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#1 Sleepy OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue May 16, 2017 5:09 AM

First, I´ve to apologise for the delay bringing the english version of the actual rules online; unfortunately, after finalisation of the german version I didn´t mind to do the english version directly... sorry!

However, the current version & registration sheet can be found here:

 

Rules & registration sheet hardwarecontest 2017


Here you´ll find the latest news.

 

I´ll try to post news here as well.

The closing date for entries is 31 of july 2017. If you send in any hardware, please note the adress has changed!

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Edited by Sleepy, Tue May 16, 2017 5:13 AM.


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Posted Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:17 AM

This weekend, two entries received:

 

Final product:

1) Revive1027: rubber replacement part for the ATARI® 1027 printer by Irgendwer

In development:

1) CLM17: Interface for controlling „Light-Pen“ or „Light-Gun“-software with a PS/2 mouse by Irgendwer
 

 


Revive1027: Here you find a discussion with some further Infos on AA: click

 
printer.jpg


CLM17: Unfortunately, software using lighpen or lightgun works with a 50/60Hz crt-display only. The CLM17 interface, connected to the ATARIs joystick- and monitorport, uses a PS/2-mouse to simulate a lightgun / lightpen. With the mouse, you control a cross line added to the ATARIs videosignal to show what you are targeting. So you can use lightgun/pen-software with a modern flatscreen or 100Hz crt.
 

cross.jpg

 

 

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Posted Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:59 AM

The CLM17 sounds great to me - finally a hardware add-on that will make lightgun / lightpen games playable again (even on LCD tv's). Maybe the hardware can be expanded in such a way, that one can also use ST-mouse (and compatibles), Amiga-mouse (and compatibles) or Atari trackball (and compatibles) ?!? Since there are not that many games for the trackball, this could be a way to gain 30 new games for it...   ;-)



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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:10 PM

Hey irgendwer, where is the pre-order page for the CLM17 ?


Edited by CharlieChaplin, Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:11 PM.


#5 Irgendwer OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:14 PM

Hey irgendwer, where is the pre-order page for the CLM17 ?

 

I even don't know officially the final result. Only the suggestions of the jury (which I find a bit discouraging...) ...


Edited by Irgendwer, Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:14 PM.


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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:28 PM

I don't really understand why f.i. a product like the 1088XEL isn't "automatically" listed for this competition. IMHO this is the most amazing piece of A8 hardware this year. I know and understand there are rules to any competition, but maybe this strategy needs a change....


Edited by Level42, Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:31 PM.


#7 Irgendwer OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:52 PM

I don't really understand why f.i. a product like the 1088XEL isn't "automatically" listed for this competition.

 

Without an application a participation is difficult ;). But I can understand why someone with a hardware project abstains to participate. I guess I will go this route in the future too.

To put some beef into my previous answer:

I'm currently translating the updated German manual to English.

I like to publish the manual and some important notes in the order thread first, so that someone who is willing to order knows what he can expect and what not.



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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:13 PM

Hello Andre

 

If hardware projects would be automatically placed on the list of participants, chances would be that other hardware might be overseen.  Nobody likes that.

 

Sincerely

 

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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:18 PM

Hallo Irgendwer

 

 

I even don't know officially the final result. Only the suggestions of the jury (which I find a bit discouraging...) ...

 

We voted separately on each piece of hardware and voted that the jury made the right suggestions.  So the final results are exactly like the suggestions the jury made.

 

Sincerely

 

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Edited by Mathy, Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:18 PM.


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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:23 AM

Here are the final results of the this years hardware competition:

 

Category "final":
Position 1: "Revive 1027" by Irgendwer (place 2)

Category "development"
Position 1: "CLM17" by irgendwer (place 2)
Position 2: "ATARIDuino" by freetz (place 5)

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Edited by Sleepy, Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:19 AM.


#11 Irgendwer OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:54 PM

We voted separately on each piece of hardware and voted that the jury made the right suggestions.  So the final results are exactly like the suggestions the jury made.

 

...and I find this even more discouraging.



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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:45 PM

I guess, most people at the JHV weren´t aware of the fact that they had to vote "no" to be able to change the ranking. That wasn´t explained properly, even I was unsure and felt strange to vote with "no". That should be made more clear in the future.

Edited by skr, Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:45 PM.


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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:59 PM

The problem with hardware is that it is harder to imagine what is actually does without a presentation than it is for software. For hardware in development it is even harder, because you was entered into the compo might have developed much further until the JHV.

And this year both the moderator and the hardware lead were not available. Hence the presentation was missing, and that turned out very unfortunate for everybody...



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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:18 PM

Hello guys

 

They asked if we agreed with the suggestion of the jury.  AFAIK most people understood that.

 

Sincerely

 

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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:04 AM

The problem with hardware is that it is harder to imagine what is actually does without a presentation than it is for software.

 

I get that. I don't want to be the sniveller here, it is just that the only "con"-argument of the jury for the "Revive1027"  was

 

"The number of users will be, while the printer is not common, very limited."

 

This doesn't match the feedback I have, showing that this repair part is really appreciated.

 

I have to return to the manual now, hoping I can release it this evening.



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:08 AM

I guess, most people at the JHV weren´t aware of the fact that they had to vote "no" to be able to change the ranking. That wasn´t explained properly, even I was unsure and felt strange to vote with "no". That should be made more clear in the future.

 

For me it was absolutely clear that I have to vote with "no" to change the ranking. I agreed with the jury and didn't vote "no". They explained it detailled and understandable why they've chosen the ranks for the items.

 

But both participiants felt treated unfairly...



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:49 AM

 

"The number of users will be, while the printer is not common, very limited."

 

 

I was not there, so it is impossible for me to say something about this, that makes sense. But when it is true what you write: that comment (quoted above) is really a dumb comment. 

 

DUH of course the printer is not common these days. While it stopped working, people probably did replace it and trash it. Now there is this fabulous solution, I regain interest in the 1027. That is how it works. 

 

Imagine someone finds a medicin that cures a certain disease (let's say Ebola)... meanwhile 99.9% of the sufferers of the disease died. Well, we are no longer interested in the medicine, who would need it, they all died. Sigh. 



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:28 AM

But when it is true what you write: that comment (quoted above) is really a dumb comment.

 

It's on page 29 of the current ABBUC magazine (130) where the jury presents its ranking suggestions.

(On the following page you can find multiple times a complaint, that there is a physical switch missing in the "CLM17" documentation/schematic - not taking into account that the operation mode change is done via mouse button, in the same way like with my "CMI08".)

 

But please let us stop this discussion now. Here is the wrong place and I like to close this chapter.

Thanks for your understanding and the kind words!



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:44 AM

 

It's on page 29 of the current ABBUC magazine (130) where the jury presents its ranking suggestions.

 

Well... I cancelled my ABBUC membership after being member for Y E A R S in 2017, so I can not read it. But you are right let's drop it. 



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:41 AM

Hey irgendwer, where is the pre-order page for the CLM17 ?

 

Ooops - just discovered that you're asking for the CLM17. Now this project isn't even finished now and firmware still in development - so sorry, you'll have to wait, I'm too busy with other things.



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:04 AM

Ooops - just discovered that you're asking for the CLM17. Now this project isn't even finished now and firmware still in development - so sorry, you'll have to wait, I'm too busy with other things.


I want one, too. Let us know when it´s finished. :)

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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:34 AM

I´m looking forward, too. :-)

 

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Posted Thu Nov 2, 2017 1:03 AM

irgendwer is doing an omnibus-order for his Revive 1027: click

 

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