spacecadet Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I don't normally promote my own videos here, but what the heck... it's discussion fodder. In my latest, I argue that you should probably buy VR now if you don't mind looking like a dork and being tethered to your game console or PC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I am waiting for the next generation to come around. Prices will be lower and the tech will be better. Good video though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 No way I'm purchasing anything like that until the price comes way down and the headset is about the size of regular glasses. Or at least these: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The opening line says it all, "We've been told". I don't really care what the tech industry says anymore. They tell you this, they tell you that, just so long as you buy into whatever it is they're selling. They keep tellin' but I ain't buy'n.VR in the consumer sphere is (and always has been) a solution in search of a problem. The total opposite of, let's say, microprocessor speed advancements or storage density increases. Those two products don't have the glamour and glory surrounding them like sheeples with funky headgear. Any good game or simulation will draw you into it regardless of the display technology (vr or 2d lcd). Just don't like all that crap on my head that excludes the real world 100%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Spacecadet, I'm not watching the video, but my immediate response is a spit-take HA HA NO. It's MARCH 2017 Playstation VR just came out in October 2016 We are a year away from the Oculus Rift from March 2016 and the HTC Vive from April 2016 It's too early for price drops. The inevitable 2nd generation, which is going to be BETTER and CHEAPER, is months away. I say to you that this is the WORST POSSIBLE TIME to get into VR. We are literally at the peak of inflated expectations. There is a lot of software but no killer app. Hardware is at the ideal spot to spend the most amount of money for the least amount of capabilities. This is like buying the iPhone (1) in June 2007 for $499 with 4GB of storage, a 2 megapixel camera, and EDGE networking. I like technology, I sometimes like to be on the leading edge, and maybe you say some stuff in the video that is less laughable, but there's no way you'd convince me that I should probably pick up a VR system now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 And five minutes after I posted this, I see this headline Oculus slashes price of Oculus Rift with Touch controllers by 25% Headset drops to $499, Touch controllers down to $99. I still think I'm right, of course, because I always do. What a jerk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 They have to drop the the price, they have to drum up sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Spacecadet, I'm not watching the video, but my immediate response is a spit-take HA HA NO. I talk about guys like you in the video, you should watch it I confess I don't really understand this obsession people have with price and constantly waiting for that to drop. Yeah, you can buy a system in the future when it's cheaper; you always can. I could have waited 30 years before getting my first game console, which is when I did buy my first Atari 2600 for $13, and a bunch of games for a buck a piece. That doesn't mean anyone who bought that system 30 years prior at full price is a sucker. They've been able to play it a lot longer than I have. I'm jealous of that; I certainly don't feel superior for it just because I spent less. Life is about experiencing things, it's not a contest to see who can save the most money. (Obviously I understand not everybody has the money to begin with, and I talk about that in the video too, but we're on a video game forum. We wouldn't be here if we didn't have disposable cash to buy stuff no one needs.) Edited March 1, 2017 by spacecadet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 For me, Value = Price/Desire I care so little about VR, especially in its nascent, corded state, that there's no way I'd pay $400 and up just for the privilege of dorking around with it. I bought a $25 Viewmaster Google Cardboard gadget last year, and that felt like quite enough for me. I'll send it to anyone who is interested if you cover my shipping charges. You know how some people just don't play or care about video games? Same thing here for me and VR. I respect that Sony was surprised that they already sold a million VR units, in glad that people who dig it are being served, but I don't see myself joining their number anytime soon, if ever. And with that I will stop pissing in the VR soup. Is anyone planning on getting VR at this stage of the game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulletino Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 /stands up and coughs nervously.... I bought my PSVR at launch and am still loving it. Nothing prepared me for the depth and scale of the experience and also the immersion where it does trick you sometimes into thinking you are actually somewhere you physically aren't. The horror games, i never expected to feel the level of vulnerability that I did playing these, one day i'll get brave enough to buy and play the full game of Res Evil in VR. Sure there are a lot of "experiences" and some real naff games, but some are great too, the ones i've been enjoying most are Batman VR, Eve Valkyrie, Battlezone, Job Simulator, VR Worlds, even a simple Dungeon Crawler like Crystal Rift is made more fun by "being there", oh and of course Star Wars Battlefront X-wing VR. /sits again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Didn't they try 3D-TV when VR was failing, and now that 3D-TV failed, they're back at VR? