RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Greetings all! I wound up getting into some Geneve emulation in MESS the other day after Michael and I had been talking about it. Anyway, I thought I'd start a support thread. I finally got the first thing besides the OS running on the Geneve a couple of days ago, and that was Advanced Basic. I tried to load and run an XB program from there, but the machine freezes. This likely has something to do with TIMODE, but I haven't been able to get any XB program to run. Moreover, I'm wondering what else is out there for the Geneve? Some reading seemed to suggest that MyWord was a Geneve editor, but I immediately was hesitant to believe it after looking at the contents of the disk, which has a file named 'FORMAT' (which would of course be problematic with MDOS's command). So what other software is there for the Geneve, and where can I find some documentation, such as an ABasic manual? Also, advice on how to run TI software on the Geneve would be greatly appreciated. I'm sorry to ask - I've been wading through whtech for days without finding any answers nor much in the way of useful documentation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Check out this group: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Geneve9640/info And you'll find a hard drive image all set up with oodles of stuff to run from a menu here: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Geneve9640/files/MdosGpl/ Gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) We should collect the most important tools for the Geneve at a location like WHTech. I already started to create a web page on WHTech some time ago: http://ftp.whtech.com/info/geneve.html (note the http access to the ftp server!) This is intended to become a helpful page for Geneve newbies, in particular those who got to know the Geneve via emulation. I have write access to WHTech so if you send me appropriate images I can upload them and complete that page. We can then store all important programs on disk images or as single TIFILES files. Edited December 14, 2013 by mizapf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thank you fellas for the pointers . Check out this group: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Geneve9640/info And you'll find a hard drive image all set up with oodles of stuff to run from a menu here: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Geneve9640/files/MdosGpl/ Gazoo Well, I just joined the Yahoo! Geneve group, and am awaiting approval. I can't wait to check out that Hard drive image and see what's on there. I'd preferably like to find some names of applications and programs, then install them onto my own drive which I've started (already has ABasic and a directory for Extended Basic programs - if I can get them to run .) We should collect the most important tools for the Geneve at a location like WHTech. I already started to create a web page on WHTech some time ago: http://ftp.whtech.com/info/geneve.html(note the http access to the ftp server!) This is intended to become a helpful page for Geneve newbies, in particular those who got to know the Geneve via emulation. I have write access to WHTech so if you send me appropriate images I can upload them and complete that page. We can then store all important programs on disk images or as single TIFILES files. That would be awesome to get this page going (interesting to see the http access, too.