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#1 nanochess OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 8:51 AM

Hi everybody.
 
For years I've wondered why one of my favorite games got a so bad adaptation to Atari 2600, but it was because of limitations or because of lazy programmers?
 
So I wanted to do a full-fledged game as allowed by my programming abilities and as far as I could push the hardware.
 
I've decided to stay inside the 4K-limit and also I intend to not "abuse" of flicker.
 
So here it is a preview version I've programmed since last week, bug-ridden, some features lacking (like tune up difficulty) and still no collision with enemies or bullets :), the only way to lose a life currently is by fuel running out. Otherwise than that it is very close to my idea :D
 
Enjoy it!
 
Feel free to comment about it. Another thing, I only have tested with Z26 and I don't have tested it in real hardware, so surely it can fail miserably.

You now can reserve your cartridge/box copy http://atariage.com/...pace-raid-2600/
Edit 9: latest 8K NTSC/PAL version in post #113 (Nov/21/2013) http://atariage.com/...-5#entry2871420
Edit 8: older 8K NTSC/PAL version in post #108 (Nov/09/2013) http://atariage.com/...-5#entry2863278
Edit 7: older 8K NTSC/PAL version in post #93 (Oct/28/2013) http://atariage.com/...-4#entry2855575
Edit 6: older NTSC/PAL version in post #80 (Oct/12/2013) http://atariage.com/...-4#entry2846467
Edit 5: older PAL60 version in post #68 (Oct/06/2013) http://atariage.com/...-3#entry2842700 
Edit 4: older NTSC/PAL version in post #63 (Oct/05/2013) http://atariage.com/...-3#entry2842275
Edit 3: older NTSC/PAL version in post #55 (Oct/05/2013) http://atariage.com/...-3#entry2841972
Edit 2: older NTSC/PAL version in post #38 (Oct/03/2013)
Edit: older NTSC version in post #12 and PAL in post #19

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#2 iesposta OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 9:21 AM

Please DO flicker for the barriers screens. They do not look like screens.
In all my imagining how to do this, I never thought of something this good!
Notice how someone rants about "the 2600 can not do isometric well" and then Zaxxon and Q*Bert get made?

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 9:23 AM

Nice start!

 

 



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 9:29 AM

Shadows to judge the height would be very helpful.



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 9:55 AM

That's an excellent start - keep up the good work!



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 10:44 AM

Very, very cool! Love the 3D perspective. Great arcade sounds. Has an awesome early 1980s feel to it.



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 1:25 PM

Please DO flicker for the barriers screens. They do not look like screens.
In all my imagining how to do this, I never thought of something this good!
Notice how someone rants about "the 2600 can not do isometric well" and then Zaxxon and Q*Bert get made?

 

What are the barriers screens? Thanks for your kind words.

 

Nice start!

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Shadows to judge the height would be very helpful.

 

True! I forgot completely the shadows for the tracking missile and the big robot.

 

That's an excellent start - keep up the good work!

 

Very much appreciated! I hope to finish most of it this week.

 

Very, very cool! Love the 3D perspective. Great arcade sounds. Has an awesome early 1980s feel to it.

 

I passed Yesterday several hours testing sounds combinations until my ears were satisfied, I'm glad you liked the result!

 

Actually I have around 512 bytes free, after collision implementation I hope to optimize it and I've a small list of enhancements I want to do :)

 

BTW if someone could test in real hardware that could save me some time ;)



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 1:39 PM

For some reason I cannot take screen captures with Z26 and my current Spanish keyboard, if someone can put here some nice screenshots I would appreciate it :)



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 1:45 PM

Here you go.

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 3:33 PM

Barriers / screens

This thing.

 

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 4:43 PM

I see nothing but goodness here.



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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 8:27 PM

Barriers / screens

This thing.

 

 

I see! I've done something about that :)

 

Well guys, here is another version I've crafted this afternoon :D, now player explodes when touches enemies or bullets.

 

Also I've polished various minor details and solved a handful of bugs. There is now difficulty level selection (using switch for player 1, easy and hard, in hard the enemies shoot more often) and reset button support. 8)

 

This is closer to a final version, I've less than 100 bytes free.

