XBox One X came out today, thoughts?

[djour]

I picked up the Project Scorpio edition, but am still waiting for updates to install to get a feel for the full 4K experience. Anyone else taking the plunge, or avoiding it for a reason?

[djour]

Also, another shameless plug since I made a video for it:

 

[zzip]

I have yet to see a reason to upgrade to 4K, so I'm planning to avoid both the X and PS4pro

[djour]

There is a slightly noticeable decrease in load times, but game play seems the same as the One S.

[Swami]

Any word on the next generation console? The Xbox whatever (no "one"). 2018?

[Tickled_Pink]

No plans to upgrade from my standard Xbox One. No plans to get 4K TV. No plans to get VR or AR for Xbox.

 

In other news ... It's been announced that Intel and AMD are clubbing together to create new next-gen laptop CPUs. Intel are getting rid of their integrated GPU solutions and have turned instead to AMD. So who knows ... next gen could be using those chips instead of the current all-AMD parts.

[NE146]

Thoughts?

 

[Hyper_Eye]

I play my games on a projector and good 4k projector's haven't dropped to a reasonable price range yet. I think things are going to change for the better in the next year or two. In the meantime I intend to stick with my original Xbox One. It's working just fine.

[SignGuy81]

I'm not upgrading unless someone breaks in my house and steals my Xbox One.

[Rick Dangerous]

None at all. If EA would only make me log into 4-5 separate servers to play a game, rather than just a paltry 2-3, then maybe I could get excited about 4k update screens.

[spacecadet]

I'm doing a video for it too. Unfortunately, disaster struck and my unboxing went all out of focus. Can't really re-shoot that once everything's all hooked up...

 

I have the Project Scorpio edition too. I didn't have any sort of Xbox One before and I had wanted an Xbox One S for the 4K Blu-Ray player and 4K/HDR streaming. But when they announced the X and specifically the Project Scorpio edition I figured what the hell, I'm upgrading my system to 4K anyway, may as well buy the best Xbox and one that can realistically play games in 4K too.

 

I'm sure it's not for everyone. In my video, I'm even saying that you should probably buy an Xbox One S, or if you have one already, just keep it. I'm not entirely sure I will keep my Xbox One X either; I have to decide if it's more worth having that extra money and just going with an S. I realized literally today that I'm going to need a new receiver if I want 4K and surround sound at the same time; I had an idea that I could use a splitter to go into my TV and my older receiver, but HDMI only works as well as the weakest link in the chain and a splitter doesn't really split that chain; the Xbox One still sees every component and drops down to match the weakest. So having an extra $250 would really help right now because half the reason I bought an Xbox One was to really have a 4K home theater experience, not just for games. So I don't really have a choice about buying a new receiver.

Edited November 8, 2017 by spacecadet

[Austin]

If I had the extra money I would like to own one. Digital Foundry has done a bunch of tests and the results are positive. The biggest thing for me isn't so much the 4K stuff as it is the performance boost for existing games nearly across the board. Lots of interesting improvements happening, even for XBOX 360 backwards compatible games.

 

[BillyHW]

XBox One X has to the dumbest name for a system ever.

 

And does anyone remember when consoles were supposed to be about a common gaming experience for everybody?

[SignGuy81]

After seeing the pic I was curious about what what they must have done different b/c it had the vent on the side, not the big top vent like the Xbox One or the later 360 models. And knowing that the original 360 models had the RROD problem got me thinking oh crap here we go again. But then I just read this

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xbox-one-x-vapor-cooling-system,34787.html

 

And makes sense, I thought they must be doing something different for cooling.

[MrMaddog]

I have yet to see a reason to upgrade to 4K, so I'm planning to avoid both the X and PS4pro

 

Same here... As much as I would like to get the Scorpio (much cooler name), I'm not planning on getting a 4K TV anytime soon. And even if it improves the framerates on a 1080p display it's still too much money at $500. Still it's a good option sometime in the future and I can still play my existing X1/360 games on it.

 

The X 1 X right now is more of a niche product for 'core gamers who want the latest & greatest thing with money no object. But the X 1 S is still good enough for most of us who just want something to play games on...and MS is ok with that as well.

[moycon]

Mine should be here tomorrow. My old, old gaming TV (It was one of the first HDMI type TVs with one input) suddenly stopped powering up recently.

I plan on eventually seeing if it can be repaired on the cheap, but in the meantime took the opportunity to pick up a 4k HDR TV. The picture is awesome even just using my Gears of War Xbox One, looking forward to seeing how the Xbox One X looks hooked up.

