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#1 Paradroyd OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:38 PM

The Model 4 is great for modern telnet BBSing...

 

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Are there any telnet accessible BBSs out there that actually run on Z80-based TRS-80s these days?

 

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Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:09 PM

That's cool.  How are you going about doing it?

I'm still using dial up with my 1200 baud modem.



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Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 3:14 AM

Anyone have a link to buy a serial cable that attaches to the bottom of the model 4?

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Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 11:44 AM

That's cool.  How are you going about doing it?

I'm still using dial up with my 1200 baud modem.

 

I'm sure there are other solutions, but these are available:

 

You can use a wifimodem232 https://www.cbmstuff...=WiModem232OLED

 

Or maybe a M3SE http://bartlettlabs....M3SE/index.html

 

Of course the wifimodem232 is the cheaper option, you just need a serial cable and wifi at home.



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Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 8:55 PM

I bought mine from CBM stuff, but still need the cable

Edited by polyex, Sun Feb 4, 2018 8:56 PM.


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Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 8:15 AM

I bought mine from CBM stuff, but still need the cable

 

Full disclosure, I only use my Model 1 with the wifimodem232 and have never used it with my Model 4. I believe all you need though is a DB25 male to male flat ribbon serial cable. 

 

Some folks use this https://www.amazon.c...uct/B00ATV2DX2/ but I don't have any experience myself with it.



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Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:56 PM

The Model 4 is great for modern telnet BBSing...

 

 

I notice you are using a diskless TRS-80... are you using FreHD?



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Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 9:03 PM

That's cool.  How are you going about doing it?

I'm still using dial up with my 1200 baud modem.

 

I'm using the ANSI capable telnet client bundled with the M3SE. The M3SE has an Ethernet interface and comes with a full TCP/IP stack. Not cheap, but more than worth it for me for what it does.



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Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 9:12 PM

 

I notice you are using a diskless TRS-80... are you using FreHD?

 

M3SE, actually. This model 4 doesn't even have the floppy controller or serial port. It was originally the very low-end 16K model that someone upgraded to 64K. I found it in a electronics shop near here with a $30 price tag on it. Needed a bit of cleanup, but other than that it was in great shape. Lots more pics of it (inside & out) here.



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Posted Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:58 AM

 

M3SE, actually. This model 4 doesn't even have the floppy controller or serial port. It was originally the very low-end 16K model that someone upgraded to 64K. I found it in a electronics shop near here with a $30 price tag on it. Needed a bit of cleanup, but other than that it was in great shape. Lots more pics of it (inside & out) here.

 

http://bartlettlabs.com/makes a good product! I'm considering getting one of these for my Model 4, although right now I'm using a FredHD with it. I have the MISE and MIRE for my Model 1 and can't praise them enough! But they do cost a bit.

 

If you are really into the TRS-80 then I would say go for it.



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:11 AM

 
I believe all you need though is a DB25 male to male flat ribbon serial cable. 
 


Ended up ordering a $6.00 one shipped from Hong Kong, will take up to a month to arrive. Only USA seller I could find wanted nearly $50.00 for the same 2 foot cable. If anyone knows of a more reasonable USA seller please let me know.

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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 8:26 AM

Ended up ordering a $6.00 one shipped from Hong Kong, will take up to a month to arrive. Only USA seller I could find wanted nearly $50.00 for the same 2 foot cable. If anyone knows of a more reasonable USA seller please let me know.

 

There is always that guy in Australia, Ian Mavric, but his website has been down for a while now. I'm sure he could make one for you, he is not always known for cheap (as in cost) items either ;) What you get will work though as intended.

 

If you want a case for your wifi232 I can recommend: http://corei64.com/store/ I have one for my wifi232 with OLED and it fits great.

 

He uses those heat-set brass inserts so it closes up securely. Even supplies a little wrench to tighten it up.

 

It will come from Canada, so will be a week or so until it arrives. It was packed well inside a big box, and made it through the gauntlet that is USPS ;)



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 9:28 AM

 

Lots more pics of it (inside & out) here.

 

Thanks for sharing those photos.  It was a walk down memory lane for me as it's been YEARS since I owned or opened up a TRS-80.



