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#1 lapetino OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 9:29 AM

So, in my research for Art of Atari, I was able to acquire this prototype Atari 5200 Kids Controller from a former Atari employee who had it stored away. It even has some of the overlays, as you can see. I don't think anyone else actually has the 5200 KC overlays that I'm aware of.

I know the one seen at CGE (supposedly the only one at that point) was reportedly non-functional. I'm not sure about this one, as I haven't yet opened it up, and also have my 5200 in storage for the moment, so I can't test it at the moment. But I will take a look at some point soon.

It's a super cool piece of Atari history, and I'm excited to share it now with all of you!

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#2 Albert ONLINE  

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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 9:41 AM

Very cool find!  Are the overlays the same size and shape as the 2600 ones?  Here are the 2600 games that used the Kid's Controller.  You can click on the title of each game and then click the "Overlays' link to see the overlays for each game: 

 

https://atariage.com...&ControllerID=6

 

Here's Alpha Beam with Ernie: 

 

o_AlphaBeamWithErnie_1.jpg

 

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#3 lapetino OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 9:47 AM

Very cool find!  Are the overlays the same size and shape as the 2600 ones?  Here are the 2600 games that used the Kid's Controller.  You can click on the title of each game and then click the "Overlays' link to see the overlays for each game: 

 

https://atariage.com...&ControllerID=6

 

Here's Alpha Beam with Ernie: 

 

o_AlphaBeamWithErnie_1.jpg

 

 ..Al

It looks like Alpha Beam is the same as the 2600 overlay, but this Cookie Monster one says Cookie Monster's Garden, which is different than the final release. I believe that was its original title.


 

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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 11:38 AM

Cookie Monsters Garden was a WIP name for the game: http://www.atariprot...okiemonster.htm

 

Here's a picture of an overlay that looks like yours: http://www.atariprot...nstergarden.jpg



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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 11:45 AM

So, were there games or roms that went with them? Or was it still in the planning stages?



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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 12:38 PM

This is really cool.  Thanks for sharing.  



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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 1:19 PM

So, were there games or roms that went with them? Or was it still in the planning stages?

Tempest can probably answer that better than I.



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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 2:36 PM

There are two know 5200 children's games out there: Astro Grover and Muppet Go Round.  The rom for Muppet Go Round hasn't been released, but I believe Astro Grover is out there.  However I'm not sure if either actually used the kids controller or not, their 8-bit CBS releases don't and I was able to navigate Astro Grover without it so I'm going to guess no.  



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Posted Mon Mar 6, 2017 2:46 PM

There are two know 5200 children's games out there: Astro Grover and Muppet Go Round.  The rom for Muppet Go Round hasn't been released, but I believe Astro Grover is out there.  However I'm not sure if either actually used the kids controller or not, their 8-bit CBS releases don't and I was able to navigate Astro Grover without it so I'm going to guess no.  

 

http://atariage.com/...over/?p=2592489

 

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#10 JustinMSalvato OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu May 11, 2017 5:08 PM

If Atari pushed the educational side, perhaps the 5200 would have had a second chance.  



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Posted Fri May 12, 2017 8:09 AM

If Atari pushed the educational side, perhaps the 5200 would have had a second chance.  

Nah, the 5200 was always meant to be a game playing machine.  The code name PAM even stood for Personal Arcade Machine.  I personally find it odd that they were even considering educational titles for the 5200.



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Posted Fri May 12, 2017 2:58 PM

It looks like Alpha Beam is the same as the 2600 overlay, but this Cookie Monster one says Cookie Monster's Garden, which is different than the final release. I believe that was its original title.


 

 

Interesting.

It's different from these prototype overlays:
http://www.atarimani...dren_cart_6.jpg
http://www.atarimani...dren_cart_7.jpg

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Fri May 12, 2017 2:58 PM.


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Posted Fri May 12, 2017 10:03 PM

Neato!



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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 PM

So it has been a while since I originally posted this, but I finally got around to opening this up and taking some pics of the insides. I haven't tested it yet, as the 5200 was buried in the storage space, but I hope to try it out soon. Open to any suggestions on that.
 
Here is what I photographed of the interiors. I'm not an engineer or electronics guy, so I'm even really sure what I'm looking at. Help is welcomed!

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Neato!



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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:36 PM

Wow, very cool.  Thanks for doing that.  :thumbsup:



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 7:20 AM

Very interesting indeed. You can see all the extra unused wire terminals loose inside. Production version would not have been left like that!

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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 1:16 PM

Man wish there were more 5200 accessories, that and the track ball look really good



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Posted Sat Feb 3, 2018 8:08 AM

The buttons on the top board lead nowhere on this one too, so some bridging wires woul have to be put in place to resore the connection between those buttons and the main board, as it looks like those traces are wired to the connector, just broken between the boards.



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Posted Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for taking those pics and sharing with us.  



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Posted Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:34 AM

Just wanted to say thanks for taking those pics and sharing with us.  

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