Omega-TI Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 omega dreaming again? build a card with a wifi modem and rxb's sam with enough memory for stuarts browser pages. see i get it. Hmmmm, someone has been LURKING in multiple threads eh? Yeah, I have a lot of ideas, but I'm man enough to admit that I don't have the skills to design or make the hardware, let alone program the stuff myself. Yes, I was thinking about a WiFi card, but damn Sissy, I like your idea even better! Combining the WiFi modem and Super AMS type memory all on the same plug-in P-Box card is stroke of genius. How would you handle the browser, on the 512K cart? Problem is, and even I realize it, there are just too many things involved. To start off, everyone has their own projects, so it would be next to impossible to get someone to step up to design the board. Then you would have to get it built, which means people would have to commit to buy a PCB or kit, or even an assembled unit in some sort of pre-order. Then I'm sure there would be some kind of programming involved. Also, the final big two questions, which can sink any project: 1) How much would it cost. 2) How many would actually buy. I'm under no illusions, while I would personally love one, I saw the results of the poll, very few people do the BBS's, and I'm not sure how many would even want to use a text only TI browser to surf the web other than myself and of course Stuart who is writing it. That's why I'm focusing on aftermarket hardware, at least with the pre-existing hardware there is a chance of doing what I'd like to accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Actually, I'd probably use it as well. Look at the bright side of a TI browser project: we can surf the web about as totally safe from a drive-by browser attack as anyone out there, just because the code embedded in the attacks won't be targeted to our operating system. Even if it downloaded, it wouldn't run properly, if at all. Extreme obscurity has its advantages here. . .a few thousand TI users worldwide as opposed to the millions using other systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkeey Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I was thinking. What about a proprietary (yes, I know that is a dirty word) HTML tag for handling sprites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Just a little preview of the simple TI web browser that I've been working on. This is running on my TM990 connected to a Lantronix UDS-10, but will be portable to the TI-99. Got as far as being able to specify a URL and retrieving the HTML for that page. Next need to start looking at a few simple tags (character underline, character small caps), plus a sprite pointer to click links. Video: http://www.avjd51.dsl.pipex.com/z_ti_browser.mp4 You know something, this browser of your's would eliminate a problem some people have transferring programs to the TI from their PC after downloading. With your browser... just download direct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was just wondering whether Stuart actually implemented a full TCP/IP stack, but as I saw a lot of the heavy lifting is done by the Lantronix device. Some of you might remember that I once kicked off a project to implement TCP/IP on the Geneve (around 1996), but I stopped shortly after enabling my Geneve to answer ping requests from my PC. If you want to get a full Internet connection from the TI/Geneve using a simple modem or a direct serial cable connection (and not the tunneling technique of the Lantronix) you have to implement PPP, IP, and TCP, for DNS access also UDP, and maybe you can get along without ICMP, but in the end, the HTML rendering is the least concern of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkeey Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Another reason why I'd like a Nano PEB.. I need RS232, and I don't want a big ole PEB. Edited April 22, 2014 by slinkeey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 If you want to get a full Internet connection from the TI/Geneve using a simple modem or a direct serial cable connection (and not the tunneling technique of the Lantronix) you have to implement PPP, IP, and TCP, for DNS access also UDP, and maybe you can get along without ICMP, but in the end, the HTML rendering is the least concern of all. Considering the memory and speed limitations of the TI (due to it being over three decades old), I'm amazed Stuart has been able to coax as much out of the old girl as he has. Now if the Lantronix can give the TI a little help to make it a viable project, I'm all for it. I'm not an Uber Programmer like you guys, I'm one of those dreaded "USERS', so I'll gratefully take the solutions anyway they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 This is the CHEAPEST I have ever seen a Lantronix UDS-10! $18.69 (THIS IS WITH SHIPPING INCLUDED) << HERE >> Get your TI on the BBS's now, or be ready when Stuart's HTTP browser is done! As of now there are 8 available. They may never get this low again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Hatter Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 That IS a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Price went up $3 today sometime after he sold the fourth one. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I didn't see any mention of including a power adapter with the sale of the UDS10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I didn't either. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Needs a 9-30V dc supply with a standard 2.5mm(?) dc power plug. Should be able to get a suitable adapter for a few $'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 True, but the lack of the power supply is just one of the factors one has to consider when looking at the price on these. The current batch does make a good option or those needing a spare too. . .they are cheap enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 This is what I use with mine... There are quite literally a TON of power supply options on eBay, quite reasonable too. One similar option is << HERE >> for only $10.50 (Shipping Included) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkeey Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Needs a 9-30V dc supply with a standard 2.5mm(?) dc power plug. Should be able to get a suitable adapter for a few $'s. Wide range.... I most likely have something laying around that would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Price went up $3 today sometime after he sold the fourth one. . . Dude raised the price AGAIN! It was $12.00, then $15.00, now it's $17.00... I wonder what it'll be tomorrow? At this point it's still the best price available, but it's beginning to look like the longer you wait the more you'll pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 So, the guy has sold EIGHT of these in the past few days.. Anyone here buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Actually, I'd probably use it as well. Look at the bright side of a TI browser project: we can surf the web about as totally safe from a drive-by browser attack as anyone out there, just because the code embedded in the attacks won't be targeted to our operating system. Even if it downloaded, it wouldn't run properly, if at all. Extreme obscurity has its advantages here. . .a few thousand TI users worldwide as opposed to the millions using other systems. I just got to thinking about another major benefit that Stuart's browser could bring. If it had DOWNLOAD capability, you could put stuff directly on your TI without the hassles of going through a PC first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) I'm working on a PDF file about getting the TI-99/4A on the Internet, but was wondering if one of you BBS guys or other Lantronix UDS-10 users could check this BETA document out for me and let me know if it's clear enough for a newbie, if I left anything out or if there is something you think I should change or add. Thanks. ** BETA FILE REMOVED ** Edited October 23, 2014 by --- Ω --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprintcarfan Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You might specify if both the V1 and V2 Nanopeb's are incompatible. I was thinking the V1 might work, but I don't really know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 You might specify if both the V1 and V2 Nanopeb's are incompatible. I was thinking the V1 might work, but I don't really know? Okay, that's been modified. Hopefully I'll get some more input in the next couple of days before I release the final version. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkeey Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hmmm I thought the NanoPEB 1 used the same DSR as the TI RS232 card... Hmmm... none of the term proggies work with NanoPEB 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Hmmm I thought the NanoPEB 1 used the same DSR as the TI RS232 card... Hmmm... none of the term proggies work with NanoPEB 1? Not to my knowledge, that's why I put out a general call. I'd hate to put out something that was wrong. Oh, while I'm at it... could someone PLEASE upload a WORKING disk image of TERM80? T'anks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 BUMP - Still thinking about your browser Stuart! Since the UDS-10 does not resolve addresses, you're browser would be an invaluable tool at << this site >>. Since the UDS-10 requires the IP number, your browser would be the magic bullet for the TI to get it on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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