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thank you fellas for the pointers . Well, I just joined the Yahoo! Geneve group, and am awaiting approval. I can't wait to check out that Hard drive image and see what's on there. I'd preferably like to find some names of applications and programs, then install them onto my own drive which I've started (already has ABasic and a directory for Extended Basic programs - if I can get them to run .) Approved Sorry, ever since Yahoo changed to their current, ugly forums software, the "request to join" emails fail to arrive. The Geneve group is not meant as a replacement for WHT as was stated on the main page (which is now hidden, again thanks to the new forum software). ABASIC will run many XB programs though not all. There are two common hard drive images out there -- Beery Miller's and Gazoo's. Both have a decent set of software to start you on your way. From DOS you can load GPL, which is essentially the TI ROM and GROM set, with the ROM modified slightly to account for the different keyboard input and some other misc. changes. If you are in GPL, you need to use the keypress "SHIFT-SHIFT-CTRL" to get back out of the emulation. There are most certainly other tips and tidbits to document.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thanks Insane - good to join! I can't wait to see some more thorough documentation come about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Well, I only had success with the first of the images, MdosGpl.zip.001. The others seem to have a problem, although the first zip appears to have a complete .hd image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Well, I only had success with the first of the images, MdosGpl.zip.001. The others seem to have a problem, although the first zip appears to have a complete .hd image. Read the docs in the folder, you have to join the 3 files to get a complete image. This is due to a file size restriction of Yahoo's. There's a utility in the folder to join them. Gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 I see - I was trying to avoid the .exe since I'm running Linux. I'll give it a shot through WINE. Thanks Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Okay, got the complete image now and looking through it.... this should prove useful. Thanks again fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I see - I was trying to avoid the .exe since I'm running Linux. I'll give it a shot through WINE. Thanks Gazoo You know that you can use "cat" to join files in Linux? cat file1 file2 file3 > filecomplete (and split to do the opposite). No need for WINE. Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 You know that you can use "cat" to join files in Linux? cat file1 file2 file3 > filecomplete (and split to do the opposite). No need for WINE. Michael Cool . I will try that now, just for fun... . I just tried and got some weird results: cat MdosGpl.3.zip.001 MdosGpl.3.zip.002 MdosGpl.3.zip.003 > MdosGpl.zip does not work, and cat MdosGpl.3.zip.001 MdosGpl.3.zip.002 MdosGpl.3.zip.003 MdosGpl.zip gives an erroneous output while screwing up the fonts of my MATE terminal . I'm probably doing something wrong though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) $ cat MdosGpl.zip.001 MdosGpl.zip.002 MdosGpl.zip.003 > mdos.zip $ unzip -t mdos.zip Archive: mdos.zip testing: MdosGpl.hd OK No errors detected in compressed data of mdos.zip. $ unzip mdos.zip Archive: mdos.zip inflating: MdosGpl.hd $ cat is the command for "catenation"; it can be "abused" to output data from text files (and thus plays a role like TYPE in MSDOS), but indeed it copies the contents of the argument files to stdout, one after another, without any change. So you want to redirect stdout to a file, and hence I'm using mdos.zip in this example. Works for me without any problem. So your "does not work" should have worked; you did not say why it did not for you. Edited December 14, 2013 by mizapf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) BTW, you can create your custom HD with TIImageTool, open some of these prepared other HDs, and copy parts from there to your own drive. Mark some files or directories, press CTRL-C, paste them with CTRL-V into your new image. Oh, and pay attention (and everyone using this HD image)! This is an outdated MESS HD format. You can convert it in TIImageTool to the new version 5. I recommend that someone replaces the MdosGpl files with new ones pretty soon. One of the most notable features of the CHDv5 format