chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 i have this cart for 2 years and always look it's a fake one game play perfect but the box is not like the other homebrew game i have is there a way to tell if its a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 It is a fake 100% sure. Orignal box is not like that, look my avatar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) If its fake, the question would be where did you buy it from ? Edited November 10, 2013 by AtariBrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 i have this cart for 2 years and always look it's a fake one game play perfect but the box is not like the other homebrew game i have is there a way to tell if its a copy by curiosity, where did you get that cart? How much you paid for it? Could you take a picture of the start screen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 by curiosity, where did you get that cart? How much you paid for it? i get it from ebay for i think 90$ and maybe its more than 2 years Could you take a picture of the start screen? at least since that game was sold out and never had plan to other run i can play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Thanks. It is a rom Dumped from Original cart. Surely done from the guy who put it on the web few time ago. (David something... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcoleco Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I do wonder if I've missed an episode here... How stupid someone can be to use a convincing artwork BUT not take care of using also the same font for the name of the game at the top of the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I do wonder if I've missed an episode here... How stupid someone can be to use a convincing artwork BUT not take care of using also the same font for the name of the game at the top of the box? Simply because he took the box template from Colecoboxart and he did not notice that the box has been volontary made different to detect easly this kind of bootleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crapahute Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I do wonder if I've missed an episode here... How stupid someone can be to use a convincing artwork BUT not take care of using also the same font for the name of the game at the top of the box? The fake box was made by me and put on my site. It was deliberatly done different from the original. Not only the title is different... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 im sorry to bring back some bad memories but that's one of my favorite game on nes and on colecovision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Very fun.... Yeah.... VERY VERY FUN! you buy it from who exactly!? You can send me a PM to let me know I want to know who's the bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 if you still have a real copy im ready to buy it and ship that fake one to you that way that copy will be out forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Very fun.... Yeah.... VERY VERY FUN! you buy it from who exactly!? You can send me a PM to let me know I want to know who's the bitch i bought it on ebay if theres a way to see back the thing i buy 2 years ago tell me i 'll check and i'll be happy to give you the name of the seller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Just another bad seed planted on this earth and motivated by greed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 i hope that not to many people get fucked by this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcoleco Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The fake box was made by me and put on my site. It was deliberatly done different from the original. Not only the title is different... So the guy didn't even took time to check, just too happy to get a boxart and go with it. Well, done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Thanks. It is a rom Dumped from Original cart. Surely done from the guy who put it on the web few time ago. (David something... ) Check this Ebay auction out #171170374621. Sure looks like the same type "box" with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Check this Ebay auction out #171170374621. Sure looks like the same type "box" with it I know this seller, he's an old time CV Collector I don't think he's the one who make bootleg copies I could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcoleco Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Check this Ebay auction out #171170374621. Sure looks like the same type "box" with it This one is one of the numerous DacMan version 1.3 published by John Dondzila and at the look of it... it is legit if you ask me. No problem there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I'll cast my vote for Fernando Marin...IIRC, he was dumping tons of colecovision and A8 home-brews...then selling the original carts back on eBay for a boat load of money. This might be one of his knock-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I'll cast my vote for Fernando Marin...IIRC, he was dumping tons of colecovision and A8 home-brews...then selling the original carts back on eBay for a boat load of money. This might be one of his knock-offs. Then, that must be that guy in Argentina 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I'll cast my vote for Fernando Marin...IIRC, he was dumping tons of colecovision and A8 home-brews...then selling the original carts back on eBay for a boat load of money. This might be one of his knock-offs. That's one of the pirates, but the pirated copy that chart45 bought a couple years ago with Crapahute's box design was made by someone else IIRC... I just can't remember the ebay seller's name now seeing as it's been so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 It would be also may be interresting to see how is the PCB. May be some of you can identify the source from that. In a sens , It is funny to see "bootleg" of my game...an Homebrew ... my very first program on colecovision...my "Hello word"... lol... this world is crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcoleco Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) It would be also may be interresting to see how is the PCB. May be some of you can identify the source from that. In a sens , It is funny to see "bootleg" of my game...an Homebrew ... my very first program on colecovision...my "Hello word"... lol... this world is crazy! Welcome to the club of homebrewers! Various things do occur with our games after it's published! There might be many fake copies of my games out there, I just don't know it, but what I do know is that when we publish a ColecoVision homebrew game we just lose control over it, more so if it's a port because of copyrights law. Back in 2001, a guy made his custom DACMAN cartridge by replacing the chips into a 24KB cart with my ROM file, and then he asked me if it was ok to do so. In that case, I appreciated to know it, and honnestly for personal usage it's ok, I really like the idea that my games are being played and enjoyed. In the other hand, I saw my games being sold at outrageous prices on eBay while copies were still on production and some people screamed at me that it's too expensive... like I've control on the price of my games being sold on eBay by resellers. More my name was associated with new ColecoVision games, more I felt that some malicious guys were watching forums just to jump on occasions to make money and pretend that my games were "EXTREMELY RARE PROTOTYPE". This phenoma of eBay auctions by resellers (of fake or real copies) is poisoning the homebrew ColecoVision scene because it profits only a few (if not just one) by exploiting ColecoVision homebrewers and fans. My answer for awhile was to raise up the price of my games, going from $20 for a complete in box (DacMan in 2000) to a $30-$40 for a lose cartridge (GhostBlaster in 2009)... in the vague hope that it will discourage resellers but really they know how to exploit the homebrew scene and make profit. Not publishing ROM files became the approach used by many CV homebrewers to counter this phenomena, but ROM dumping isn't that difficult to accomplish and at the end... it's just a question of time. Edited November 11, 2013 by newcoleco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkerieSilk Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Oh Man... Do I need to check my collection for fakes... Man that sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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