gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Last week I bought a gem of an 800XL from eBay and have been having a good time with it since. After spending some time in the forum I've noticed several threads about 600/800XLs being destroyed by the "Ingot" type power supply going bad. Upon investigation I indeed have an Ingot. It appears to be working fine--i.e. my 800XL still works--but for the moment I've put it on probation until I decide what to do. Mind you, I haven't voltage tested it yet, but I may not bother if it could go without warning. So do these power supplies give any "warning" or obvious indication that they're going to go, or should I preemptively replace it? Based on the horror stories in the forum, I'm leaning towards trashing the Ingot and attaching the DIN to a modern PS. Good call or undue alarm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 first off, DO trash the ingot. I don't think they give any warning at all that they're about to go, they just do it one day, and then you're trying to fix your 800XL. Throw it away and get something modern. USB hub power supplies usually supply ample current, and some USB phone or tablet chargers can too. You should look for something 1.5A minimum, though 1A may work fine on a stock machine (it's only once you add stuff that the power consumption starts to really grow). You should chop the cord off the ingot and transplant it to a modern supply so you don't have to find the right DIN connector mail-order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 first off, DO trash the ingot. I don't think they give any warning at all that they're about to go, they just do it one day, and then you're trying to fix your 800XL. Throw it away and get something modern. USB hub power supplies usually supply ample current, and some USB phone or tablet chargers can too. You should look for something 1.5A minimum, though 1A may work fine on a stock machine (it's only once you add stuff that the power consumption starts to really grow). You should chop the cord off the ingot and transplant it to a modern supply so you don't have to find the right DIN connector mail-order. Thanks Joey Z, that's the way I was leaning. Better safe than sorry I guess. There's a lot of chintzy usb supplies out there too unfortunately, so if anyone has had success with a particular brand, I'm all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Power supplies/chargers with a USB port/plug may not work, many depend on USB handshaking to deliver more than 500mA current. I know this because USB port chargers designed for iPhone I have tried won't work with my Android phone or Blackberry Playbook, they use different handshakes. Because of this I recommend staying away from power supplies/chargers with a USB port/plug for this use. If you do thrash the INGOT first cut off and keep the DIN plug, you will need one for any modern replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Definitely trash the Ingot. It goes without warning. Mine did and took out a perfectly good 800XL (which is now my parts machine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthPlayer Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I trashed the ingot that came with my 130XE, and bought a modern power supply from this ebay seller: http://www.ebay.com/usr/gdoinventer It's a reworked power supply from a modern network router with an Atari power plug. It looks professionally done, is small and light, and works great with the 130XE. They don't have it listed at the moment, but you could contact them and ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I trashed the ingot that came with my 130XE, and bought a modern power supply from this ebay seller: http://www.ebay.com/usr/gdoinventer It's a reworked power supply from a modern network router with an Atari power plug. It looks professionally done, is small and light, and works great with the 130XE. They don't have it listed at the moment, but you could contact them and ask. Thank you FifthPlayer -- I'll reach out to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Okay, so going through my bits boxes I found a nice little 2 AMP 5v Linksys power supply from a decommissioned switch. I checked the voltage and it's actually pumping out 5.2 volts. This is not under load. Good enough, or is the +.2 volts enough to be troublesome? The ingot is pumping out 5.1 volts, again not under load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I trashed the ingot that came with my 130XE, and bought a modern power supply from this ebay seller: http://www.ebay.com/usr/gdoinventer It's a reworked power supply from a modern network router with an Atari power plug. It looks professionally done, is small and light, and works great with the 130XE. They don't have it listed at the moment, but you could contact them and ask. How many amps is it rated for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Okay, so going through my bits boxes I found a nice little 2 AMP 5v Linksys power supply from a decommissioned switch. I checked the voltage and it's actually pumping out 5.2 volts. This is not under load. Good enough, or is the +.2 volts enough to be troublesome? The ingot is pumping out 5.1 volts, again not under load. Not at all. TTL chips like the atari uses often have 10% supply voltage tolerances. If it were 6v, I'd be a little more worried, but 5.2V should be fine. it'll probably drop under load anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Well it's a little confusing. It says Output: 4.0 - 5.5 V, 2.6-2.3A. But then below that it has 5.0v 2 AMP. It is a Linksys model AD1605CF manufactured by Deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Well it's a little confusing. It says Output: 4.0 - 5.5 V, 2.6-2.3A. But then below that it has 5.0v 2 AMP. It is a Linksys model AD1605CF manufactured by Deer. that sounds a little odd. voltage adapters shouldn't specify a range unless they are the 'universal' kind with a selector switch. Perhaps internally it has selections and linksys put their sticker on it and set it to 5.0V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 that sounds a little odd. voltage adapters shouldn't specify a range unless they are the 'universal' kind with a selector switch. Perhaps internally it has selections and linksys put their sticker on it and set it to 5.0V. I think that's the case. There is a matrix of voltage values - 4.0 - 4.5 - 5.0 - 5.5 and 2A is stamped below 5.0 volts. The switch that this powered has an input of 5v, so I'm confident that the supply is a 5 V supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Transplant was a success and the patient is resting comfortably in the recovery room. Thanks for everyone's help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Transplant was a success and the patient is resting comfortably in the recovery room. Thanks for everyone's help! good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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