is that it produces much smaller images since it does not store tracks that are filled with zeros. (That is, if the image is full, it will of course not be smaller.) Edited December 15, 2013 by mizapf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 So your "does not work" should have worked; you did not say why it did not for you. Well, it would have helped if I had entered the file names in correctly . It works perfectly when you use the right file names . Cool command... BTW, you can create your custom HD with TIImageTool, open some of these prepared other HDs, and copy parts from there to your own drive. Mark some files or directories, press CTRL-C, paste them with CTRL-V into your new image. Oh, and pay attention (and everyone using this HD image)! This is an outdated MESS HD format. You can convert it in TIImageTool to the new version 5. I recommend that someone replaces the MdosGpl files with new ones pretty soon. One of the most notable features of the CHDv5 format is that it produces much smaller images since it does not store tracks that are filled with zeros. (That is, if the image is full, it will of course not be smaller.) Adding the contents I wanted to keep into my new HD image (the one you suggested I make ) is exactly what I was planning on doing. I got the image converted to CHDv5. @Tim: I went ahead and created a CHDv5 zip: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/95921622/MdosGpl.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Interestingly, the MdosGpl system gets caught in a recursive loop on boot. At least one path that I see in the AUTOEXEC is not valid - I'll play around with it some more though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 TIImageTool says that there are some files on the HD image that are suspiciously not OK. Maybe some of them will run nevertheless, but if you look at XCOPY the last sector is filled with e5. This need not be an issue because it means that the file is simply one sector too long. For all reported files one should check whether the problem is caused by the tail of the file and not in between. If this is OK for all, I will upload a copy of that hard disk image to WHTech and put a link on said HTML file. ... Robert, concerning the tools in Linux, there is far more to be discovered, and although I've been using it for the last 15 years I suppose I did not even find out all goodies. Ever exploited all features of the "find" command? For instance, find all directories in a subtree and change their permissions? Or use a script to turn all file names to lowercase (since the Windows users still don't know about case sensitivity in other worlds). Or take your list of photographs, throw away some of them, and renumber all files contiguously. All things that can be done in a few lines of script. Also, if you want to clip off the last 256 bytes of the file, you can use split and tell it to create pieces of (length-256). And more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Interestingly, the MdosGpl system gets caught in a recursive loop on boot. At least one path that I see in the AUTOEXEC is not valid - I'll play around with it some more though. Are you booting from the Hard drive image? The AUTOEXEC is set up for that. In order to preload the GPL files, the GPLTEST file returns a 'Y' if GPL has been loaded. Else it loads the GPL files through the GPLINIT series of files. Your loop may be there if you're failing to load the GPL files. Is that where you're getting stuck? Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Are you booting from the Hard drive image? The AUTOEXEC is set up for that. In order to preload the GPL files, the GPLTEST file returns a 'Y' if GPL has been loaded. Else it loads the GPL files through the GPLINIT series of files. Your loop may be there if you're failing to load the GPL files. Is that where you're getting stuck? Gazoo It gets stuck when it tries to load Disk Manager 1000. GPL pages seem to load okay. I tried to make a couple of changes to the AUTOEXEC and see if I could remove loading Disk Manager 1000, but made things worse. It's a fairly sophisticated AUTOEXEC. TIImageTool says that there are some files on the HD image that are suspiciously not OK. Maybe some of them will run nevertheless, but if you look at XCOPY the last sector is filled with e5. This need not be an issue because it means that the file is simply one sector too long. For all reported files one should check whether the problem is caused by the tail of the file and not in between. If this is OK for all, I will upload a copy of that hard disk image to WHTech and put a link on said HTML file. ... Robert, concerning the tools in Linux, there is far more to be discovered, and although I've been using it for the last 15 years I suppose I did not even find out all goodies. Ever exploited all features of the "find" command? For instance, find all directories in a subtree and change their permissions? Or use a script to turn all file names to lowercase (since the Windows users still don't know about case sensitivity in other worlds). Or take your list of photographs, throw away some of them, and renumber all files contiguously. All things that can be done in a few lines of script. Also, if you want to clip off the last 256 bytes of the file, you can use split and tell it to create pieces of (length-256). And more. I have been really amazed with what 'find' can do, and am always learning new things that it can do. I will probably be learning Linux for the rest of my life . About the hard disk image and corrupt files. I went ahead and did a scan myself, and found over 50 files that were questionable. But, like you said, XCOPY had the E5s at the end of the document. FAST and FORMATIS in DSK1. are small files with E5s at the end but mostly 00s for the rest of the file, so they are definitely suspect. I didn't check all 65 files (some of them shouldn't effect booting/performance though.) I'm attaching a log of the scan from TIImageTool as well as the list of files that the scan regarded as potential problems. Log_&_files.zip Edited December 15, 2013 by RobertLM78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 It gets stuck when it tries to load Disk Manager 1000. GPL pages seem to load okay. I tried to make a couple of changes to the AUTOEXEC and see if I could remove loading Disk Manager 1000, but made things worse. It's a fairly sophisticated AUTOEXEC. I have been really amazed with what 'find' can do, and am always learning new things that it can do. I will probably be learning Linux for the rest of my life . About the hard disk image and corrupt files. I went ahead and did a scan myself, and found over 50 files that were questionable. But, like you said, XCOPY had the E5s at the end of the document. FAST and FORMATIS in DSK1. are small files with E5s at the end but mostly 00s for the rest of the file, so they are definitely suspect. I didn't check all 65 files (some of them shouldn't effect booting/performance though.) I'm attaching a log of the scan from TIImageTool as well as the list of files that the scan regarded as potential problems. Does everything else on the menu other than DM1000 work ok? I have no trouble loading DM1000 by selecting 'Y' from the menu. Just checked the other files you mentioned. FAST is an old program that sets Turbo mode, it really doesn't have any effect anymore. FORMATIS is the second file in the chain of FORMATIT. The program is the floppy disk formatter selected by 'N' from the menu. XCOPY works ok, too. Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Heya Gazoo, thanks for the reply Does everything else on the menu other than DM1000 work ok? I have no trouble loading DM1000 by selecting 'Y' from the menu. Just checked the other files you mentioned. FAST is an old program that sets Turbo mode, it really doesn't have any effect anymore. FORMATIS is the second file in the chain of FORMATIT. The program is the floppy disk formatter selected by 'N' from the menu. XCOPY works ok, too. Gazoo I can't even get to the menu yet ... even in spite of the changes I made to AUTOEXEC - although I'm undoubtedly doing something wrong there. It seems like the drive should work 'out of the box'. Are you trying this image in MESS? Are you able to get the to menu with it? Maybe there's something wrong with my image....??? Looking over the AUTOEXEC again now, it appears that there are references to files on G:\ - what's up with that? I know G:\ would likely be the letter assigned to a third disk, but this is one disk... MODE B5 MODE F5 ECHO OFF G:VID2 DISK1 OFF E:\GPLTEST IF %1==Y GOTO START CLS MODE F16 VER ECHO Loading GPL pages ... E:\INITGPL :START G:TURBO ON G:VID2 IBMGRF ON :DISPLAY G:\DISPLAY G:\BEEP G: CD .. F: CD .. CD .. E: CD .. CD .. G:GETKEY G:\BEEP MODE 80 CLS MODE B5 MODE F16 IF %1==A GOTO GENEVEMODE IF %1==B GPL IF %1==C GPL E:\GRAM.M2.MULTIPLAN IF %1==D GPL E:\GRAM.T1.TI-EXB110 IF %1==E GPL E:\XB IF %1==F GPL G:\SUPERXB IF %1==G GPL E:\RXB IF %1==H GPL E:\EA IF %1==I GOTO ASSEMBLER IF %1==J GOTO LINKER IF %1==K GOTO FUNLWEB IF %1==L GOTO DSKU IF %1==M G:DM E: IF %1==N GOTO FORMATTER IF %1==O GOTO MDM5 IF %1==P GOTO MYWORD IF %1==Q GOTO MYART IF %1==R G:U.BASIC IF %1==S GOTO EDUCART IF %1==T GOTO GAMES IF %1==U GOTO TIARTIST IF %1==V QDE IF %1==W GOTO FX IF %1==X E:\FWB.DKA IF %1==Y GOTO DM1000 IF %1==Z E:\GPROGS.GDM2K IF %1==1 GPL G:\U.BOOTXB IF %1==2 E:\GPROGS.MEMTEST IF %1==3 G:\U.GIF IF %1==4 GOTO MCOPY IF %1==5 GOTO ARCHIVER IF %1==6 E:\U.SECTOR1 IF %1==7 GOTO SCRENSAV IF %1==8 GOTO SCREN1 IF %1==9 GOTO SCREN3 IF %1==0 GOTO REBOOT GOTO DISPLAY :GENEVEMODE G: &TIOFF &AUTOEXEC :RESET E: &AUTOEXEC :SCRENSAV G:U.SCRENSAV GOTO RESET :REBOOT MODE B2 MODE F2 G: PFX CURRENT /20 G:RESET GOTO RESET :FORMATTER VER ECHO ECHO Loading Floppy Disk Formatter ... G:EXEC G:U.FORMATIT/R GOTO RESET :ASSEMBLER VER ECHO ECHO Loading Rag Assembler ... G:EXEC G:U.RAGA GOTO RESET :LINKER VER ECHO ECHO Loading Rag Linker ... G:EXEC G:U.RAGL GOTO RESET :FUNLWEB VER ECHO ECHO Loading Funnelweb ... G:EXEC HDS1.FWB.FW GOTO RESET :DSKU VER ECHO ECHO Loading Disk Utilities v4.2 ... G:EXEC G:FWB.DU/R GOTO RESET :DM1000 VER ECHO ECHO Loading Disk Manager 1000 ... G:EXEC G:FWB.MG GOTO RESET :ARCHIVER VER ECHO ECHO Loading Archiver v4.0g ... G:TURBO OFF G:EXEC G:FWB.AC/R GOTO RESET :SCREN1 CLS G:EXEC G:LINES GOTO RESET :DIRMGR VER ECHO IBMGRF OFF ECHO ECHO Loading Directory Manager ... ECHO OFF G:U.DM E: ECHO OFF IBMGRF ON GOTO RESET :TIARTIST VER ECHO ECHO Loading Ti Artist ... G:EXEC HDS1.A.ARTIST1 GOTO RESET :SCREN3 G:EXEC G:BOXES GOTO RESET :FX VER ECHO ECHO Loading Sound FX ... G:EXEC G:U.FX GOTO RESET :DM2K MODE 40 VER ECHO ECHO Loading Disk Manager 2000 ... E:\GPROGS\GDM2K CLS MODE 80 GOTO RESET :MDM5 VER ECHO ECHO Loading Myarc Disk Manager 5 ... G:EXEC HDS1.MDM5.MDM5 /R GOTO RESET :MCOPY VER ECHO ECHO Loading M-Copy ... G:EXEC G:U.M-COPY/R GOTO RESET :MYWORD VER ECHO ECHO Loading My-Word v1.21 ... G:EXEC G:U.MW GOTO RESET :MYART VER ECHO ECHO Loading My-Art v1.4 ... G: CD U G:\U.MYART GOTO RESET :GAMES :GAMES1 G: CLS MODE F5 ECHO ͻ ECHO Tony's Game Menu ECHO Ķ ECHO A for Jawbreaker ECHO B for Blasto ECHO C for Munchman ECHO D for Burgertime ECHO E for TI Invaders ECHO F for Pacman ECHO G for Hangman ECHO H for Video Chess ECHO I for Othello ECHO J for Pole Position ECHO K for Parsec ECHO L for Hopper ECHO M for Ambulance ECHO N for Star Trek ECHO O for Hunt the Wumpus ECHO P for Blackjack & Poker ECHO Q for E.T. ECHO R for Ms. Pacman ECHO 1 for return to Main Menu ECHO ͼ MODE F16 G:\BEEP GETKEY G:\BEEP CLS IF %1==A GPL E:\G.JAWBREAKR IF %1==B GPL E:\G.BLASTO IF %1==C GPL E:\G.MUNCHMAN IF %1==D GPL E:\G.BURGRTIME IF %1==E GPL E:\G.INVADERS IF %1==F GPL E:\G.PACMAN IF %1==G GPL E:\G.HANGMAN IF %1==H GPL E:\G.VIDEOCHES IF %1==I GPL E:\G.OTHELLO IF %1==J GPL E:\G.POLEPOS IF %1==K GPL E:\G.PARSEC IF %1==L GPL E:\G.HOPPER IF %1==M GPL E:\G.AMBULANCE IF %1==N GPL E:\G.STARTREK IF %1==O GPL E:\G.HUNTWUMPS IF %1==P GPL E:\G.BLKJKPOKR IF %1==Q GPL E:\DISNEY.ET IF %1==R GPL E:\G.MSPACMAN IF %1==1 GOTO RESET GOTO GAMES1 :EDUCART :EDUCART1 G: CLS MODE F5 MODE 90 ECHO ͻ ECHO Educational Cartridges Menu ECHO Ķ ECHO A for Addition ECHO B for Addition & Subtraction 1 ECHO C for Addition & Subtraction 2 ECHO D for Addition & Subtraction 3 ECHO E for Alien Addition ECHO F for Alligator Mix ECHO G for Beginning Grammar ECHO H for Computer Math Games 2 ECHO I for Computer Math Games 3 ECHO J for Computer Math Games 6 ECHO K for Decimals ECHO L for Decimals 1 ECHO M for Decimals 2 ECHO N for Demolition Division ECHO O for Division ECHO P for Division 1 ECHO Q for Dragon Mix ECHO R for Early Learning Fun ECHO S for Early Reading ECHO Ķ ECHO SPACE BAR for More - 1 to Quit ECHO ͼ MODE F16 G:\BEEP GETKEY G:\BEEP CLS MODE 80 IF %1==1 GOTO RESET IF %1==A GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ADDITION IF %1==B GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ADD&SUB_1 IF %1==C GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ADD&SUB_2 IF %1==D GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ADD&SUB_3 IF %1==E GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ALIEN-ADD IF %1==F GPL E:\GRAM.AB.ALLIGATOR IF %1==G GPL E:\GRAM.AB.BEGIN-GRA IF %1==H GPL E:\GRAM.C.COM-M-G_2 IF %1==I GPL E:\GRAM.C.COM-M-G_3 IF %1==J GPL E:\GRAM.C.COM-M-G_6 IF %1==K GPL E:\GRAM.D.DECIMAL IF %1==L GPL E:\GRAM.D.DECIMAL_1 IF %1==M GPL E:\GRAM.D.DECIMAL_2 IF %1==N GPL E:\GRAM.D.DEMOLITIO IF %1==O GPL E:\GRAM.D.DIVISIO IF %1==P GPL E:\GRAM.D.DIVISIO_1 IF %1==Q GPL E:\GRAM.D.DRAGON-MI IF %1==R GPL E:\GRAM.EG.ERLYLNGFN IF %1==S GPL E:\GRAM.EG.EARLYREAD CLS MODE F5 MODE 90 ECHO ͻ ECHO Educational Cartridges Menu ECHO Ķ ECHO A for Equations ECHO B for Fractions ECHO C for Integers ECHO D for Laws of Arithmatic ECHO E for Measurements ECHO F for Minus Mission ECHO G for Meteor Multiplication ECHO H for Mighty Multiplication 1 ECHO I for Mighty Multiplication 2 ECHO J for Multiplication ECHO K for Number Bowling ECHO L for Number Magic ECHO M for Number Readiness ECHO N for Numeration 1 ECHO O for Numeration 2 ECHO P for Percents ECHO Q for Picture Parts ECHO R for Pyramid Puzzler ECHO S for Reading Adventures ECHO Ķ ECHO SPACE BAR for More - 1 to Quit ECHO ͼ MODE F16 G:\BEEP GETKEY G:\BEEP CLS MODE 80 IF %1==1 GOTO RESET IF %1==A GPL E:\GRAM.EG.EQUATIONS IF %1==B GPL E:\GRAM.EG.FRACTIONS IF %1==C GPL E:\GRAM.HL.INTEGERS IF %1==D GPL E:\GRAM.HL.LAWS-ARIT IF %1==E GPL E:\GRAM.M1.MEASUREME IF %1==F GPL E:\GRAM.M1.MINUS-MIS IF %1==G GPL E:\GRAM.M1.METEOR-M IF %1==H GPL E:\GRAM.M2.MULTIPL_1 IF %1==I GPL E:\GRAM.M2.MULTIPL_2 IF %1==J GPL E:\GRAM.M2.MULTIPLI IF %1==K GPL E:\GRAM.NO.NUMBERBOW IF %1==L GPL E:\GRAM.NO.NUMBERMAGC IF %1==M GPL E:\GRAM.NO.NUMBERREA IF %1==N GPL E:\GRAM.NO.NUMERAT_1 IF %1==O GPL E:\GRAM.NO.NUMERAT_2 IF %1==P GPL E:\GRAM.PQ.PERCENTS IF %1==Q GPL E:\GRAM.PQ.PICTUREPA IF %1==R GPL E:\GRAM.PQ.PYRAMIDPU IF %1==S GPL E:\GRAM.R1.READADV CLS MODE F5 MODE 90 ECHO ͻ ECHO Educational Cartridges Menu ECHO Ķ ECHO A for Reading Cheers ECHO B for Reading Flight ECHO C for Reading On ECHO D for Reading Power ECHO E for Reading Rainbow ECHO F for Reading Rally ECHO G for Reading Roundup ECHO H for Reading Trail ECHO I for Reading Wonders ECHO J for Scholastic Spelling 3 ECHO K for Scholastic Spelling 4 ECHO L for Scholastic Spelling 5 ECHO M for Scholastic Spelling 6 ECHO N for Space Journey ECHO O for Star Maze ECHO P for Subtraction ECHO Q for Word Invasion ECHO R for Word Radar ECHO ECHO Ķ ECHO SPACE BAR for more - 1 to Quit ECHO ͼ MODE F16 G:\BEEP G:\GETKEY G:\BEEP CLS MODE 80 IF %1==1 GOTO RESET IF %1==A GPL E:\GRAM.R1.READCHEER IF %1==B GPL E:\GRAM.R1.READFLI IF %1==C GPL E:\GRAM.R1.READON IF %1==D GPL E:\GRAM.R1.READPOWER IF %1==E GPL E:\GRAM.R2.READRAIN IF %1==F GPL E:\GRAM.R2.READRALLY IF %1==G GPL E:\GRAM.R2.READROUND IF %1==H GPL E:\GRAM.R2.READTRAIL IF %1==I GPL E:\GRAM.R2.READWOND IF %1==J GPL E:\GRAM.S1.SCHSPELL3 