Zap! Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Long story shot, a few years ago I was having tough times and sold about a dozen systems and games. Not that things are better, I'm looking to re-buy everything back. Some will be cheap (Odyssey 2), some will be expensive (boxed Crazy Climber), and some will be very hard to find (Colorvision in box). Well, Saturday my boxed Odyssey 2 came in the mail ($40-something). I haven't been up on the system in a while, so I had forgotten that some have detachable controllers. The original one that I sold had wired-in controllers and they were black. This one had white ones and they detach. I have mixed feelings about this, because I want to buy exactly what I had before, not a variation. Unless of course, I can be convinced this one is the better one to have. So, here's three questions: 1) Which came first? 2) Which is more desirable, from a collectors point of view? 3) Is one worth more than the other? Edited September 1, 2014 by Zap! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So, here's three questions: 1) Which came first? 2) Which is more desirable, from a collectors point of view? 3) Is one worth more than the other? This is just my opinion but... 1) The one you have. 2) The one you have. 3) Yes, The one you have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Indeed the model with detachable controllers came first. As for a collectors point of view, i don't care. I've modded a euro version so it has no cables attached at all, and has a atari compatible controller port. So for me it isn't worth more then a other model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Why did they decide to wire the controllers in? I have an Odyssey 2 where the controllers are built in to the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Why did they decide to wire the controllers in? I have an Odyssey 2 where the controllers are built in to the unit. Guess cost reduction. No money spend on 2 ports and 2 connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I have both and much prefer the detachable controllers. If I were you I'd be perfectly fine with the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thanks for all the replies, guys! I feel much better now knowing that I have the original and more desirable unit. I was pleasantly surprised they go for only $40-something in box in good condition. Can't wait to play once my monitor arrives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have an older unit with detachable controllers and a newer unit with black, non-detachable controllers. I'd be willing to rob parts out of the newer unit if necessary when I get around to fixing the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Black Falcon Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 $40 complete? A store around here wants $200 for a boxed O2... and $100 for a boxed The Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The Voice price might be close to reasonable. The O2 price is WAY out of line. $40-$60 complete should be closer to the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I bought a loose Voice on ebay for 25$. I'm not sure the box add so much value.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+pboland Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Why did they decide to wire the controllers in? I have an Odyssey 2 where the controllers are built in to the unit. I remember reading somewhere (I wish I could find a link to it) that it was not just a cost thing, but apparently Magnavox had less issues with repairing joysticks if the controllers were attached. I know that sound counterintuitive, but Magnavox did have less issues with controller wire breaking once they were attached. I've owned 12 OD2 over the years. Two of which had the detachable controllers. Of the ten I had with attached controllers, non of those units had issues with the controllers due to the wires being attached. On the two units that had the detachable controllers, one the the controllers had a bad cable. I know this is antidotal proof, but based on my experience I would have to say attaching the controllers was the right move. If I had to guess, people took better care of the OD2 units that had attached controllers because they worried about breaking something that wasn't easily replaceable. That's just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 $40 complete? A store around here wants $200 for a boxed O2... and $100 for a boxed The Voice. Shipping was like $15-$20, plus it was only missing the switch box, which I had to order for $25. So now that $40 is doubled to like $80, haha. On the plus side though, it game with six boxed and complete games: Speedway! Spin-Out! Crypto-Logic! K.C. Munchkin! Computer Intro! Bowling! Basketball! Las Vegas Blackjack! Pocket Billiards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Does your console have the RF cable with the non-standard, proprietary tip? If so, you can bypass the switch box and swap in a standard RF cable very easily. Just need to open the case to see what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Computer Intro! << HERE >> Is a site you might be interested in. Congratulations on the Computer Intro cartridge. Hopefully someone else here can help out, but I seem to remember a NEW game that came for the O2. I also remember some kind of MultiCart that a guy could get too. I'm supposed to getting my hands on one of these units myself, but my schedule never seems to line up with the guy I'm going to get it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I remember reading somewhere (I wish