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (Obviously I understand not everybody has the money to begin with, and I talk about that in the video too, but we're on a video game forum. We wouldn't be here if we didn't have disposable cash to buy stuff no one needs.) You assume too much on that context alone. Anyone here could easily have held onto their stuff for 30 years. Anyone also could just like to talk about the old days or are in a learning phase and straight up use emulation on PC, tablet, phone, or some pi box as well which has no real cost of entry or minimal at best. VR at this rate is early and expensive. If you want to poo poo it off as people being tight wads and cheap, that's your problem, doesn't make you right in the least bit. It's not always good to get in on the ground floor with tech, especially stuff that to anyone with some common sense can still see has rough edges and room to mature and with maturity the price of said tech drops. Why buy something now say for $500 which can (this is made up) do a 720p 3D image, or wait a year, pay $50 less or even the same and have twice the visual output? You will be stuck with old junk and have to double invest to keep up, but I guess you have those deep pockets right? You're coming off as one of those technophile types with more money than common sense who gets confused why others don't go right along with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 /stands up and coughs nervously.... ...... Sure there are a lot of "experiences" and some real naff games, but some are great too, the ones i've been enjoying most are Batman VR, Eve Valkyrie, Battlezone, Job Simulator, VR Worlds, even a simple Dungeon Crawler like Crystal Rift is made more fun by "being there", oh and of course Star Wars Battlefront X-wing VR. /sits again. Care to explain? Is it something I really need if I actually already have a job? I am really interested into knowing if we already peaked 3D VR experience and we went straight back to simulating boredom in real world into VR ('cause nothing beats being a virtual janitor for a day). It's half a joke half not, don't know a "Job Simulator" is, hopefully you don;t have to do internship first, then interview, then play the office politics .... you know like a real job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulletino Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's just a simple "small game" where you perform simple tasks to order, in different scenarios. A little light hearted escapism in VR from the daily grind of our real jobs, with no interviews, no politics and a good entry point for those unfamiliar with VR.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's just a parody.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammR25 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'd like to have one for PC racing games but can't bring myself to actually buy one, mainly due to my concern for comfort issues, especially at the current price point. I'd rather have someone else be the early adopter who helps them work out the bugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'm interested in the PS4 VR system since I don't have a mega powerful computer to run a PC VR system, but the price is still way too high for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilnick Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I am definitely interested in VR. My family has the Google Daydream and Samsung Gear VR headsets and both of those are pretty neat. I prefer the Google version a bit more because it has a separate controller vs a touchpad on the headset, but the Samsung does fit a bit better. I want to see if Xbox Scorpio will have any VR capabilities before I decide on a higher end headset. The PlayStation offering looks good and I have a PS4, but most of my gaming is done on the XB1 so I am on hold for a bit. I am hoping that the Occulus Rift or Vive will work with the Xbox Scorpio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Didn't they try 3D-TV when VR was failing, and now that 3D-TV failed, they're back at VR? Still doing 3d tv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So Oculus is owned by Facebook? Yup, not buying that either then. I resolved several years ago not to put another penny in Zuckerbergs coffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Still doing 3d tv Same here, on a high-end projector no less. 3D gimmicky, yes. Dead, no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So Oculus is owned by Facebook? Yup, not buying that either then. I resolved several years ago not to put another penny in Zuckerbergs coffers. Wait, how much are you paying for Facebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Depends how much do you value your personal information and pictures they take ownership of if you use the service? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I played the PS4 VR system, it held promise but has a ways to go to get me to bite. I wouldn't purchase it as is, unless it was like $199. If they reduced the size and made it wireless I'd buy into it. It kind of reminds me of the Kinect (or the Wii), very fun for a bit, but hardly essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Wait, how much are you paying for Facebook? Nothing, because I deleted it permanently 4 years ago, as well as instagram, and have resolved never to patronize another product or service of theirs. Zuckerburg is a douchebag of epic proportions and I prefer not to be a part of his plans for global dominations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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