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Keyboard XL XE adapter

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#26 tf_hh OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Oct 3, 2017 5:45 AM

So, I assume that because of the thin PCB size it is still possible to insert the original keyboard mylar after using KEYCON for those systems that are still original ?

 

Yes. The thickness of 0.8mm is the same like used in the 600XL, where a little adapter PCB with resistors is found.



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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 1:04 PM

Hi folks,

 

all interested AtariAge members got their PN with payment details now. PCBs will be ordered in a few days, shipping out can be started in 2 weeks.

 

Thanks for supporting this project!

 

Best regards, Jurgen



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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 4:10 PM

Hi Jurgen,

Payment sent for two boards. Will the final version be smaller as mentioned or same as pictured in first post? First version will likely suit my purposes fine, but smaller is even better! :)

Edited by RodLightning, Wed Oct 4, 2017 4:12 PM.


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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 5:39 PM

Hello Jürgen

 

I payed for two boards.  I hope you are coming to the annual meeting of the ABBUC, otherwise I have to transfer more money.   :D

 

Sincerely

 

Mathy



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 12:14 AM

I payed for two boards.  I hope you are coming to the annual meeting of the ABBUC, otherwise I have to transfer more money.   :D

 

Thanks, all fine. Will do so.

 

Jurgen



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 12:29 AM

Payment sent for two boards. Will the final version be smaller as mentioned or same as pictured in first post? First version will likely suit my purposes fine, but smaller is even better! :)

 

Thanks! The final board is 59x69 mm. I arranged the keys and the traces for the keys in that way, that you can cut the PCB after the last row of contacts without damaging anything, if you want.

 

Jurgen



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:10 PM

Jurgen, PayPalled and PMed you, adding an extra one :)

 

Any pictures of the final board ? 

 

Do you have a reference for the push-buttons you used (with the higher and lower buttons) so I'll order the right ones :) ?

 

Would this be right ?

 

https://www.hobbyele...h-button-6x6x5/


Edited by Level42, Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:12 PM.


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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:16 PM

I guess these need some extra wiring, would have been nice to have the various functions in various colors, easy to remember and find "in the dark" ;)

 

 

https://nl.aliexpres...54-476258b4569b


Edited by Level42, Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:19 PM.


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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:22 PM

I guess these need some extra wiring, would have been nice to have the various functions in various colors, easy to remember and find "in the dark" ;)

 

 

https://nl.aliexpres...54-476258b4569b

Excellent timing - I have a project requiring 5 pushbuttons.



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:27 PM

You're welcome :)



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:32 PM

My choice of colors would be:

 

Break : Orange

Reset : Red

Option: White

Select: Blue

Start : Green

 

 

......and only now I realize there isn't a HELP button.....mmmmm.....that's a bit of a shame.......HELP is very helpful with U1MB ........guess it should be possible to hack it on....maybe a Rev.2 Jurgen ? :D



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 6:05 PM

Hello Andre

 

My choice would be:

 

Start: Blue

Select: Yellow

Option: Pink

Reset: Purple

Break: White

 

But I guess those colors are not available (in this combination of colors)

 

Sincerely

 

Mathy  (who owns two XEGS)

 

 



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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 7:10 PM

 

Thanks! The final board is 59x69 mm. I arranged the keys and the traces for the keys in that way, that you can cut the PCB after the last row of contacts without damaging anything, if you want.

 

Jurgen

 

Any chance of posting an image of the final version for us to admire.  :-o 

 

Oh yea, sent payment yesterday!  :grin:



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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 1:42 AM

Do you have a reference for the push-buttons you used (with the higher and lower buttons) so I'll order the right ones :) ?

 

Would this be right ?

 

https://www.hobbyele...h-button-6x6x5/

 

Yes, these are right ones. It´s standard tactile pushbuttons with 6 x 6 mm and four pins. The height vary on the height of the actuator.

 

A good international source (for U.S. residents and all other) is Mouser. Search for "OMRON B3F", then you will find a lot of suitable pushbuttons in different heights and colors.

 

Jurgen



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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 1:49 AM

I guess these need some extra wiring, would have been nice to have the various functions in various colors, easy to remember and find "in the dark" ;)

 

 

https://nl.aliexpres...54-476258b4569b

 

These pushbuttons are too big - 12 x 12 mm. You need 6 x 6 mm for my PCB. Using 12 x 12 mm there´s not enough space anywhere :D



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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 2:00 AM

Any chance of posting an image of the final version for us to admire.  :-o

 

Of course, when the final version PCBs have come in ;)

 

Here´s a simple 3D model of the final PCB. The drill holes fits well in the real thing, this picture is made by a freeware Eagle BRD to 3D tool which has some bugs ;)

 

KEYCON_PCB_3D.PNG

Jurgen



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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 3:43 AM

Hello Andre
 
My choice would be:
 
Start: Blue
Select: Yellow
Option: Pink
Reset: Purple
Break: White
 
But I guess those colors are not available (in this combination of colors)
 
Sincerely
 
Mathy  (who owns two XEGS)

I meant the LED buttons that I linked to Mathy......click the link to see the colors..

Was just "dreaming out loud" :)

Edited by Level42, Fri Oct 6, 2017 3:44 AM.


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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 3:44 AM

Of course, when the final version PCBs have come in ;)
 
Here´s a simple 3D model of the final PCB. The drill holes fits well in the real thing, this picture is made by a freeware Eagle BRD to 3D tool which has some bugs ;)
 
attachicon.gifKEYCON_PCB_3D.PNG
Jurgen

Cool, what tool is that ?.....(buggy or not)


EDIT: this one ? http://3dbrdviewer.cytec.bg/

Edited by Level42, Fri Oct 6, 2017 3:45 AM.


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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 9:37 AM

EDIT: this one ? http://3dbrdviewer.cytec.bg/

 

Yes, this is the one I use. Some items are wrong or will be mis-interpretated. This website is online for years, I use the last Cadsoft Eagle version 7.7, maybe this programmer of this feature only fully supports up to Eagle 5.x or 4.x, but for quick view it´s a good thing.



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Posted Fri Oct 6, 2017 12:54 PM

These are nice....not LED but different colors and sizes though....nice to recognize which is which by sight and touch :)

https://nl.aliexpres...6f-e5bfbebe6ef0

Edited by Level42, Fri Oct 6, 2017 12:56 PM.


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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:49 AM

Hi all,

 

all paid orders are shipped out today already :)

 

BR Jurgen



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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:47 AM

Wohoo, great !!!!

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Posted Yesterday, 6:19 PM

Boards arrived today.  Thanks again for making yet another useful bit of hardware!  :)







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