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#401 Albert OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 11:57 AM

It's a pain on mobile to get to first post

 

This will be fixed with the updated forum software soon. 

 

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#402 Hastor OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:28 PM

I sent an email as well, yesterday. Actually 2 emails cause I added a note about the quantity. Please let me know if you didn't get it (I identified myself as Hastor from the forums in it).



#403 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:47 PM

 

Most people read the most recent posts.  The stuff on Post #1 is for the newcomers to the thread.  I never saw the email, thinking read the latest posts.   If the update are on Post #1, it might get ignored if you read just the most recent posts.   Maybe Starwander should have updated it (and actually did) BOTH within the thread at the most recent point as well as the beginning.  I see more updates within the conversation at the most recent point, as well as updates at post #1.

Great points, thanks 



#404 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:47 PM

I sent an email as well, yesterday. Actually 2 emails cause I added a note about the quantity. Please let me know if you didn't get it (I identified myself as Hastor from the forums in it).

I got it thank you 



#405 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 7:47 PM

 

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#406 7800rulez OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:00 PM

I'm interested if these are still available. Not sure if I sent an email..

#407 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:11 PM

I'm interested if these are still available. Not sure if I sent an email..

If not sure sent an email to Starwander@Comcast.net and I will put you on the list

William 



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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2018 10:07 PM

Yes if you sent an email you are on the list

sent more than one email, and since it's an email... there wasn't a need to include my email address since the email address is apparent from the email.. I like so many other are always nervous when there isn't a response.. we all like confirmation and the comfort it brings... nobody wants to miss out. I know I sure don't wanna miss out.

 

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#409 Barone OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2018 4:48 AM

I've sent an e-mail as well. Please, include me in the list.



#410 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:55 PM

sent more than one email, and since it's an email... there wasn't a need to include my email address since the email address is apparent from the email.. I like so many other are always nervous when there isn't a response.. we all like confirmation and the comfort it brings... nobody wants to miss out. I know I sure don't wanna miss out.

 

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Excellent point and I agree. I changed the email address over to my personal one so I could make sure that everyone gets a reply. Clint did a great job however and want to thank him for collecting the initial emails as there were tons of them! 



#411 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:55 PM

I've sent an e-mail as well. Please, include me in the list.

Fantastic



#412 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:59 AM

Big update today! Hopefully these work as well as they look, if so I can have these under production in no time. 



#413 Saturn OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:08 AM

Nice! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



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Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:49 PM

Looking good! 



#415 ls650 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:58 AM

Holy moly....  this is gettin' exciting!



#416 BeefMan OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:21 AM

These are looking fantastic, super impressed.

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:26 AM

About yesterday's update:  That's disappointing about the D-pad.  I hope they get it worked out for you, quickly.



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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:52 AM

Looks great. When will you need the $$? 

 

Update 07-21-2018

Got the controllers and they look like the originals and everything works perfectly except for the D-Pad. It works however you have to push down somewhat harder than the original to activate it. They are working on fixing this. As soon as it is down then I can start production. I hope this is soon. 

 

Update 07-11-2018

The finished prototypes are being sent out today for my inspection. Will do a comprehensive review of the controllers with video and ensure they match the original. If they do I can start mass production! 

 

Update 06-06-2018

Since these are getting a lot closer I wanted to make sure that I have everyone down that is interested. If you sent an email previously please send one to me personal email address as well Starwander@Comcast.net just so I can make sure you are on the list. Once they arrive I will start sending out emails to everyone on the list. Yes everyone that send me an email will get a reply thanking them and acknowledging receipt. 

 

Update 06-04-2018 

The controller shells are nearly finished. These are the prototypes off the new mold.They need some refining and the final samples will not have the Atari logo on them. We are getting so close now! Another great piece of news is the controllers will be assembled by the same factory that made the original Sega Genesis controllers for Sega! Also for those interested in understanding the name change I sold Mortoff Games about a month ago in order to free up time for other projects like this one. 

 

Update 05-21-2018

The small button mold is finished and pictures have been posted. Things are moving along at a clipper pace now. The boxes are being made as well and will be included free of charge. 

 

Update 05-14-2018. 

The silicone buttons are done and they sent pictures of the first samples of the production press. I have attached them to the post. 

 

Update 05-08-2018. 

There were some recommendations about having a box that growled like a Jaguar when you open it. Since we have time I went ahead and actually discussed with the box company if such a think could be done and it indeed could! The cost wouldn't be cheap however and despite how exciting it might be unsure if the cost would be worth it. 

