Keatah Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I was going through and finishing de-duplicating some things. And my roms of Thrust seemed to be a mislabeled mess. According to the AA store there are three versions: THRUST https://atariage.com/software_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=872 THRUST+ DC EDITION https://atariage.com/software_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=2355 THRUST+ PLATINUM https://atariage.com/software_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=2384 The first two are identical roms, and display THRUST v1.2 The third one is THRUST PLUS and also displays v1.2 Yet I seem to have a 1.5 version of THRUST. And a 1.6 version of THRUST+ And other lesser versions still greater than the 1.2 shown in the AA store's rom downloads.. Ugh.. and on it goes.. Can someone please set me straight on the latest versions of each of the three editions? And also check that the downloads on AA are also correctly labeled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Its a bit complicated. The 1.2x (x not displayed on screen, but you can see it inside the ROM) versions are the ROMs which are for downloading. The versions on cart have a different versioning (1.x). The differences between ROM and cart version are minimal. There are three main releases: The original release (available from Hozer and then AA) Thrust+ (which supported additional controllers) (1.5/1.22 ff) Thrust+ Platinum (with better sound and music from Paul Slocum). (1.8/1.25 ff) The versions in between and never are just bug fixes (e.g. the pause key not working in 1.5 and PAL mode; a fuel overflow bug in 1.8 ). Also I have added an extra feature in the latest version (1.9/1.27), which no one has noticed so far. The Thrust+ ROM for download is indeed the same as the original ROM (1.22). I never cared here, because the latest version is the one that counts for playing the game. Edited November 24, 2015 by Thomas Jentzsch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Ok, it looks like I should be keeping the following two versions: Thrust v1.22 -- CRC32 c6ba1bc6 and Thrust+ Platinum v1.27 -- CRC32 da7a96cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Actually you only need the last one. There are no differences in game play between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the clarification. I kinda thought so. I'll dump all the other intermediate versions into the curiosity, wip, and oddities folders. We're preparing for guests over the holiday weekend and one of them gets all giddy over Gravitar. So I thought I'd highlight this along with the arcade Gravitar via mame. Edited November 24, 2015 by Keatah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Please let me know how if he liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Its a bit complicated. The 1.2x (x not displayed on screen, but you can see it inside the ROM) versions are the ROMs which are for downloading. The versions on cart have a different versioning (1.x). The differences between ROM and cart version are minimal. There are three main releases: The original release (available from Hozer and then AA) Thrust+ (which supported additional controllers) (1.5/1.22 ff) Thrust+ Platinum (with better sound and music from Paul Slocum). (1.8/1.25 ff) The versions in between and never are just bug fixes (e.g. the pause key not working in 1.5 and PAL mode; a fuel overflow bug in 1.8 ). Also I have added an extra feature in the latest version (1.9/1.27), which no one has noticed so far. The Thrust+ ROM for download is indeed the same as the original ROM (1.22). I never cared here, because the latest version is the one that counts for playing the game. Nevermind. Its already documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Nevermind. Its already documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Please let me know how if he liked it. Went over pretty good. Much time was spent perusing the emulation rig. Everybody tried to sample everything. And nobody played anything at length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Bumping this up with a question: in addition to high score support, was there a bit of speech added, too? I swear I heard a bit of speech at the end of a game, but other times, I just got a beep noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Nope, no speech in Thrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Sometimes we want something so bad we imagine it is real, then it becomes real, and now you have it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Nope, no speech in Thrust. Cool, man, good to know! Must be my vox. Thanks for the high score support; I really like seeing my previous best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Bumping this up because I've run into a problem with Thrust and the Atarivox. The vox stopped recording the high score on thrust once it got to 35,000 and some change. If I go past this score, it no longer records it. When the score was lower, and I went past it, but not past the 35,000 mark, it would update it. I've tried the vox on a couple other games and it seems to work on those. Anyone else run into this problem or similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a bug. Just tested within Stella, it works. Unfortunately I cannot test for the next weeks on real hardware. I hope someone else can do. Is your high score exactly 35.000? The exact number may help. Edited July 9, 2016 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I don't even have this game and I hear speech. Is that a bug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Sounds like a bug. Just tested within Stella, it works. Unfortunately I cannot test for the next weeks on real hardware. I hope someone else can do. Is your high score exactly 35.000? The exact number may help. The exact number is 35, 860. So far, I've tried it out on 2 different systems with the same results. I'll try it out on a different one later, but am starting to think it's the vox that's faulty because... …I tested this out with a Savekey and encountered no problems. Got a high score, it saved, went back and got a higher score above the 35, 860 mark and it overwrote the old one with no issues. So, yeah, I'll try out the Atarivox later on this setup to be sure, but it's looking like it might be flakey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquirel Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I can't figure out the high score feature. I have an Atarivox+ plugged in and it works for every game that I have tried except this game. I have tried it with the latest download located at the top Thrust v1.26 (PD).bin. I'm also curious what the extra feature is that you added that hasn't been noticed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 The high score feature only works with the cart release. A litte bonus for those who buy my stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM (edited) Regarding the „not save“ problem, I today experienced the following: I own the original cartridge bought through AA some years ago (title screen says v1.9) playing on a light sixer (PAL) and one original controller + a SaveKey. It always behaved well and as it should in the past (at least I think so). I saved high scores for each of the five modes in the past and today I noticed a „too low“ score for game 1 and decided to score better (it was 14.000 something). To my surprise I scored better but the high score doesn’t change (you see in red and blue the last and the best score after playing a game - the last score was the new higher one and the best was still the low score - high score doesn’t update!). I searched and found this thread and thought: after reaching a score (in one of a game modes?) above 35.800 will result in „no more high scores saving“ but… I played on game 4 (old score was 22.000 or so) and managed to get a higher score (29.000 something) and to my surprise it updated correctly now. I can list all high scores for each mode and/or add anything that helps… Edited Thursday at 08:41 PM by Bomberman94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:03 PM Are you sure you did not roll the score before? Besides that I can only think about a partially faulty EEPROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM 2 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Are you sure you did not roll the score before? Besides that I can only think about a partially faulty EEPROM. … not thought about that - but I don’t think so. Will try to get a better score in game 2-5 and see what happens… Do you mean with „faulty EEPROM“ my SaveKey? 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted Thursday at 09:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:22 PM 12 minutes ago, Bomberman94 said: Do you mean with „faulty EEPROM“ my SaveKey? 😢 Yup, but that's only a very vague guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted Friday at 01:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:56 PM (edited) 17 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Are you sure you did not roll the score before? I think you’re right - in my second try for game 1 i scored easily > 50.000 and I remember that I saw the reverse world in the past. Now I scored in game 3 and 4 higher and cartridge updated the new Highscores correctly. These are my scores: (1)14.810 36.950 29.550 -> 36.500 22.500 -> 31.400 48.610 Edited Friday at 02:19 PM by Bomberman94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted Friday at 07:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:34 PM I just looked up how the scoring works: Usually all scores can be divided by 50. Each time you roll the score, 10 points are added. So 14,810 means 114,800 points. And e.g. 10,070 would mean 210,050 points (complicated, I know). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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