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#26 SoundGammon OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 12:38 AM

How about in a box with Atari! on it?



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 2:33 AM

If adding one punctuation character circumvents trademarks, I'm sure spelling backwards does too? Sdrolraw, Sdioretsa, Enozelttab, Treb*q, Oiram Repus, Adlez fo Dnegel...



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 12:17 PM

H.E.R.O. as H-E-R-O.



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 1:14 PM

H.E.R.O. as H-E-R-O.

 

 

Or Here - Oh!



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:30 PM

Looks like someone at Wal-Mart Walmart has been reading this thread. http://money.cnn.com...name/index.html



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:35 PM

There was a lawsuit going on around 20 years ago between two stores, one being Wawa, and the other being HaHa.  http://articles.mcal...rt-court-ruling



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Posted Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:53 PM

I guess the author of "Princess Rescue" picked a title TOO far away. If only it was simply "Super Mario Brothers" (y'know, specifically avoiding abbreviating that last word), there's no way Nintendo could have touched it.

 

Right?



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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:53 AM

Q@!#?@!Bert


You have won this thread.



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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 6:16 AM

I've been a major Beatles fan for thirty years, and I gotta be honest...this is the first time I ever heard anything about Help! not having a bang in the title versus having a bang in the title. The story always was that the original title was Eight Arms to Hold You -- and in fact, on most US pressings of the "Ticket to Ride" single, it actually says on the label that it's from Eight Arms to Hold You. (They never updated it for later pressings.)

But I've never heard of a movie called just Help instead of Help!; I'd love to see a source on this.

Plus, you cannot copyright a title. You can call your movie whatever the heck you wanna call it.

It's the content within that is copyrighted. If Medieval Mayhem were to be renamed Warlords!, it'd draw attention to itself. Unwanted attention.



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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 6:28 AM

I found a few sketchy sources on the Help vs Help! but none were detailed enough to warrant a link. Quite possibly it was more about not getting two movies mixed up, than one movie maker having claims over a title that just consists of a single, common English word. As I wrote, I didn't find any such movies on IMDb except for very short films and a full length one from 1920 which would've been over 40 years old at the time.

 

Nevertheless, I believe legislation around all these matters has been "improved" and more specific in the past 50 years so the Beatles example really is a weak one even if it would be fully correct as described.



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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 7:11 AM

To be safe, all new homebrews should be named Help!



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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 7:29 AM

I SO would play a game based on Help!...it can be done...keeping Ringo from being painted red and sacrificed...In fact, I can imagine an E.T. hack! Ringo being kidnapped and taken to the temple...

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Posted Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:46 PM

So, taking this out to one of its logical extensions:

 

If I were to rework BattleZone as Battle^Zone, would that be 100% A-OK legit and above-board?

 

Also, would it be pronounced, "Battle-Carat-Zone" or "Battle-to-the-power-of-Zone?"

 

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So, what benefit do you gain by "stealing" the name of a pre-existing game.  The only thing something like that tells me is that you are too lazy to come up with a unique name, and/or wish to confuse people as to what game it actually is.



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Posted Sat Feb 3, 2018 7:23 PM

 

 

So, what benefit do you gain by "stealing" the name of a pre-existing game.  The only thing something like that tells me is that you are too lazy to come up with a unique name, and/or wish to confuse people as to what game it actually is.

 

In my case, I just wanted an excuse to test that shift-6 on my keyboard still works.



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Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 5:25 AM

 

 

So, what benefit do you gain by "stealing" the name of a pre-existing game.  The only thing something like that tells me is that you are too lazy to come up with a unique name, and/or wish to confuse people as to what game it actually is.

 

If someone was to make a homebrew port of a pre-existing game and gave it the same name of the pre-existing game then I wouldn't be confused at all as to what the game actually is.



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Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:51 AM

Well, there go my plans for a home brew port of Rally-X. I was going to call it Joust!



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:30 PM

I've been a major Beatles fan for thirty years, and I gotta be honest...this is the first time I ever heard anything about Help! not having a bang in the title versus having a bang in the title. The story always was that the original title was Eight Arms to Hold You -- and in fact, on most US pressings of the "Ticket to Ride" single, it actually says on the label that it's from Eight Arms to Hold You. (They never updated it for later pressings.)

But I've never heard of a movie called just Help instead of Help!; I'd love to see a source on this.

Plus, you cannot copyright a title. You can call your movie whatever the heck you wanna call it.

It's the content within that is copyrighted. If Medieval Mayhem were to be renamed Warlords!, it'd draw attention to itself. Unwanted attention.

 

Ouch!

 



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Posted Thu Feb 8, 2018 1:51 PM

Sooo..  Dankey Kang is still available?



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Posted Thu Feb 8, 2018 2:13 PM

Dankey Kang !



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:27 AM

Come to think of it, Atari did the same thing themselves!

 

Circus was a arcade game by Exidy.

 

Atari copied the game and re-named it Circus Atari!

 

They were in the clear!



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:16 PM

Also, Activision re-made Atari's Drag Race arcade game as Dragster.



#47 Bryan OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:42 PM

#1 fact of IP law.

 

A party does not need to be right. A party only needs enough money to bleed the other party dry.



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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:46 AM

 

Ouch!

 

According to the book with the DVD of HELP!, the working title was "Beatles Two".  Richard Lester and the writers wanted to call it "Help". They were informed by copyright lawyers that someone else had registered that title. Ringo offered "Eight Arms to Hold You", relating to the multi-armed statue in the script. Not much enthusiasm to write a song with that title! A phone call to the lawyers and the lawyers asked if their title have an exclamation mark in it. They replied, "If it helps, we can have one". Since the other title didn't, they were in the clear!


Edited by SoundGammon, Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:49 AM.


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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:48 AM

Blink182 said their name was Blink until they found out another band had that name. I think this sort of thing is done mainly to avoid the hassle of opportunist lawsuits (by making the similarity less obvious) as opposed to avoiding a more legitimate lawsuit. Legitimate in the sense of being winnable, anyway.




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