A2600 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 How do I run programs off my RANA1000?? I inserted the disk and turned on the drive and the computer but nothing? whats up with that?? How do I load my programs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Make sure the Rana isn't set to the slave drive setting (check the dip switches on the back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2600 Posted May 15, 2003 Author Share Posted May 15, 2003 yeah? but still nothing it reads and displays 39 on the LCD but still nothing when I turn on my 800 all I get is the memopad and not the program!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Hmmm... Did you try plugging the SIO cable into the drive's second port? BTW when the computer detects the drive, it will report a disk error message endlessly if no disk in in the drive...or will begin booting if a formatted disk is in it. If yours is jumping right to the memo pad, it's not being detected at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2600 Posted May 15, 2003 Author Share Posted May 15, 2003 WELL?! I booted some games but most of them give me BOOR ERROR or a Red SCREEN I want to play those onther games too what can be the main reason for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 It's working! I was wondering how you were doing on this. If you can get the boot error message, it means that at least the drive is being detected. I was hoping that the problem wasn't something involving the port itself. Anyway, put the game disks aside for a minute...and try to format a disk. Do not use a disk from that bunch of games, but a blank one or something that you don't mind parting with. Turn the computer and drive off. Turn the computer on first with the Basic cartridge, then turn on the drive. This is backwards from the way you are supposed to do it, but we're testing here! Anyway, put the expendable disk in the drive and close it's door. Type this: POKE768,49:POKE769,1:POKE770,33:POKE771,0:POKE774,255:D=USR(ADR("hLY{INVERSE-d}")) Don't type it literally...it will look like "hLYd" in those quotes, with a black-on-white letter d. To make the lower-case letters, press the LOWR key...to make them inverse, type the key that has the Atari logo. Hold your breath, and hit enter. The drive should whirr with a "stepping" noise for a minute or so. If all goes well, no errors should appear in the Rana LED display (does anybody have a list of Rana codes?). If that worked, your drive is fine...and it's the disks that have the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 BTW I didn't know this, but apparently the Rana drive has switches in the back that activate self-diagnostics, format a disk, and select density. Perhaps one of those is toggled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I tested both the disks and the drive before sending them to Bryan, and they were working well prior to shipping. I hope broke during transit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Hmm...do you know anything about the switches and error codes? I dunno what else to check (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Hmm...do you know anything about the switches and error codes?I dunno what else to check (?) Both my Ranas arrived without instructions and documentation; I should've told Bryan, though, that the panel on the front is pressure-sensitive and that drive options can be chosen by pressing the various panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Is 39 what it normally displayed for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I've deduced that "39" is the "default" display for the Rana when DSDD mode is selected; it does not necessarily indicate an error message (I think that "14" or "19" does that). Bryan's display readout should begin at "1" when programs are booted, though (cycling upwards as disk sectors are accessed, until the program has loaded completely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 "True" double-density? Perhaps that's the problem...since commercial game disks were usually made using single density/single sided. Or does that pertain to writing data only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Perhaps, but again, those disks worked when tested in the Rana before shipping. I can only assume that one of the drive's dip switches was (mysteriously) toggled in transit, or perhaps that Bryan hit one of the front panel buttons by mistake when loading the games. I'll have to drag out my other Rana tonight and take a look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Somebody around here has got to know those display codes, the Rana and Percom drives were hot stuff back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 (sarcastically) Nobody has them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenski Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 The Rana 1000 is density smart. It will check the disk and automatically selects the right 'format' -e.g. density, running speed etc based on the disk you've put in. On the back of the drive *all four* dip switches should be down if it is being used as a single drive. FRONT OF DRIVE: Below is list of switches and error codes. They aren't true switches, press down on each one. You can check the drive ID by pressing down "unit ID" on the front whilst the drive is turned on. It will then display the drive number on the 2 digit LED display. Track Switch - press once for continuous display of the track the drive is reading. Push another pad to turn feature off. Error Switch - push this pad to see a continuous display of error codes in the 2 digit LED display. If no error display will read 00, 40 or 80. Another number indicates a problem. Here are the common codes: 01 - no disk , door open 04 - hardware fault - drive faulty 08 - faulty disk 0C - disk and hardware fault 10 - faulty disk 14 - hardware and possible disk fault 18 - faulty disk 1C - hardware fault 41 - drive door open 4C - hardware fault 48 - faulty disk detected during write protect diagnostics 44 - hardware fault 81 - door open or disk not formatted properly during write operation 84 - hardware fault 90 - faulty disk 94 - hardware fault and possible faulty disk 98 - faulty disk 9C - hardware fault during write operation C0 - disk write protected during write operation I've not gone into detail with the hardware fault errors as if you are getting these as shown above, then your drive needs medical attention. You have to give Rana credit , not only will the drive tell you that it is faulty, it will also (at the same time) tell you if the inserted disk is likely to be faulty at the same time. Density - press for a continuous display of current density drive is operiating in. LO/H1/H2 . H2 is double density 256 x 18 sectors, 176K bytes of storage. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Thank you! It's incredible that this info was never archived on the web (well, it's invisible to search engines anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenski Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 No problem, I'll put it all into html and put online and let you know the URL. You are right with regard to diagnostic tests , this is quite complex to write about which is why I didn't put them here but there isn't anything on the tests that would help apart from to confirm a faulty disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2600 Posted May 16, 2003 Author Share Posted May 16, 2003 The dip switches seem to have some effect n the Disk Drive Because I tried a different number of combinations to get the drive to work buy yes It looks like this I I I I I I I I I I 1 2 3 4 5 I I I I I I I I I I 1 2 3 4 5 I set it to this and it seem to be working right with this setting and David I got used to the stupid door latch system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 and David I got used to the stupid door latch system! I knew you'd love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2600 Posted May 16, 2003 Author Share Posted May 16, 2003 Thank you very much and as I told you Frogger II: Threedeep (5200) its on its way to you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2600 Posted May 17, 2003 Author Share Posted May 17, 2003 well when games get boot error or a red screen I get code 08 FAULTY DISK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenski Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 This means that the Rana drive has had a problem, run a diagnostic on the disk and decided part of it is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 I've deduced that "39" is the "default" display for the Rana when DSDD mode is selected; it does not necessarily indicate an error message (I think that "14" or "19" does that). Bryan's display readout should begin at "1" when programs are booted, though (cycling upwards as disk sectors are accessed, until the program has loaded completely). The Atari disks have 40 tracks a disk, regardless of being single or double density (that's how many sectors you have per track), the disk drive is showing a 39 because it's showing that it detects a disk with 40 tracks on it, 0-39. It reads the disk as an atari disk format. Sounds like the drive is fine, and if some disks will load and some weren't, it must have been bad copies (bad disks) that weren't reliable enough to hold the games. I tested them all with the 130XE I sent you and an unmodified 1050 drive, and all the games loaded fine, and played, otherwise I re-copied the game onto another disk, but that disk may have not been too good. I'll send new copies when I get some new disks from B&C. Although those still may work on a 1050 and the Rana is incompitable with some .atr images converted back to atari disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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