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Why do you like collecting for the Genesis?


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I have been thinking to myself lately "the Genesis is such a pleasure to collect for." Here is why:

 

 

-Its fun hunting for various hardware iterations and motherboard variants. (whereas with the SNES its just regular and mini)

 

-I love the fact that the games came in clam-shell cases direct from the factory. This often means manuals and carts are in good shape, and there is no need to print art and buy UGC's like for most of the other systems I collect for which is expensive and time consuming.

 

-Prices seem to be mostly reasonable. Nintendo seems to have gone pretty bonkers lately, and so have a few Genny games here and there. Still, overall I think you can get most of the good titles in the Genesis library for $10-$40 bucks. Amazing!

 

-The games are excellent. I grew up as a Nintendo kid and played Genesis mostly at friends house, and it was usually altered beast or Sonic. Little did I realize at the time how many great games are on the genesis. Streets of Rage series, golden axe series, road rash series, Shinobi series, and on and on. SO MANY good games to build a select collection from.

 

-Cartridges. I have a few K in my Saturn collection; and i'm starting to regret it. Discs have been failing me across systems the past few years. The slightest scratch seems to render and old disc useless; which is sort of scary when you have $200 tied up in a game. It's only my carts that I don't worry about. I know my genesis carts will be working without worry for decades.

 

-Homebrew. There are some fun rom hacks and home-brews out there for the Genesis, with more on the way from companies like Piko interactive. Pier Solar was a blast and I like having Duke Nukem 3D as well. Not a dead scene by any means.

 

-Repro's. For those that like to have a real cart but don't want to spend an arm and a leg, many high quality repros are available for the Genesis. I try to have the genuine item, but in the case of MUSHA I may spring for a repro sometime soon.

 

-The Mega Everdrive-Save states, Master System capability, 32x, Sega CD, etc. etc. etc. What a great device.

 

-Love 16 bit gaming. Great 2D graphics and sound. The Genesis really shines at its core competencies. Its just a nice solid, clean, 16 bit system to collect for.

 

 

 

I started collecting for the Genesis very casually and on the side, but I as I find myself gaming on it more I think i will really focus on it as a standout system in the years ahead.

 

Why do you like collecting for genesis?

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Music. Genny games have some good audio. They're also just different enough. Went OG and got the Mega Drive model 1, rocking a couple originals, a nice repro , and some cheap pirates... Backed up by Everdrive. Leaves me at liberty to only but the carts I really want. I have a soft spot for pirate stuff, and would love to find a Scorpion 16 one of these days. Got a RetroGen adapter for the SNES to run the pirate stuff. Not risking my machine, that a friend picked up while in Japan.

 

All around just fun. Although the super rare titles can hurt.

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I think its games really hold up well today. Along with the Neo Geo AES and Saturn (which had better 2D graphics but not as many 2D games), I think it's among the best 2D systems of all time. It just has a *ton* of fun games; for me, more than any other system of that era.

 

I do also love the clamshells, and the mostly cheap prices.

 

I owned a Genesis at the time, so I'm a little biased, but I bought mine for reasons at the time and those reasons still hold up today.

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Ended up with 3 genny (2 MD2 and 1 MD1) over time as some came bundled with other stuff I cared for (a SegaCD model1 for example).

I'm really just waiting to buy the new MegaAmp for crystal clear sound to mount on one (or two) of them and be very happy with it.

Somehow I like the pixel ratio and colors of the Genny more than SNES.

 

Seriously the thing deserved a higher color count, just going 8bits would have made such a big difference (256 colors instead of the 61 colors it has, well 64 but over 4 palettes of 16 each with 0x00 defined as transparent or background so yeah) .... like the SNES, not even need to extend the palette, 512 total colors is fine.

 

BTW wrt to the SNES it had a few variation on the chipset, not as many as the Genny but it had quite a few.

 

From byuu

 

"From what I know, we've only ever observed 1/1/1 and 2/1/3, although I seem to recall someone saying they've seen another... if so, it's exceptionally rare. And unfortunately the chip version numbers are no longer enough. Nintendo stopped incrementing the revision numbers after they eliminated the separate APU module. The 1-chip may well have minor differences from the 2-chip, but I do not know for certain if that is the case. What I do know is that the Super Famicom Jr / SNES Mini is listed as 2/1/3, but is honestly more of a clone system. There are "drastic" changes. Not so much stuff that's going to affect most games directly, but stuff that tells you the chip is radically different on the inside. Things like the SMP Timer Glitch vanishing, different behaviors of the TEST register, some DSP subtleties, the PPU being entirely different, and mid-scanline effects are totally different which affects games like A.S.P. Air Strike Patrol where the plane's shadow is almost invisible."

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I have been thinking to myself lately "the Genesis is such a pleasure to collect for." Here is why:

 

 

-Its fun hunting for various hardware iterations and motherboard variants. (whereas with the SNES its just regular and mini)

 

-I love the fact that the games came in clam-shell cases direct from the factory. This often means manuals and carts are in good shape, and there is no need to print art and buy UGC's like for most of the other systems I collect for which is expensive and time consuming.

 

-Prices seem to be mostly reasonable. Nintendo seems to have gone pretty bonkers lately, and so have a few Genny games here and there. Still, overall I think you can get most of the good titles in the Genesis library for $10-$40 bucks. Amazing!