 

I'll appreciate greatly if someone can test in real hardware. I'll do myself this test but I need to build some hardware and dismount a cartridge, and this takes some time :)

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Posted Tue Oct 1, 2013 10:16 PM

This looks fantastic.  If there is a PAL version I could test that on a real Jr for you. :)



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 1:42 AM

Looks and plays nice :)

Maybe you could trigger HMOVE every line and then get rid of the enemy's plane ghosts and the twiggling dots?

Takes some getting used to match the plane's height but I guess that's the point of the game :)



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 2:00 AM

Well done, Nanochess!

 

Is it possible to make the black levels more galaxy like?

 

Planets and asteroids (like you did with the graphics in the blue fortress levels) instead of the white dotted lines.

 

Perhaps a different title?

http://www.atarimani...raid_18973.html

 

Zonnax or something like that.

 

8)



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 2:02 AM

Actually I meant shadows in the initial scenario. This reminds me too much at my trouble (I hated that scenario ;)) with the original "Zaxxon". Even though there was a height indicator.

 

Also, when switching to the surface, the objects and the lines do not move in sync. This looks like either the objects or the lines are floating on the surface.

 

Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 6:17 AM

This has great potential as played on Stella.  I agree with everyone's comments regarding 'shadows' in the space section.  Personally, I'd prefer the space section to be scrapped as is and just make it another surface.  You could keep it black and make out like your flying over the surface of the Deathstar a la Star Wars!



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 7:14 AM

My suggestion is make 2 heights, up (for hit airplanes) and down to destroy things in the floor. So you don't need to worry about intermediate heights, if you press up, you know you're in the airplane area.



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 7:55 AM

This looks fantastic.  If there is a PAL version I could test that on a real Jr for you. :)

 

Here you go :)

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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 8:04 AM

Looks and plays nice :)

Maybe you could trigger HMOVE every line and then get rid of the enemy's plane ghosts and the twiggling dots?

Takes some getting used to match the plane's height but I guess that's the point of the game :)

 

Thanks! I'm very tight in the kernel area, I'll check what I can do.

 

Well done, Nanochess!

 

Is it possible to make the black levels more galaxy like?

 

Planets and asteroids (like you did with the graphics in the blue fortress levels) instead of the white dotted lines.

 

Perhaps a different title?

http://www.atarimani...raid_18973.html

 

Zonnax or something like that.

 

8)

 

I'm glad you like it! Currently I'm very constrained but I've been thinking in a kind of scrolling space background.

 

I think I'll keep Space Raid, after all the other title using it is a Taiwan cooper.

 

Actually I meant shadows in the initial scenario. This reminds me too much at my trouble (I hated that scenario ;)) with the original "Zaxxon". Even though there was a height indicator.

 

Also, when switching to the surface, the objects and the lines do not move in sync. This looks like either the objects or the lines are floating on the surface.

 

Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

 

Ah! finally I understood you. There is no much that I can do... I'll think about it.

 

This has great potential as played on Stella.  I agree with everyone's comments regarding 'shadows' in the space section.  Personally, I'd prefer the space section to be scrapped as is and just make it another surface.  You could keep it black and make out like your flying over the surface of the Deathstar a la Star Wars!

 

Thanks. I appreciate your opinion.

 

My suggestion is make 2 heights, up (for hit airplanes) and down to destroy things in the floor. So you don't need to worry about intermediate heights, if you press up, you know you're in the airplane area.

 

I think the current state is more fun than having only 2 heights.



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 8:28 AM

 

I think the current state is more fun than having only 2 heights.

Definitely. I am sure there will be a better solution for the problem.



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 8:54 AM

I think I'll keep Space Raid, after all the other title using it is a Taiwan cooper.

 

Also Rainbow Vision and Suntek used this title:

http://www.atarimani...raid_12335.html

http://www.atarimani...raid_12818.html

 

Both official releases.

 

Keep up the good work!

 

This could very well become the Zaxxon we all wanted for the VCS.

 

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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 8:58 AM

 

 

This could very well become the Zaxxon we all wanted for the VCS.

 

 

 

Indeed! Look forward to following the progress of this ambitious project.  :) 



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 9:17 AM

How about Space Raid X? Something that resembles to Zaxxon. Or 3D.

 

I would not leave the name as it is now. Else many people will miss the game, just because they will confuse it with an existing one.



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Posted Wed Oct 2, 2013 11:43 AM

Awesome work Oscar!
Thumbs up!




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