 

Update 04-23-2018

I thought I would post another update. Things are progressing well; however slowly. The biggest part of the project is nearly done the molds for the buttons and controller shells and should be posting pictures of these shortly. The conductive pads, circuit board and controller cable are still plugging along. As soon as I get the samples for the controller shells and buttons will have post pictures for everyone. One thing I was brewing over is if I should have a box for the controller or just sell them without a box. Haven't decided yet. Thank you for your patience. 

 

Update 03-12-2018.

The Chinese Holiday totally destroyed my time table as I had hoped to have these for JagFest however not going to happen now. The molds have been delayed and as such we are looking for another month to get the molds finished. If anyone has any questions happy to answer them. I am sorry for the delay. 

 

Update 01-31-2018

Sorry for the slow updates however things have been hectic. I have been working on getting the Atari 2600 and 5200 shells released and it has been challenging. The Atari 2600 shells should be shipping next week if anyone needs brand new shells for home brews and such. The Atari 5200 shells need more work still. For the Jaguar controllers they are moving along nicely. The prototype PCB board came in; however they duplicated the original non-pro controller! Regardless that is an easy fix and they are making the correct boards right now. Hopefully can post a video shortly of the prototype board working in an original controller. Can't wait to get these out and should have more news about ETA in the coming days. Thank you for your patience. 

 

Update 01-17-2018. 

Sorry for the slow updates. Manufacturing of the prototype parts was slowed down due to the Holidays. The sample PCB board is on its way which in my opinion is the most critical part to prove that the original PCB can be remade and work with the system. The demo video the factory sent me showed it working perfectly and as soon as I get it I will see if I can set up a demo video of it in action. 

 

We Did It!

Update 12-21-2017 We are at 632 controllers ordered and have meet the goal number for funding purposes. I am starting discussions with the various parts suppliers to start work on the project and will put the down payment on everything. I will update you all about the progress as it becomes available.  They will be sending me a demo prototype controller of the final product to show off. Please email jagprocontroller@gmail.com with your name and number of controllers interested in. MOQ of 2 controllers 

 

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Update 12-20-2017: Alright folks we are nearing the end of the pre-order thread here. If anyone else was interested in jumping in now is the time. 

Update 12-03-2017: We are at 499 total controllers pre-ordered. Let's keep going folks. 

Update 11-13-2017: We are at 301 total controllers pre-ordered. Let's keep going folks. 

 

Overview 

I have been working with Clint Thompson here on the forums to see if it was possible to develop a brand new replica of the original Atari Jaguar Pro Controllers. I have a lot of experience in making the individual parts; however I have never remade an entire accessory before. It appears that it is possible despite its complexity. To re-make the original controller the following molds have to be made: 

  1.  Atari Jaguar Pro Controller Shell Mold
    1. Re-making the exterior shell exactly the same minus the logo isn't hard. The quality should be the same as my reproduction Atari Jaguar shells can attest to
  2. D Button Mold and Red Buttons Mold
    1. Have to have two button molds since they are different colors.
  3. Silicone Membrane Mold
    1. The company I use is a top rated one that makes these for many large companies all over the world. The quality should be excellent. Obviously we want to mimic the original feel of the controllers and will try our hardest to do so there may be slight variation from the original however. 
  4. Connector Port Mold
  5. Silicone Board Mold

Challenges to this Project

  • Cost: The project will cost over $30,000 to complete and as such we need to have sufficient interest to make it viable which we have met. If you are interested in purchasing one please reserve one by emailing Starwander@Comcast.net and leave your email and full name stating your interest in the controllers so we can get a tally.
  • Quality: The controllers must work on the original hardware and must feel and work like the original. To this end the controllers would not be released and sold until both conditions were satisfied 

FAQ

  • What system do these work with? 
  • What would be the price?
    • $60 per controller with a MOQ of 2 controllers at a time
  • Does the price include shipping?
    • In the US shipping should be $5.00 for two controllers. Outside the US a 1lb 4oz package [Each controller is 7ozs] would cost $21.14. 
  • How do I order one?
    • Email Starwander@Comcast.net 
  • How are you going to ensure quality? 
    • During the design phase once the mold is finished they send samples for approval at this time its our opportunity to refine the design until the product is correct. 
  • Are you going to ask us to pay upfront and then use the money to build the controllers and deliver at a nebulous future date like Kickstarter? 
    • Absolutely not. You don't pay until the controllers are ready to ship.  
  • Can I return the controller if I don't like it?
    • Yes you can return them however I would not sell them unless they are like the original 
  • Can you include additional features such as USB cable, rapid fire feature or joystick?
    • The goal of this project is to re-make the original as designed. If the project is very successful maybe down the road. If you are interested in offering an add-on or modification service for people buying these controllers I fully support and endorse it. 
  • Will it have the Atari Jaguar Logo? 
    • No it will not have the logo
  • Is this legal?
    • Absolutely legal to re-make them since the patents expired on original hardware design. This is the reason people make 1:1 clone systems of the NES/SNES and such now. 

