TheNameOfTheGame Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Oh then I guess I have it since I just flashed that in But I had to do it via ATR since I had the old version. Going forward I should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) This SIDE loader is fixed to allow UFlash to load ROMs from the FAT: http://www.atari8.co.uk/apt/downloads/ULTSIDEL.zip When did that happen? I guess it solves that off by 1 that plagued the old version, anything else was fixed? [for example the fact that in NTSC land we don't get to see the bottom line ] This is great, I'd have to take it for a spin and see how great it is, maybe with this there is really no need for anything else but uFlash ... so kool. You should really put in evidence in your website on both the U1MB and the Side2 pages .... I almost want to donate again another beer nothing major .... lemme see how it fares now. Seriously without your awesome contribution via uFlash and your relentless pursue of having Candle fix the SideLoader this would not have happened. I wonder if the same SideLoader can be also flashed on the Side2 and if it fixes anything .... I am not even sure it is supposed to be the exact same codebase/build. Edited February 8, 2015 by phoenixdownita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) When did that happen? Can't recall. I thought I'd posted about it somewhere but maybe not. I guess it solves that off by 1 that plagued the old version, anything else was fixed? [for example the fact that in NTSC land we don't get to see the bottom line ] I think it fixed the short-file length problem, but I'm not sure it fixes anything else. The story is that I suffered an HDD crash after Candle sent me all the fixed loaders, and this is the only build I was able to retrieve. Obviously I mailed him back afterwards asking him to re-send them, but that fell on deaf ears, it seems. So this is the only build I have in my possession which I think fixes the short file issue. Best try it and find out, though. I'd be happy to maintain these programs (BIOS menu, loader) if I had up to data sources for them (I don't - just very out of date ones since I fell off the SVN somehow). I know they're 100 per cent Candle's original work and it makes sense for him to maintain them... unfortunately he appears to have no time for such things, since he's working very hard at his job. There aren't so many issues anyway with the software; however, the offer is there. This is great, I'd have to take it for a spin and see how great it is, maybe with this there is really no need for anything else but uFlash ... so kool. If all you want to do is selectively flash BASIC slots, OS ROMs, etc, I can't objectively see what you would want to do that UFlash doesn't cover. You can dump and flash the whole chip as well (although you won't be able to write to the FAT until SDX 4.47 comes out). Obviously being able to use the tool direct from the XEX loader is kind of useful, but by no means essential unless SDX is munged on the chip. You should really put in evidence in your website on both the U1MB and the Side2 pages... Please test it and let me know. Whether I like it or not, I need to finish v2.0 of UFlash soon (which handles Ultimate, Incognito, MaxFlash 1 and 8Mbit, Sic!, SIDE, SIDE2, MyIDE/Flash, MyIDE II and IDE Plus), so for sure the website will be seeing some new linkage in the near future. I wonder if the same SideLoader can be also flashed on the Side2 and if it fixes anything .... I am not even sure it is supposed to be the exact same codebase/build. All the loaders are built from the same codebase but with minor variations regarding banking, etc. Obviously the disk version has an executable wrapper. I don't recall if the Ultimate version is a straight flash to SIDE2... I doubt it, since the banking register is different. Edited February 8, 2015 by flashjazzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I think it fixed the short-file length problem, but I'm not sure it fixes anything else. The story is that I suffered an HDD crash after Candle sent me all the fixed loaders, and this is the only build I was able to retrieve. Obviously I mailed him back afterwards asking him to re-send them, but that fell on deaf ears, it seems. So this is the only build I have in my possession which I think fixes the short file issue. Best try it and find out, though. While I can appreciate him being busy with real life work, why wouldn't he be able to resend the fixed versions by now? Seems like a quick thing to do when he had a spare moment, especially considering your hdd crash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) While I can appreciate him being busy with real life work, why wouldn't he be able to resend the fixed versions by now? Seems like a quick thing to do when he had a spare moment, especially considering your hdd crash.... I don't know - maybe he forgot or didn't check PMs... I have no idea. I'm certainly not criticising him for working twelve hour days and not having time for this stuff, but I feel I need to explain why I'm not hosting the full set of updates on my website. Edited February 8, 2015 by flashjazzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Installed new SideLoader on U1MB and it seems it's working. I can launch uflash.xex from a FAT directory and it let me see the contents of said directory to select which ROM to flash and where .... I think I am a happy camper now ... I have not proceeded in flashing anything for now, I'll reserve the honor to when SDX4.47 is out with all the goodies or a final MyBIOS 4.9 whichever comes first [also the SideLoader does indeed show the last scrolling line in NTSC, so I am well now] Edited February 8, 2015 by phoenixdownita 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I actually reflashed the SDX slot itself all launching it from Side loader FAT, that is uflash.xex and *.rom in the same directory and everything worked like a charm. I guess the fix to SIDEL.rom works .... it does not allow my older "bad" CF to PBI boot ATRs, so nothing new there as expected ... just wanted to doublecheck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Brilliant - thanks for confirming it works. Hopefully I'll be able to get the other builds up on the site eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Slightly amended test version, primarily to support the newly released GOS ROMs for SIDE and Sic!. uflash12Test3.zip Sys-Check II flashing to follow. Be careful when testing, especially if you don't have an external programmer for disaster recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 i cant flash SIDE LOADER - 16kb filesize, to much.