without auto starting Teradesk, its fine...regular TOS no access to A:Drive. If I manually start Teradesk it wants to have something in A. If I delete Teradesk and re-install it, same behaviour. But on Steem and before I installed NVDI no issues.

 

My gut tells me this is something really simple....but damned if I can figure it out.

[Atari8guy]

So I set up a brand new card with my Ultrasatan and started again. Same issue, both fine by themselves, but together it looks to the A:/Drive.

 

No idea why, I guess its only a minor thing, but the logic of it is just bugging me.

[atarian1]

Hmm. Did you install NVDI first before Teradesk? The program loading order in the AUTO folder matters. NVDI should load first before Teradesk.

[Atari8guy]

Yes I did.

[Zogging Hell]

Sounds like Teradesk is the problem. Maybe it's looking for a background picture?

[+DarkLord]

Hmm, didn't think Teradesk could do background pictures - one of its (very) few failings.

 

(depending on who you ask)

[Atari8guy]

It's definitely not looking for an image file. I think Teradesk only does that with an add on, but since I run this in Monochrome for word processing there wouldn't be a point. I think I might just drop Teradesk - WordPerfect seems to crash regularly when combined with it anyways (though I've no idea of the cause). I might try version 3 of Teradesk, if I could find it.

[Zogging Hell]

There are plenty of alternatives if you don't want up to date. Gemini, Thing, Kaosdesk, Neodesk are all quite nice in their own ways. Jinnee is even nicer but a tad OTT for what you're after..

[+DarkLord]

NeoDesk/Geneva and Jinnee/MagiC are really super combo's. and even manage to

run reasonably fast on a stock ST.

 

Both combinations have a lot of power and features.

[Tillek]

I had trouble getting Jinnee to work on my Falcon... Finally just decided to dump it. It would install fine, and load fine... but as soon as I clicked something (or the 2nd click on something) it would give me 2 bombs and crash. I even went so far as to have nothing loaded (accessories or other auto folder programs, just using stock TOS 4.04) and still the same thing. I just ended up giving up. Going to have to try to find something else.

[Zogging Hell]

I think Jinnee works best with Magic although it will work with Mint as well. I'm not sure it works on a single TOS system as it needs some libraries in Magic (although I could be wrong). Jinnee was easily the best desktop I used on the Atari and the combination of that and Magic were way better than anything PCs or Macs could offer at the time.

[Christos]

I am not really sure it's teradesk that's causing the issue. NVDI installs also some cpx and desk accessories. Those could be the issues.

[Atari8guy]

I agree it may not be Teradesk. What confuses me, is I can only replicate the problem when both NVDI and Teradesk are installed. Either one by its lonesome is fine. And it doesn't happen on Steem. I may try it on my STe, just to see, but I think it's not that big an issue as I mostly use the Mega as a dedicated Word Processor, makes Teradesk simply a nice to have as opposed to a need. But one never knows how my usage may change in the future.....