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 3:44 PM

 

There is always that guy in Australia, Ian Mavric, but his website has been down for a while now. I'm sure he could make one for you, he is not always known for cheap (as in cost) items either ;) What you get will work though as intended.

 

If you want a case for your wifi232 I can recommend: http://corei64.com/store/ I have one for my wifi232 with OLED and it fits great.

 

He uses those heat-set brass inserts so it closes up securely. Even supplies a little wrench to tighten it up.

 

It will come from Canada, so will be a week or so until it arrives. It was packed well inside a big box, and made it through the gauntlet that is USPS ;)

 

 

Thanks for the heads up on the case. I checked the site and the $15.95 case costs $16.95 to ship!



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 PM

 

 

Thanks for the heads up on the case. I checked the site and the $15.95 case costs $16.95 to ship!

 

Yeah, but it came in a box much larger than needed and packed well to keep USPS from smashing it. I was worried since it was so small it would be crushed by the time it arrived.



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Posted Thu Feb 8, 2018 2:28 PM

I ended up ordering two as the shipping was the same

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Posted Thu Feb 8, 2018 9:44 PM

 

Thanks for sharing those photos.  It was a walk down memory lane for me as it's been YEARS since I owned or opened up a TRS-80.

 

Here are a few more. A few months later I added one of Ian Maverick's HiRes Graphyx boards. Here's the board installed with a few pics of it being used via TRS-Pic.



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Posted Fri Feb 9, 2018 8:07 AM

 

Here are a few more. A few months later I added one of Ian Maverick's HiRes Graphyx boards. Here's the board installed with a few pics of it being used via TRS-Pic.

 

That is cool! I want to get one of these but have been settling for using it in the TRS32 emulator for now ;) It's on my list though!



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Posted Fri Feb 9, 2018 8:08 AM

I ended up ordering two as the shipping was the same

 

Oh nice, did you get the one with the OLED screen? 



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Posted Fri Feb 9, 2018 9:12 AM

 

Oh nice, did you get the one with the OLED screen? 

 

Yes. I have a TRS-80 Model IV and a Ti99 both will be using the one with an OLED.



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Posted Fri Feb 9, 2018 9:51 AM

 

Yes. I have a TRS-80 Model IV and a Ti99 both will be using the one with an OLED.

 

Sounds good. I should have paid for two cases myself. I want to get a WiModem (non-232) version for my Commodore 64.



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Posted Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:45 PM

 

Here are a few more. A few months later I added one of Ian Maverick's HiRes Graphyx boards. Here's the board installed with a few pics of it being used via TRS-Pic.

 

Oh you guys are dangerous!  I'm so sitting on the fence right now, but space and practicality issues are holding me back.

 

BTW - If you don't mind me asking, how much of an investment (ON AVERAGE) do you think a Mod IV in great condition would cost with a hires board and a M3SE?



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:43 AM

 

Oh you guys are dangerous!  I'm so sitting on the fence right now, but space and practicality issues are holding me back.

 

BTW - If you don't mind me asking, how much of an investment (ON AVERAGE) do you think a Mod IV in great condition would cost with a hires board and a M3SE?

 

Are we talking a Model 4 with drives or without? On eBay you could get one with drives for $200 to $300 or so, plus shipping.

 

As far as the M3SE, you can get one for $275 if you go direct through the website: http://bartlettlabs....SE/pricing.html or $300 if you go through eBay.

 

The graphics board Ian Mavric sells is $99 on eBay but he does list "or best offer"  so I'm sure there is some wiggle room there if you want to try. Maybe you can get a discount by emailing him directly as well.

 

You might also want to get one of the auto-boot EPROMs he has available (bartlettlabs.com) if you get a M3SE. They are $15 for a non-gate array and $20 for a gate array model. I'm using one currently with a FreHD on my Model 4.



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 AM

Thanks for the info in the above message.  I've saved the above message link in my favorites.  I have a few things to consider now.   :)  :thumbsup: 

 



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Posted Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:18 PM

I have a graphics board from Ian and it is great, highly recommend. You can show "hi-res" pics on your TRS-80!







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