 

-The games are excellent. I grew up as a Nintendo kid and played Genesis mostly at friends house, and it was usually altered beast or Sonic. Little did I realize at the time how many great games are on the genesis. Streets of Rage series, golden axe series, road rash series, Shinobi series, and on and on. SO MANY good games to build a select collection from.

 

-Cartridges. I have a few K in my Saturn collection; and i'm starting to regret it. Discs have been failing me across systems the past few years. The slightest scratch seems to render and old disc useless; which is sort of scary when you have $200 tied up in a game. It's only my carts that I don't worry about. I know my genesis carts will be working without worry for decades.

 

-Homebrew. There are some fun rom hacks and home-brews out there for the Genesis, with more on the way from companies like Piko interactive. Pier Solar was a blast and I like having Duke Nukem 3D as well. Not a dead scene by any means.

 

-Repro's. For those that like to have a real cart but don't want to spend an arm and a leg, many high quality repros are available for the Genesis. I try to have the genuine item, but in the case of MUSHA I may spring for a repro sometime soon.

 

-The Mega Everdrive-Save states, Master System capability, 32x, Sega CD, etc. etc. etc. What a great device.

 

-Love 16 bit gaming. Great 2D graphics and sound. The Genesis really shines at its core competencies. Its just a nice solid, clean, 16 bit system to collect for.

 

 

 

I started collecting for the Genesis very casually and on the side, but I as I find myself gaming on it more I think i will really focus on it as a standout system in the years ahead.

 

Why do you like collecting for genesis?

I'll raise you and say the Genesis is the best Retro console to currently play and collect for today. You hit a bunch of the reasons. I'll also add:

 

* Easy to get RGB out of it without modifying the system.

* It, along with the other 16-bit systems, were the high water mark for 2D gaming.

* Interesting historical transition to optical media. Plus the Sega CD has a solid library (now it just needs a flash solution).

* Access to the SMS games via pass through device or an Everdrive.

* There aren't a lot of hardware shortcomings to overcome as with earlier systems (Unreliable NES pins, wonky controllers of the Coleco/5200/Intellivision, crappy RF/AV video output, etc.)

 

My Genesis is the only system that I've had in constant use since I got it. All the rest end up stored, and pulled out occasionally.

 

If the Genesis has a weakness, for me it's the lack of a lot of the early 80s style arcade games. I currently have a 5200 hooked up for that, but it had higher barriers to entry to make it serviceable (Atarimax for the conversions, Masterplay Clone for better controls). I'd love to see more classic games get converted to the Genesis so it can become close to a complete solution for Retro gaming. It already has a nice hack of Super Mario Brothers and a conversion of Adventure.

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I mostly started collecting to relive my childhood gaming days. Started with just the games I had as a kid but then I found more and more games I never played that were awesome and I just started buying and buying. I have to say I never realized how awesome the system was until I started collecting for it!

 

 

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I did not own a Genesis back in the day, but certainly would have if money was not an issue (I had the SNES). But today I have all 3 of that era: SNES, Genesis, and Turbografx-16 with an Everdrive for each. I much prefer the graphics on the games of the 16 bit era to the madness that is today's ultra realistic violence. I have been a gamer all my life, but any money that would typically go into an Xbox One, PS4, or the NIntendo Switch is instead budgeted for the vintage systems which I get far more enjoyment out of. I bought the Genesis model II for $30 on CL and was surprised to learn it had the coveted Sony cxa1645m chip. The games look crisp and clean on my television set. Compared to the SNES, the Genesis is blazingly fast. This makes fighting, action platformers, and beat em up games addictive and a real challenge to play. The library of games for the Genesis is massive, including the Japanese games. I am incredibly fond of Shmups which rival those on the Turbografx-16, and probably cost a lot less to purchase. Right now I am in the discovery stage, I want to spend time with each game running in the Fusion emulator under linux. It is going to take some time, but I want to recognize the genre, and picture the game when I hear the title. I am not going for a complete collection. I want to compile a list of the games that appeal to me the most, so that I can purchase the cartridges for those.

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When I was collecting, Genesis was appealing because the games had a tendency of being in better condition more often (not just the cart, but the boxes and manuals as well). The snap cases also looked good on a shelf and when I wanted to play a game when I was all about CIB collecting, the Genesis was the easiest to do (well, until those cardboard cases became standard.. then I had to be careful. D'oh). The games were often times cheaper than competing platforms, although I'm going to guess that's probably not the case these days.

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Many games are getting to the SNES levels now... Game like Punisher which I think was a Genesis/MD exclusive, Truxton, many of the Renovation made games.... I'm glad I picked up most of these loose or CIB back in the early 2000s before they started getting crazy. And as others have stated I collect for the Genesis because the carts are sturdy, stack well for the most part loose, don't take up a ton of space, and when you do find them in their clamshells CIB or otherwise, it makes it easy to grab and display them.

 

Aside from that, I've always been a big fan of FM synthesis and was particularly drawn to the Genesis because of it. It is funny, because the Genesis was technically the first console I picked up used back in like '98 or so that started my retro collecting. First game I picked up for it, was TMNT: Hyperstone Heist loose for $8 at a pawn shop. I played the crap outta that game that same night and fell in love with the Genesis since. My 2600 and Genesis collections are my largest by far and I still actively collect more for the Genesis than perhaps any other system these days.

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