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#1 SS OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:01 PM

Having never owned a 5200, for all these years I was under the impression that the 5200 version of Pac-Man was identical to the A8 cartridge. Imagine my surprise recently when I discovered that not only does 5200 Pac-Man add the intermission scenes but also that the ghost AI is a bit improved as well. I have found many 5200 games that have been converted to A8 but not Pac-Man. Is it possible that 5200 Pac-Man never has been converted and, if so, why hasn't it? It seem odd that such a popular game never made the transition.

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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:04 PM

There is a conversion out there somewhere but the Datasoft disk release has the intermissions also - not 100% sure if that is the 5200 version or not.



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:05 PM

It's definitely hacked to the A8 since the '80s because I had both versions.

 

Look here:

http://atariage.com/...onversion-list/

 

And try looking at these:

http://www.atarimani...tter_P_8_G.html

http://atarionline.p...t=katalog&sub=P

 

This is also interesting:

http://atariage.com/...info-and-price/



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:17 PM

I've always wanted someone to hack the 5200 version so it had the much better dot-eating "wakka-wakka" sound effect that some of the 8-bit versions have. 



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:39 PM

I've always wanted someone to hack the 5200 version so it had the much better dot-eating "wakka-wakka" sound effect that some of the 8-bit versions have. 

Remember this post. ;)

 

http://atariage.com/...s/#entry2076748



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:47 PM

It's definitely hacked to the A8 since the '80s because I had both versions.

 

Look here:

http://atariage.com/...onversion-list/

 

And try looking at these:

http://www.atarimani...tter_P_8_G.html

http://atarionline.p...t=katalog&sub=P

 

This is also interesting:

http://atariage.com/...info-and-price/

 

Thanks Bryan but none of those seem to be the 5200 Pac-Man.  When I first discovered the Datasoft version, I thought that it was indeed the 5200 one because it includes the intermission scenes.  However, the "munch" sounds are slightly different on the 5200 version than on either the A8 or Datasoft ones and the ghost AI is slightly smarter on the 5200 as well.  

 

I see that the "Glenn 'The 5200 Man' Conversion List" discussion does list Pac-Man but also has a (?) next to its name.  Neither of the downloadable files in that discussion have Pac-Man included either.  Also, neither Homesoft or AtariMania has a 5200 Pac-Man conversion posted.  It seems strange but I'm really thinking that this is one game that possibly never got a 5200 to A8 conversion.



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:06 PM

I have it on floppy somewhere... I'll report back.


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:17 PM

I have it on floppy somewhere... I'll report back.

 

Thanks Bryan.  That would be great!



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:56 PM

Thanks Bryan.  That would be great!

Well, I dug though my box of disks and it didn't turn up. That doesn't surprise me much since my stuff is still a mess since I shipped everything back from Costa Rica. The games disks were the ones I pulled out the most so they're probably inside a slow cooker somewhere.

 

The file was called PAC5200.EXE and I remember how much better it was than the cart version. Maybe it's on a Holmes disk somewhere.


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:12 PM

I actually don't! Maybe I missed it the first time around or I just have a bad memory.. thanks man, checking it out now  :)


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:47 PM

Maybe it's on a Holmes disk somewhere.

 

Holmes may well have the Holy Grail boxed up somewhere in all that mess of his but I just do not have either the time or the patience to dig through it all!   :P

 

Thanks for looking around for me anyway.


Edited by SS, Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:48 PM.


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:54 PM

I'll post an update if I find it. It wouldn't be hard to re-hack it, though.



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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:07 PM

Having never owned a 5200, for all these years I was under the impression that the 5200 version of Pac-Man was identical to the A8 cartridge. Imagine my surprise recently when I discovered that not only does 5200 Pac-Man add the intermission scenes but also that the ghost AI is a bit improved as well. I have found many 5200 games that have been converted to A8 but not Pac-Man. Is it possible that 5200 Pac-Man never has been converted and, if so, why hasn't it? It seem odd that such a popular game never made the transition.

 

Yes there was a 5200 conversion for the Atari 8-bit and I'm pretty sure it was by "The 5200 Man."

 

How do I remember besides having the intermission?  It had the "#" and "*" as part of the selection on the main screen but the players would use the "Select" and "Option" buttons instead.  Having heavily played the 5200 version, you knew in an instant it was a conversion.

 

Qix was another 5200 conversion that was commonly distributed back then.

 

It's way better than the cartridge version by a mile because of the intermissions.

 

It's more ironic when they re-released Pac-Man for the XE Game System, it was the same old 400/800 version (box and all) with a sticker stating compatibility with the XE Game System.  Couldn't they spare the extra RAM to get the intermissions in at least and a new box like they did with Eastern Front 1941?

 

I remember all those 800 owners being stunned that their more expensive 800 computer's version of Pac-Man was inferior to the 5200.  Disbelief especially because Atari computers commercials for the 800 use to heavily promote Pac-Man at the time.

 

It's important to note that I don't remember 400 owners being disappointed though but that was probably because the street price of a 400 was around $199 while the 5200 street price was about $249 at the time.  Plus many 400 owners got Pac-Man free with specials, promotions, etc.  Of course the number of 400 owners I knew growing up was much more than 800 due to the lower street price.  By the time the 5200 hit $199 street price, the 400 was around $179.  When the 5200 hit $159, the 400 was $129 and so on and so forth.


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:44 PM

 

Yes there was a 5200 conversion for the Atari 8-bit and I'm pretty sure it was by "The 5200 Man."

 

How do I remember besides having the intermission?  It had the "#" and "*" as part of the selection on the main screen but the players would use the "Select" and "Option" buttons instead.  Having heavily played the 5200 version, you knew in an instant it was a conversion.

 

 

 

This is what I am looking for.  I can tell right away if a file is the A8 version because it'll always say "select" and "option" rather than have the 5200's "#" and "*" symbols.  The Datasoft release has the intermission scenes included and even slightly tweaked munching sounds but it doesn't play as fast or as smart as the 5200 version does.  I even found a "© Atari" version on the Holmes site called "PACMAN2.COM" that appears to be exactly the same as the Datasoft one.  The US Gold release seems to be cassette-only but otherwise exactly the same as the Datasoft disk release.

 

Surely if the 5200 conversion is out there, SOMEONE must have a copy that they can pass along.  I have looked everywhere that I can find but have come up completely empty.  I feel like a Bigfoot hunter; sightings are reported but no physical evidence has been found.


Edited by SS, Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:45 PM.


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Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:02 PM

I did an 8-bit port of the 5200 Pacman when researching my Analog article on the 5200. I'll look thru my floppies for it.

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Posted Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:53 PM

I did an 8-bit port of the 5200 Pacman when researching my Analog article on the 5200. I'll look thru my floppies for it.

 

Thanks ClausB.  That would be really great if you could find it.






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