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#1 SoundGammon OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:54 PM

Notice the "!" with the name Warlords!.

 

Back when The Beatles were working on their movie HELP!, it was originally just called HELP, no explanation point. 

 

They were told that title was already used and couldn't use it. 

 

But what they did find out they could put an explanation point on it and it was now it was perfectly legal!

 

So now we shown be able to rename Medieval Mayhem to Warlords! 

 

Also change  Space Rocks to Asteroids!

 

Any legal minds want to weigh in on this?

 

Also how about Ataris name for TRAK BALL that they copyrighted but they can't touch TRACK BALL!

 

I think I will copyright the name "ATARI!" That would be fun for sure!

 

And there are those that "PICK-PIC-PICK"!  lol


Edited by SoundGammon, Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:18 PM.


#2 KaeruYojimbo ONLINE  

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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:14 PM

I completely stopped reading your post at the point where you called an exclamation mark an "explanation mark."



#3 Shawn OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:26 PM

I completely stopped reading your post at the point where you called an exclamation mark an "explanation mark."

 

ZING!



#4 fiddlepaddle OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:37 PM

So if you want to call a game Help!, you have to use Help!!

#5 SpiceWare ONLINE  

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Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:48 PM

Thanks, but no thanks.

#6 SoundGammon OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:49 AM

Thanks, but no thanks.

Don't want to change the names, I just used your great games as an example!

 

Anyone make anymore Starplex overlays for Space Rocks? 



#7 CRTGAMER OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:16 AM

Interesting work around, but maybe not worth the chance of a homebrew game being pulled due to the legal risk? Great story on the exclamation point in the Beatles Help movie. Funny in the response of a second exclamation point.

 

I before E except remove the C

I usually post TRAKBALL instead of the presumed correct spelling probably due to owning the 5200 version for decades. I sometimes post misspelled JOYSTIK as a tease to the arcade games magazine.



#8 x=usr(1536) OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:52 AM

So, taking this out to one of its logical extensions:

 

If I were to rework BattleZone as Battle^Zone, would that be 100% A-OK legit and above-board?

 

Also, would it be pronounced, "Battle-Carat-Zone" or "Battle-to-the-power-of-Zone?"

 

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#9 pacman000 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:58 AM

Close enough to cause confusion = Close enough to get sued.



#10 MrBeefy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:01 AM

Close enough to cause confusion = Close enough to get sued.


Yup the exclamation wouldn't be enough.

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Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:32 AM

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#12 vidak OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:05 AM

I like homebrew clones and ports having different names...

#13 Pac-Guy 26 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:14 PM

I for one would recommend using a name used in a different region, so Gradius for the 2600 would be Nemesis everywhere except Europe, where it would use Gradius. Lawyers from other countries can't touch you, from what I know. Unless you want it to be called Gatana, of course. (Gradius = Gladius, Gatana = Katana)



#14 pacman000 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:37 PM

How about this: Lord Wars, Zone Battle, Command Missile. ;)

#15 Schizophretard OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:54 AM

I prefer new names or going the other extreme of being as illegal as possible.



#16 carlsson OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:09 AM

The Beatles movie HELP! opened on July 29, 1965. That is 53.5 years ago. Would laws regarding trademarks and copyrights have remained unchanged for 50+ years?

 

From what I understand, the title Help had been registered for a movie in the making, but I don't find any on IMDb around that era. If that is correct and perhaps an important detail, it means you'd have to claim that Warlords, Asteroids, Battlezone etc don't already exist but are games under development, and that by adding an exclamation mark, your Asteroids! will be different from the other Asteroids which may hit the market in perhaps 6 months from now. Most likely you will have a hard time claiming those games don't already exist.



#17 Feralstorm OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:27 PM

I don't fully understand how trademarks work. but I KNOW they don't work like that! (<- Look, an explanation mark!)



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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:41 PM

I am totally re-releasing K.C. Munchkin! for the Odyssey2 as 'K.C. Munchkin'.

 

Pretty sure I'm in the clear on this one.  BTW: setting up Patreon for legal costs; it's unrelated, but kindly donate.



#19 Nathan Strum OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:50 PM

I am totally re-releasing K.C. Munchkin! for the Odyssey2 as 'K.C. Munchkin'.

 

Similarly, I plan on re-releasing Pitfall! and Kaboom! as Pitfall and Kaboom.

 

To be followed shortly thereafter with Pac-Man? and Galaxian?.



#20 Pac-Guy 26 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:01 PM

Remove one letter and change the gameplay and graphics slightly to accommodate it.

 

Asteroids. Remove the A and you get...Steroids! Kaizo Asteroids, anyone?



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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:04 PM

 

Similarly, I plan on re-releasing Pitfall! and Kaboom! as Pitfall and Kaboom.

 

To be followed shortly thereafter with Pac-Man? and Galaxian?.

I got dibs on Pac+Man



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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:00 PM

Ms? Pac/Man!



#23 KaeruYojimbo ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:28 PM

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Posted Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:37 PM

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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 12:03 AM

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