If there wasn’t then why did both the ST and Amiga fail to even make a dent in US by 1990? Why had computer sales past 84 sales see a huge slump? It seems that the claims of a shift to Atari or Commodore in terms of hardware coming into the home seems rather fanciful. Considering that Commodore would soon shift their attention to the PAL region as would Atari. The claims simply don’t match the history of the events of the mid 80’s. Events that saw both companies abandon the American market for greener pasture.
Because in 1984 you could get an Atari XL or Commodore 64, monitor, disk drive and printer for around $500-$600, while an Apple IIe cost like $1500 for the same set-up and a DOS or CP/M computer cost around $2000+.
I'm from the US and the majority of the computer specialty shops in the 80's sold Atari and Commodore products as well. If there was a home computer crash in 1984 in the US, it sure didn't feel like it.
A ton of households? Who and where? The C64 was barely able to move 12 million units into the commercial market world wide in 11 years? How much of that supply reached the US market? Even as Tremiel had gutted his supply chain in the specialty shops during the price war with Texas Instruments. Specialty shops that would abandon both companies out of fear of being priced out in the market of both Commodore and Atari’s newest shiny toys on the market.
While video games and consoles were being liquidated at the time, computer games and productivity software held their retail value. New computers were being introduced and new software and computer games were being made at the time. Companies who made productivity software and game companies like Microprose, Epyx, Electronic Arts, Infocom, SSI and others all seemed to be doing well in the US. Most serious/hobbyist video gamers in the US in the mid-80's seemed to make a shift from consoles to computers and it seemed like a ton of households were getting Commodore, Atari, Apple and MS-DOS computers during that time.
It’s is clear as day, by both the sales numbers I posted in a previous page as well as the failure of both Commodore and Atari to grow their brands in the US, that there is a vacuum in the computer market between 1985-1988/89. A vacuum where there is an overall shrinkage in the computer market as Commodore and Atari Corp both try to hawk their wares in Europe selling computers that had been on the market since 79/82. A Vacuum that would be filled by IBM and its army of clones by the end of the decade. A vacuum filled by IBM based on the sheer strength of its strangle hold on the educational, governmental, and business markets.
Your second bit is also a bit puzzling. It seems to be a repeated as if it was gospel for over a decade and yet nobody can present facts to back up the claim. If the gaming market had shifted to computers and people were buying them as you say, then surely the console market was a dead horse. Then where did the enthusiasm for the NES and Sega’s System for that matter come from? It’s a question that has never been satisfactorily answered by those who hold to the silly notion that computers had killed the console market of the pre-crash era. Surely if the market had shifted then we would see steady sales of the C64 and the Atari 8 bit line or the Amiga and ST going into 1986-87. But we don’t.
We must conclude that gaming audience that had moved to the computer market must be extremely niche to sustain the sales of 8 but computers in the United States.
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Edited by empsolo, Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:16 AM.