IF %1==K GPL E:\GRAM.S1.SCHSPELL4 IF %1==L GPL E:\GRAM.S1.SCHSPELL5 IF %1==M GPL E:\GRAM.S1.SCHSPELL6 IF %1==N GPL E:\GRAM.S2.SPACEJOUR IF %1==O GPL E:\GRAM.S2.STAR-MAZE IF %1==P GPL E:\GRAM.S2.SUBTRACTN IF %1==Q GPL E:\GRAM.UZ.WORDINVAS IF %1==R GPL E:\GRAM.UZ.WORDRADAR CLS GOTO EDUCART1 :END Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Heya Gazoo, thanks for the reply I can't even get to the menu yet ... even in spite of the changes I made to AUTOEXEC - although I'm undoubtedly doing something wrong there. It seems like the drive should work 'out of the box'. Are you trying this image in MESS? Are you able to get the to menu with it? Maybe there's something wrong with my image....??? Looking over the AUTOEXEC again now, it appears that there are references to files on G:\ - what's up with that? I know G:\ would likely be the letter assigned to a third disk, but this is one disk... Ok, I see the problem you're having. 'G:' is a 2 meg ramdisk in PEB slot 4. Set it up for CRU >1400 in the Dip Switches. Format it with FORM3MEG in the E:\U. directory. Copy all the files from the E:\DSK6. directory to the G: directory, including sub directories 'A', 'FWB', and 'U'. You should have a working MDOS system with embedded GPL now. The main menu looks like this: Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ok, I see the problem you're having. 'G:' is a 2 meg ramdisk in PEB slot 4. Set it up for CRU >1400 in the Dip Switches. Format it with FORM3MEG in the E:\U. directory. Copy all the files from the E:\DSK6. directory to the G: directory, including sub directories 'A', 'FWB', and 'U'. You should have a working MDOS system with embedded GPL now. Thank you Gazoo - I think we are really close now to getting it running. I can't seem to get the ramdisk formatted however . I've put the horizon in slot 4, and set it to be 2 megs, at >1400, but when I run FORM3MEG and select the option for 16 bit at >1400, I get "Error no Ramdisk at CRU >1401" (same for 8-bit at >1400, but the address starts at >1400 instead of >1401). In the DIP switch menu, I have Horizon Ram Split set to 'off' - I'm not sure if that's important or not... In spite of all these troubles, I can see why someone would abandon the TI for the Geneve - it's much more versatile . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLM78 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Update: I'm getting it to recognize the ramdisk at >1400/1, but I'm not sure how to proceed: -- -- -- -- -- It appears that I should say yes to all the above, but then it asks for a disk drive at the end, and that's where I'm not sure what to do. Another thing I couldn't help but notice: when FORM3MEG is run, the selection asks for a drive letter, so would we not want selection G. 8 BIT @>1600, or am I barking up the wrong tree? NOTE: I'm running FORM3MEG at F: as I'm using the MDosGpl.hd as the second drive on the system, so as to by-pass the AUTOEXEC on there Edited December 16, 2013 by RobertLM78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Update: I'm getting it to recognize the ramdisk at >1400/1, but I'm not sure how to proceed: -- -- -- -- -- It appears that I should say yes to all the above, but then it asks for a disk drive at the end, and that's where I'm not sure what to do. Another thing I couldn't help but notice: when FORM3MEG is run, the selection asks for a drive letter, so would we not want selection G. 8 BIT @>1600, or am I barking up the wrong tree? NOTE: I'm running FORM3MEG at F: as I'm using the MDosGpl.hd as the second drive on the system, so as to by-pass the AUTOEXEC on there Looks like you've got everything set up correctly, answer y, n, n to the Form3meg queries. And no reason to abandon the TI for a Geneve, they're both just as much fun. Expand the TI with a 9938 device, a Ramdisk, and a hard drive and you've got something very special. Gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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