boxpressed Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Sarcasm was pretty obvious to me. Trying to "win" by falling back on "netiquette" is taking this way too seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Adding "Absolutely disgusting" at the end of your post says a lot to me and probably others. Now if you ended that post with "Just busting your chops" or something along those lines or even included one of these , I and many others probably would have had a good laugh. It was pretty obviously sarcasm for anyone whose sarcasm detector isn't broken. ..Al 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzep Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Uh....I got the sarcasm loud and clear. The Scrooge McDuck image was what broke through the joke barrier. Jeezum Crow....lighten up some of you. It's games! On old consoles! Rejoice! Be happy! Have a Shasta! Agreed. Sarcasm is A Thing. Anyone with reading comprehension can figure it out. Scrooge McDuck is a cartoon, not a documentary. Seriously, it's everywhere and it's understood without disclaimers or goddamn emoticons. Otherwise what we're being told is that it's impossible to read a book like "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" and glean the sarcasm therein because the author forgot to include emoticons or little footnotes about what parts are or aren't sarcastic (it's ~80% of the book, for those who haven't read it). It's not always easy to figure out but then it's also not easy to make a limited run of boxed homebrew games without going broke. I'm not big into the Intellivision (played a lot of it at my friend's house back in the day but never bought one) but I buy many Atari 5200 and Vectrex homebrews (and the occasional 2600 homebrew) and I'm more than willing to pay for the privilege, especially when they come boxed with manuals. This isn't 1982 and the homebrew market certainly ain't mainstream retail where you can go searching through 40 different stores hoping to find the best reduced price for the game you're looking for. Back then if the game sucked you didn't buy it, plenty of others to choose from. Or you bought it simply because you'd bought everything else and wanted something new, who knows. We are lucky enough to be getting new games for 30-year-old game systems! How cool is that? I still can't believe I own a boxed Tempest, Castle Crisis and Adventure II for the 5200. Or a boxed War Of The Worlds and Y.A.S.I./Protector for the Vectrex. Or a boxed Turbo for the 2600. That's bananas. I still need to buy a boxed Halo for the 2600. And these games aren't being supplied by Atari or GCE or Sega or Activision or anybody else. It's 1 or 2 or 3 guys in their spare time. Even if the game is a verified piece of shit, be happy that the effort is being made, that there's enough of a market out there for a game you don't like to be physically sold to others who do like it. 30+ years, man, and we've got people reinventing the fucking wheel to make all this happen, new PCBs and boxes and overlays. I applaud that effort, even for systems or games I don't like. I hope homebrewists don't listen to the "Well, it'd be a lot cooler if it was free!" clowns out there, your efforts are worth more than $0 + $0 shipping (<-- sarcasm, for the mildly illiterate) (<-- more sarcasm) 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Agreed. Sarcasm is A Thing. Anyone with reading comprehension can figure it out. Scrooge McDuck is a cartoon, not a documentary. Seriously, it's everywhere and it's understood without disclaimers or goddamn emoticons. Otherwise what we're being told is that it's impossible to read a book like "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" and glean the sarcasm therein because the author forgot to include emoticons or little footnotes about what parts are or aren't sarcastic (it's ~80% of the book, for those who haven't read it). It's not always easy to figure out but then it's also not easy to make a limited run of boxed homebrew games without going broke. I'm not big into the Intellivision (played a lot of it at my friend's house back in the day but never bought one) but I buy many Atari 5200 and Vectrex homebrews (and the occasional 2600 homebrew) and I'm more than willing to pay for the privilege, especially when they come boxed with manuals. This isn't 1982 and the homebrew market certainly ain't mainstream retail where you can go searching through 40 different stores hoping to find the best reduced price for the game you're looking for. Back then if the game sucked you didn't buy it, plenty of others to choose from. Or you bought it simply because you'd bought everything else and wanted something new, who knows. We are lucky enough to be getting new games for 30-year-old game systems! How cool is that? I still can't believe I own a boxed Tempest, Castle Crisis and Adventure II for the 5200. Or a boxed War Of The Worlds and Y.A.S.I./Protector for the Vectrex. Or a boxed Turbo for the 2600. That's bananas. I still need to buy a boxed Halo for the 2600. And these games aren't being supplied by Atari or GCE or Sega or Activision or anybody else. It's 1 or 2 or 3 guys in their spare time. Even if the game is a verified piece of shit, be happy that the effort is being made, that there's enough of a market out there for a game you don't like to be physically sold to others who do like it. 30+ years, man, and we've got people reinventing the fucking wheel to make all this happen, new PCBs and boxes and overlays. I applaud that effort, even for systems or games I don't like. I hope homebrewists don't listen to the "Well, it'd be a lot cooler if it was free!" clowns out there, your efforts are worth more than $0 + $0 shipping (<-- sarcasm, for the mildly illiterate) (<-- more sarcasm) Thanks sir, I appreciate your comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Uhhh...Roger that, thread now heading south.This thread was heading south since Post #01. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy_Whelan Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Man, I had not been reading this thread for awhile because it was stressing me out...but I read from where I last left off today. There is so much drama in this thread that I had to take some Dramamine just to calm down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariTexas Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 How about the cost of beef lately? Wowzaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Expensive? Sure. But chump change compared to the absurdly high Knight's Chance. $500 a pop! http://www.neobitz.com/KnightsChance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Lol! I have to weigh in on the perceived increasing cost of homebrews issue. First of all, can we stop calling it $72? It's $60 + shipping. For those that haven't figured it out yet, shipping from Canada is not cheap. J-F has stated that he hopes to sell CIB games for less in the future, ideally $50, but due to the Smurfs issue, buyers will have to bear part of the costs on this one. If that $10 increase is too much for some folks then they certainly have the option to not purchase this game. The reality, which has been stated numerous times before, is that these games are made on a small budget, usually out of the producers pockets, and very few of the homebrew producers would be able to sustain a large loss. It sucks, but it's true. I'd rather pay an extra $10 if that ensures that Collectorvision will be able to continue bringing out great games for the Inty in the future just like they have done for the CV in the past. As for this theory that the prices keep going up and will continue to do so unabated if we keep buying these....I call bullshit. Other than the original Philly Classic 4Tris that Joe sold way back when, I have bought all the Inty homebrews at the time of release and I paid the same $50 for them over the last decade. Just sayin. Also, if the game isn't to your taste, don't buy it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Gamester posted a Troll rebuttal on YouTube. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 He had a lot of people reach out to him that they were personally attacked by trolls (his words)? That seems odd to me but he must have quite a community following I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 When I saw the footage I thought it was a Colecovision game. It looks (and sounds) very good for an INTV game. I remember how much uproar there was over the price of Battlesphere for the Jag back in the day. There are certain psychological barriers on pricing. $70 seems to be going beyond the pain threshold for a lot of people, rationality aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 When I saw the footage I thought it was a Colecovision game. It looks (and sounds) very good for an INTV game. I remember how much uproar there was over the price of Battlesphere for the Jag back in the day. There are certain psychological barriers on pricing. $70 seems to be going beyond the pain threshold for a lot of people, rationality aside. The game is $60 dollars from what I've heard. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/226942-official-pre-order-thread-for-sydney-hunter-intellivision-homebrew/ That's quite a barrier if they can't tell the difference between the cost of a product and cost of getting it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Lol! I have to weigh in on the perceived increasing cost of homebrews issue. First of all, can we stop calling it $72? It's $60 + shipping. For those that haven't figured it out yet, shipping from Canada is not cheap. J-F has stated that he hopes to sell CIB games for less in the future, ideally $50, but due to the Smurfs issue, buyers will have to bear part of the costs on this one. If that $10 increase is too much for some folks then they certainly have the option to not purchase this game. The reality, which has been stated numerous times before, is that these games are made on a small budget, usually out of the producers pockets, and very few of the homebrew producers would be able to sustain a large loss. It sucks, but it's true. I'd rather pay an extra $10 if that ensures that Collectorvision will be able to continue bringing out great games for the Inty in the future just like they have done for the CV in the past. As for this theory that the prices keep going up and will continue to do so unabated if we keep buying these....I call bullshit. Other than the original Philly Classic 4Tris that Joe sold way back when, I have bought all the Inty homebrews at the time of release and I paid the same $50 for them over the last decade. Just sayin. Also, if the game isn't to your taste, don't buy it. All of what you said C-mart, I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Everyone please let me think what you think of a homebrew game like this Recording and playing courtesy of ed1475. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdj3_t9Xfg 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Unfortunately people should be blaming the buyers as much for shelling out such an amount as it justifies the price to the maker. If this guy sells enough the next game will be $82, then $92 and on and on....until enough people say f*** that and the price levels off. Looks like you were right: $75 not including shipping. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/228776-paddle-party-official-order-thread-limited-run-of-20-copies/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 It was pretty obviously sarcasm for anyone whose sarcasm detector isn't broken. ..Al What no one realized was, that Niad's response was ALSO sarcasm! He tricked everyone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomaios Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 What no one realized was, that Niad's response was ALSO sarcasm! He tricked everyone! There's just no way it can not be sarcasm. Also, jumping into those gold coins like that would cause some serious injury. Anyone try to spit out coins before? Blech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACFinPGH Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Everyone please let me think what you think of a homebrew game like this Recording and playing courtesy of ed1475. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdj3_t9Xfg That depends, how much does it cost?????? At $60 I'll buy 3. At $72 (w/ shipping), forget about it. Seriously though, it looks great! Very excited about this release. ps the person playing the game is terrible at it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slab0meat Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Looks like you were right: $75 not including shipping. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/228776-paddle-party-official-order-thread-limited-run-of-20-copies/ Please know what you're talking about before posting. Paddle Party was both $50 and $60 upon initial release, single and part of different packages. William also stated "Prices will go up in the near future" in November of 2013. The $75 is a limited re-release, not an initial release. And William has stated more than once that Paddle Party sold well below what he'd hoped. So the "if the buyer sells enough blah blah blah" isn't applicable. Please compare apples to apples and compare fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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accousticguitar Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Please know what you're talking about before posting. Paddle Party was both $50 and $60 upon initial release, single and part of different packages. William also stated "Prices will go up in the near future" in November of 2013. The $75 is a limited re-release, not an initial release. And William has stated more than once that Paddle Party sold well below what he'd hoped. So the "if the buyer sells enough blah blah blah" isn't applicable. Please compare apples to apples and compare fairly. I'm not sure how comparing an Intellivision game to an Atari game is unfair. I can buy an Atari game CIB for $50, while an Intellivision game costs $75. That's 50% more. That's a huge difference. Most businessmen when confronted with merchandise that won't sell lower the price, not raise it. Just sayin. But, it seems to be selling at the inflated price so whatever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Please know what you're talking about before posting. Paddle Party was both $50 and $60 upon initial release, single and part of different packages. William also stated "Prices will go up in the near future" in November of 2013. The $75 is a limited re-release, not an initial release. And William has stated more than once that Paddle Party sold well below what he'd hoped. So the "if the buyer sells enough blah blah blah" isn't applicable. Please compare apples to apples and compare fairly. I don't know about making a fruit salad, but we're talking $75 bucks for a game made for a 35 year old videogame system. To be honest, the fact that this same game was $50 bucks and is now at a 50% markup speaks volumes to what I was saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hey, 75 is still better than the ebay back market! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Don't buy it then Edited August 15, 2014 by eebuckeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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