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) i cant flash SIDE LOADER - 16kb filesize, to much.. lol Clearly you read what I said in the GUI thread, since you posted there. "Dump the XEX loader first, since the external cart slot now requires a 256KB binary." But you ignored that... lol. Just add 240KB of padding to the end of the 16KB binary and try again. Edited February 27, 2015 by flashjazzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 yes, but how i can dump it? when i tried, not working.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Appears to work here. When you say "not working", can you provide even more detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 no.. my english is poor.. how i can dump it? on atari with u1mb i dont have sio2sd or sio2pc.. dump to CF card or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Disable Ultimate 1MB's SDX and "SIDE Hardware". Put the SIDE cart's switch in the SDX position. Put your CF card in the SIDE cart (already partitioned, of course). Boot the machine. SDX will boot with the SIDE soft-driver. So: you have a hard disk. Run UFlash. If cart is a SIDE2, it's already detected. Cursor down to "external cartridge" and press "D". If you get a "device not responding" error, it means SDX's current drive (A:, B:, C:, etc) is offline. Just press enter - you'll get the file selector anyway and then you can choose the correct drive number. In any case, with the file selector open, type in a name in the top box ("LOADER.ROM", for example), and press Enter. You should end up with a 256KB dump of the SIDE loader, as did I. To do: put the empty file selector up before attempting to read the directory, to give context to any path-related error message. Edited February 27, 2015 by flashjazzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Hi fjc, once it is all said and done what would be supported by flashing SIDE2? I mean SIDEL has to be there, SDX has to be there (?). Would we be allowed to have extra "slots" selectable somehow with SysCHeck2 and/or GOS? Or would GOS simply replace SIDEL or SDX? It would be extremely cool to have a "slot" concept like U1MB even if it requires going thru a launcher menu every time we boot (instead of straight SIDEL or SDX) .... not sure it is even possible. Edited February 28, 2015 by phoenixdownita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Neither SDX nor the SIDE loader have to be there at all. You can repurpose the cart how you wish. When used with Ultimate 1MB, the entirety of the SIDE's flash ROM is redundant, since SDX and the loader are both built into the computer. I always wanted to see that upper 256KB put to use. The loader takes only two banks and if you're not into games (or if you have Ultimate) it won't be missed. Sys-Check supports OS slots via the DIP switches. SIDE lacks the logic to support slots: all we have is the external cart (usually the loader) piggybacked onto SDX, or on its own if SDX is disabled. Depending on the switch position, it boots either bank 0 or bank 32. Short term, the GOS replaces the loader so you can keep SDX. It's no risk or hardship now to reinstate the loader if you want it back later. Long-term, a rebranded SIDE could carry a 512KB GOS ROM. For that matter, if you want to keep the loader and don't use SDX, GOS can replace SDX instead. It's pretty flexible. Edited February 28, 2015 by flashjazzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 wow, thanks fjc.. now its working first i tryied only on 320kb atari without u1mb - Dump not work, but dump work on u1mb computer, then i flash GOS.. so.. now i must buy ST mouse, i have only amiga.. nice see this on real hw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks for the feedback. I'll look into those quirks. Note that the status bar should read "Do not power off OR press Reset!"... "or" is missed out. Please do not press Reset during the flash either. I might just collapse identical banks: there are typically lots of them in padded ROMs. So, for example, the 1MB GOS image could be held in 128KB of RAM if all the identical padding banks were effectively run-length encoded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hey Jon, I just saw this on your uflash page: Special thanks to Atari8Warez and AtariGeezer for providing me with the incentive to continually develop and make improvements to this tool. How so??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Still awaiting your explanation Jon... Since you put it out there for the public to see, you should either explain yourself here or remove that note from your webpage... It reminds me of a spoilt brat who got his feelings hurt or the *Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned* BS... I neither support nor contribute to the development of this project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I neither support nor contribute to the development of this project... Well that's a bloody shame... since this tool is seriously the best invention since sliced bread on Atari 8bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 The note is a statement of fact and implies neither support nor any contribution from you or atari8warez. It's possible to inspire others without knowingly doing so, after all. Now: what you remind me of here is someone spoiling for an argument. You've expressed your disinterest in the project, so I don't expect to see any more trolling comments. Thanks in advance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I know who sounds like a spoiled brat here and it's not FJC....another one goes on the ignore list....sigh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Well that's a bloody shame... since this tool is seriously the best invention since sliced bread on Atari 8bit. Not really. As Candle had encouraged me to make a Universal Flasher in the beginning (after creating the flasher for Incognito)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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