[djour]

After seeing the pic I was curious about what what they must have done different b/c it had the vent on the side, not the big top vent like the Xbox One or the later 360 models. And knowing that the original 360 models had the RROD problem got me thinking oh crap here we go again. But then I just read this

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xbox-one-x-vapor-cooling-system,34787.html

 

And makes sense, I thought they must be doing something different for cooling.

I mention that in the video. One of the comments came from OldschoolRetroGamer from this site. He informed me of the vapor chamber cooling system.

 

In layman's terms, it seems a small amount of sealed liquid cools the unit and turns to gas. It is cycled through the system where it returns to its liquid state, repeat forever.

[Hyper_Eye]

I realized literally today that I'm going to need a new receiver if I want 4K and surround sound at the same time; I had an idea that I could use a splitter to go into my TV and my older receiver, but HDMI only works as well as the weakest link in the chain and a splitter doesn't really split that chain; the Xbox One still sees every component and drops down to match the weakest. So having an extra $250 would really help right now because half the reason I bought an Xbox One was to really have a 4K home theater experience, not just for games. So I don't really have a choice about buying a new receiver.

 

Does your receiver have optical (S/PDIF) input? You can use HDMI for video and optical to your receiver for surround sound.

[+remowilliams]

Elite Dangerous is all kinds of awesome better on the XB1X, that much I can say so far

[Video]

I just got a 1080p TV and still haven't set it up, most likely it'll be on the range of 10~ish years before I bother upgrading to 4k. And that will likely be a requirement rather than desire. Of course if you don't want a scorpion, better get a one s now, as they won't be sold much longer.

[Flojomojo]

I'm a very casual gamer and 1080p still feels like plenty of resolution to me. If and when it's time to replace screens, I'll consider new Xbone at that future date, when everything is cheaper. My 4TB external drive on my current Xbone is more than half full, so the increased storage needed for the new assets will probably force me to make choices about what to keep, which is no fun.

[Punisher5.0]

I'm not a big Xbox fan but this system has some nice hardware. It is definitely making me interested.

[zzip]

I'm a very casual gamer and 1080p still feels like plenty of resolution to me. If and when it's time to replace screens, I'll consider new Xbone at that future date, when everything is cheaper. My 4TB external drive on my current Xbone is more than half full, so the increased storage needed for the new assets will probably force me to make choices about what to keep, which is no fun.

It really depends on your screen size and how far away you sit from it whether you would even notice a difference from 4K. A lot of people wouldn't in their current living room set up. They say the HDR that newer 4K TVs have is a bigger deal than 4K itself.

[Bill Loguidice]

Mine arrives today. It's going to displace an Xbox One S in our family room (and I'll literally just be swapping plugs in the back, which makes me happy since I don't like to move things much).

 

For those who say the resolution bump is not a big deal, for the most part, that's true, at least at the distances most of us sit from our TVs, no matter how large said TVs are. As I've discussed elsewhere, the real difference is in the games that support HDR. When you have both the resolution bump and a color depth bump, the results are genuinely stunning. This of course applies to straight up video content too.

 

Unfortunately, not everyone bought a 4K TV with HDR (or Dolby Vision), so they don't see any benefit other than increased resolution. I've seen some frustrated people on my Facebook timeline because of this, but you have to stay on top of these things, especially with long-term purchases like a TV and not just be seduced by the best price (and for the record, the only other 4K TV we have besides the big LG that supports HDR/Dolby Vision is an older Vizio in our master bedroom that does not have HDR support, but it's really not that important in a secondary display like that that is mostly used to watch a TV show or two at night).

 

Anyway, just like with the PS4 Pro, the nice thing with the Xbox One X is that even if you can't enjoy the full benefits of 4K HDR, you can at least get a nice performance boost a lot of the time.

[Bill Loguidice]

I just got a 1080p TV and still haven't set it up, most likely it'll be on the range of 10~ish years before I bother upgrading to 4k. And that will likely be a requirement rather than desire. Of course if you don't want a scorpion, better get a one s now, as they won't be sold much longer.

 

I disagree. Both Sony and Microsoft are pursuing a low/high strategy, and the S fits well in the former category. In fact, both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are not expected to make up the majority of consoles sales for either company for the foreseeable future. The much lower cost PS4 Slim and Xbox One S are apparently too tempting for most people, and the fact that they play the exact same games, albeit not with the highest end features (although they both support HDR where available and in the latter's case, at least limited 4K), still makes them safe purchases.

 

I forget what the reported ratio is of PS4 Slim to PS4 Pro sales, but it's something like 4:1. I suspect on the Xbox One side there will be a similar disparity. The good thing is that even with mostly early adopter sales now, these are building high performance foundations that will serve the future well.