I could find a link to it) that it was not just a cost thing, but apparently Magnavox had less issues with repairing joysticks if the controllers were attached. I know that sound counterintuitive, but Magnavox did have less issues with controller wire breaking once they were attached. I've owned 12 OD2 over the years. Two of which had the detachable controllers. Of the ten I had with attached controllers, non of those units had issues with the controllers due to the wires being attached. On the two units that had the detachable controllers, one the the controllers had a bad cable. I know this is antidotal proof, but based on my experience I would have to say attaching the controllers was the right move. If I had to guess, people took better care of the OD2 units that had attached controllers because they worried about breaking something that wasn't easily replaceable. That's just my two cents. I would assume it's more because the controllers cables are short, and thin, making easy to pull on the plug. I have a Videopac Jet 25 of which one controller have a connection issue. The problem lies in the plug, and nowhere else. Indeed, removing the plug remove plug issues Based on personnal experience, flat plugs have more issues than DIN plugs, which make sense. It's probably why Philips went to DIN plugs on the Videopac + series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Multicarts can be ordered at http://videopac.nl/forum/index.php?topic=1987.0 It's a Menu driven cartridge and will work on the odyssey 2 and can also work with the voice. Lots of games come out for the odyssey2. Here is a release list of games that will be released this year: Summer 2014 - Packrat/Chris Read - TrafficWas on demo at Midwest Gaming Classic on 12/13 April 2014.Late Summer 2014 - Packrat/Rafael Cardoso - Shooting Gallery/MinefieldWas on demo at Midwest Gaming Classic on 12/13 April 2014.2nd Half 2014 - VideopacBelguim - Western+ (for Jopac)Website2nd Half 2014 - Packrat/Rafael Cardoso - TBA2nd Half 2014 - VideopacBelguim&Packrat/John Dondzila - Amok - Videopac Plus and Odyssey2 styleLimited release of 25 copies which will work on Videopac and Odyssey2 by VideopacBelguim in Videopac+ StyleUnlimited release which will work on Videopac and Odyssey2 by Packrat in Odyssey2 Style (delayed)WebsiteSeptember 2014 - Classic Console Center - Videopac 71 - (release at Eurocon 2014)October 2014 - VideopacBelguim - Amityville+WebsiteLate 2014 - Packrat/Chris Read - Nice IceLate 2014 (TBA) - Packrat/John Donzilla - 233 in 1 cartTo Be Confirmed - Revival Studios/Martijn Wenting - Exile! 2015 releases 2015 - Packrat/Chris Read - 50-foot-tall Stalk of celery (working title)2015 - Packrat/Rafael Cardoso - Sports game (TBA) All info from www.videopac.nl/forum Edited September 3, 2014 by Seob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Congratulations on the Computer Intro cartridge. Thank you! I didn't get to try it yet, but was curious as to why you singled out that particular game when I mentioned 6 games. What that particularly interesting, or maybe hard to find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) No USA model is as bad as the PAL version that I have... it doesn't have detachable controllers and doesn't even have a power button/switch. Have to just pull the plug to turn it off. Edited September 4, 2014 by R.Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenorman Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I have a console with detachable controllers, and it might just be the condition of my specific controllers, but to me the newer black controllers seem to be more responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 That's an original (well, earlier model anyways) Supposedly Magnavox did research and found that the detachable controllers were broken more easily than the hard wired ones. I personally blame the crap cords they used in the controllers, they just seemed flimsy and were not friendly to being handled, especially to your kids who would likely just grab the cord and yank to disconnect them. Never had a problem with the controllers themselves, (though I like the newer ones better) just that shitty cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 How does the hole of the joystick look? Older moldels have a sqaure hole where the joystick sticks out. Newer models have a star pattern where the joystick sticks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 The homebrew scene is alive and well for the Odyssey 2. I have been making new games for it since 2012. Click on the last link in my signature for more info on the games I make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScottx Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 My Odyssey 2 had detachable controllers...but they are black not silver. I think this may be the rarest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenorman Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 My Odyssey 2 had detachable controllers...but they are black not silver. I think this may be the rarest version. My console came with two silver detachable controllers, but one was broken. I bought a set of black detachable controllers on eBay for a replacement. My theory was that they were replacement controllers for the detachable console that were manufactured after Magnavox started using the black permanently attached joysticks. I have no proof of this whatsoever though. It could be that a limited number of consoles actually came with the black detachable controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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