 



#419 RupanIII OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:52 PM

He got that many orders

The problem is going to be the maths aren't in your favour. :(

If its going to cost 30000 plus to produce then the unit cost of 50 to 60 dollars means you are going to have to sell 500 to 600 plus controllers just to cover the cost. This is into a very limited market.


Edited by RupanIII, Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:53 PM.


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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:28 PM

1) I earlier put in an order for 2 Jag Pro Re-Pros.  Confriming the oder.  Will pay in August $120 for 2 controllers + $5 shipping to US.

 
2) About your 5200 adapters…
 
a) Will they universally work with every Jaguar controller, so I can hook it up to a naked originnal PCB for a fight stick as well as a pad.
 
b)I assume it will work in a digital manner actuating 100% cardinal, 100% X + 100% Y diagonal, or neutral, so it would be good for fight sticks.
 
c) If that’s the case, then a few seemingly digital games will have problems when using diagonals.   So using a technology used in hitboxes, maybe there should be an optional external Simultaneous Any Cardinal Direction Scrubber, so that if a game gives errors when you press a diagonal, just plug this in and it will only lock in a perpendicular cardinal when the original cardinal is released.  So this locks out everything except Neutral and one cardinal at a time.    This device can be independent and have a 5200-> 5200 adapter, so it can be used with Competition Pro Joysticks too which suffer from this problem in like 4 games or less, Popeye, Mountain King, Bounty Bob Strikes Back, and maybe one other game.  This technology was originally used to lock out W+E and N+S combinations, which gave hitboxes an advantage.  Test your Jaguar-> 5200 adapter on Popeye and see if pressing diagonal gives you any trouble.
 
3) Why isn’t your 2600 adapter a 7800 adapter with 2 button mode?


#421 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:41 PM

About yesterday's update:  That's disappointing about the D-pad.  I hope they get it worked out for you, quickly.

It will be fixed, its just a matter of some re-tooling. How long hopefully not long. 



#422 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:42 PM

Looks great. When will you need the $$? 

I will only start accepting payment once the controllers are finished. I don't want to take anyone's money until I can delivery the product as advertised. I hate these pre-order scams that have you pay money way in advance for the possibility of getting something similar to what was promised down the line. 



#423 Starwander OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:42 PM

 

1) I earlier put in an order for 2 Jag Pro Re-Pros.  Confriming the oder.  Will pay in August $120 for 2 controllers + $5 shipping to US.

 
2) About your 5200 adapters…
 
a) Will they universally work with every Jaguar controller, so I can hook it up to a naked originnal PCB for a fight stick as well as a pad.
 
b)I assume it will work in a digital manner actuating 100% cardinal, 100% X + 100% Y diagonal, or neutral, so it would be good for fight sticks.
 
c) If that’s the case, then a few seemingly digital games will have problems when using diagonals.   So using a technology used in hitboxes, maybe there should be an optional external Simultaneous Any Cardinal Direction Scrubber, so that if a game gives errors when you press a diagonal, just plug this in and it will only lock in a perpendicular cardinal when the original cardinal is released.  So this locks out everything except Neutral and one cardinal at a time.    This device can be independent and have a 5200-> 5200 adapter, so it can be used with Competition Pro Joysticks too which suffer from this problem in like 4 games or less, Popeye, Mountain King, Bounty Bob Strikes Back, and maybe one other game.  This technology was originally used to lock out W+E and N+S combinations, which gave hitboxes an advantage.  Test your Jaguar-> 5200 adapter on Popeye and see if pressing diagonal gives you any trouble.
 
3) Why isn’t your 2600 adapter a 7800 adapter with 2 button mode?

 

I am not making any of the adapters. I just posted them in the listing for those that are interested in them. 



#424 Lastblade OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:30 PM

I am on the list!  Very excited for this.



#425 tripletopper OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:47 PM

I am not making any of the adapters. I just posted them in the listing for those that are interested in them. 

 

Now I see the links.   Thanks.  And thanks for putting me on the list of Jag-Pro Re-Pros.  I wouldn't buy the Jaguar to 7800 adapter, becuase it doesn't work in 2 button mode.  Instead I'd get the Genesis to 7800 adapter  and the Colecovision board from Edladdin.






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