nug Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 with my recent addiction to spacerocks , ive started building a 5 button controller like the proto or rare 5200 unit.. Which got me thinking what else could this be used for... is a classic like segas "bank panic" style game feasible in dpc+ ? a variation on street fighter perhaps? (block fighter !!) regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) A controller joystick is just 5 buttons technically, but an array of pushbuttons would be awkward to play for most joystick games. You can get ten inputs with Player one plus the B/W, both difficulty, reset, and select. Some games even came with switch overlays to simulate a control panel. You can glitch some games across many systems by pressing D+U or L+R since these input combos were generally disallowed by properly functioning controllers and never tested. Like Mario Moonwalking backwards in Super Mario Bros NES, or glitching through walls in Atari Ms Pacman by pressing down hard on the center of the joystick. Edited July 26, 2015 by stardust4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=113 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 ya realise that some switch combos will give certain software some grief.. I was just thinking games that are traditional left /right with multiple action buttons.. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 So you are making something like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 yes, but mine won't look as good.. I didn't even know you could get the actual space rock controller.. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Oh no, that is a picture of the author's Starplex controller, which was available for sale back in the day, you can still find them here and there. My wife made an overlay for the controller and naturally, SpiceWare has one. I think I sold 5 with those labels, but numbered and boxed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 oh ok, can I ask what the switch is for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 https://www.google.com/search?q=atari+starplex+controller&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=113 s_VaultAssault_SP_3.png ya looks ok... i like the idea of bank panic more... regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 i never saw one of those starplex controllers in australia back in the day.. you had me fooled with the labels seems odd they use the battery for autofire and not the console 5V! regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) you had me fooled with the labels seems odd they use the battery for autofire and not the console 5V! regards Yeah, that's just dumb to use batteries in a wired controller IMO. I use the +5VCC line for power LED in my custom controllers. This would be easy to make with some miniature pushbuttons and a project enclosure from Radio Shack. From left to right, what is the proper button mapping and spacing compared to a joystick? I could see using one for upcoming Star Castle as well... Edited July 27, 2015 by stardust4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Yeah, that's just dumb to use batteries in a wired controller IMO. I use the +5VCC line for power LED in my custom controllers. Maybe because other systems used the same 9 pin connection with up/down/left/right/fire on the same pins but with +5 on something other than pin 7. I believe the Genesis put +5 on pin 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Maybe because other systems used the same 9 pin connection with up/down/left/right/fire on the same pins but with +5 on something other than pin 7. I believe the Genesis put +5 on pin 5. This is correct. In fact the only reason why a Genesis controller works on Atari is because the pullup resistor in the Genesis "Select" line passes enough currect to VCC to allow the chip to operate. When the time comes for me to build my "Ultimate" joystick, which will use dual Yobo clone PCBs for SNES and Genesis (and be backwards compatible with NES, SMS, and VCS by design), I'm going to place a reverse bias diode between the Genesis VCC and Select pin to ensure the VCC plane never drops below 4.4V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 How about an arduino based device that takes up to 4 sega genesis compatible joysticks and converts the signals to something akin to paddle controllers? Converting left right up down into their respective paddle values. This gets you: * Use of pre-existing joysticks * No need for making changes to bB for 4 player support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nug Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) the 'box' is roughly assembled . will put real rotate buttons in when I come across them.. regards Edited August 10, 2015 by nug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Anyone know of a cheap source for quality pushbottons? Radioshack is a bit overpriced (I can get 1 1/8" Happ arcade buttons for cheaper than those peanuts the Shack sells). I'll need them in bulk because I'm planning on incorporating some keypad designs in future controler boxes... And to build my own Starpath controller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultima Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's projects like this that make me wonder why no one has duplicated the 12 key touch pad controller and turned it into a dual thumb sticks controller with 4 fire buttons or use 2 of them for shoulder buttons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Never knew these existed but always wanted one since I saw it here. Would be perfect for pacman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Never knew these existed but always wanted one since I saw it here. Would be perfect for pacman. I don't see how this could possibly be better for Pacman than a joystick, especially a 4-way. It makes sense for early space SHMUPs which involve CW/CCW rotation and thrusters, especially when some function is assigned to the down direction (like hyperspace) that you don't want to accidentally actuate. Edited October 15, 2015 by stardust4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It works well for Stay Frosty 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 By the way, why is this in the batari BASIC section? Is there going to be a kernel add on to support this joystick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 By the way, why is this in the batari BASIC section? Is there going to be a kernel add on to support this joystick? No need to. It's wired the same five inputs as the default joystick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 No need to. It's wired the same five inputs as the default joystick. Just trying to figure out why this is in the batari BASIC section if it's not batari BASIC specific.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Based on "is a classic like segas "bank panic" style game feasible in dpc+ ?", my guess would be nug is entertaining the idea of writing a bB game and was curious if the controller could be used for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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