+intellivotion Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) I confess, I've got inspired by this thread on the Atari 2600 section of the forum Anyway, I thought it could be cool to discuss the same topic here. 1. Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Cartridge (Cloudy Mountain) 2. Tron Deadly Discs 3. Tron Maze-A-Tron 4. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Treasure of Tarmin 5. Zaxxon 6. Demon Attack 7. Swords & Serpents 8. Sewer Sam (submarines in the sewer system... ) 9. Princess Quest 10. Space Raid 11. Tron Solar Sailor 12. Christmas Carol vs. The Ghost Of Christmas Presents depending on what we consider a boss in a game the list could be much longer, though ----------------------- EDIT: added Tron Solar Sailor and Christmas Carol Edited February 18, 2018 by intellivotion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 If you consider the MCP level in Tron Maze-A-Tron to be a boss battle, then wouldn't the MCP level in Tron Solar Sailor qualify, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 If you consider the MCP level in Tron Maze-A-Tron to be a boss battle, then wouldn't the MCP level in Tron Solar Sailor qualify, too? sure! I actually forgot about it, most likely because I've never had the pleasure to fight it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artrag Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Deep zone will have bosses ? Edited February 18, 2018 by artrag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 sure! I actually forgot about it, most likely because I've never had the pleasure to fight it I've done it and it isn't that pleasurable, but it is better than the Maze-A-Tron version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Deep zone will have bosses release it and we will put it in the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Does 50Shades (for the Intellivoice) count as having a boss level? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 For those wondering about the ROM http://atariage.com/forums/topic/232235-flashback-overlays-intellivision-productions-psycho-stormtrooper/page-35?do=findComment&comment=3178653 For those wondering why I'm asking, it has nothing to do with the reaction from the author when some test monkey found a roll-over bug. Nothing at all. <whistles nonchalantly> http://atariage.com/forums/topic/232235-flashback-overlays-intellivision-productions-psycho-stormtrooper/page-38?do=findComment&comment=3179369 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The last stage of Christmas Carol is intended to be a "Boss Level": It has a different enemy with slightly different mechanics, and completing it leads to winning the game. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The Dreadnaught Factor is nothing but bosses. I would play a mashup of some of these games, such as a turn-based Demon Attack with Tarmin's Minotaur at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Princess Quest has a boss in each world and there are five. Space Raid has a big robot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Would commando's End of stages battle's be considered bosses'? Edited February 18, 2018 by m-crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 The Dreadnaught Factor is nothing but bosses. (...) that's plenty of bosses but has no bosses' boss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The wizard is basically the boss of the Wizard Hunt scenario in Tower of Doom, since when you beat him, the scenario ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Kroz has good bosses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterZero Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Strictly speaking, while Swords & Serpents has a 'boss', there isn't a battle... - J 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMBerzerk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A few missing: Ice Trek Beauty and the Beast Tropical Trouble Night Stalker (Black Robot) Congo Bongo Shark Shark (the Shark) I don't think Swords and Serpents qualifies as a level boss as the Dragon does nothing and you can't kill it. Was a serious disappointment to me, so much so I wrote a letter to Imagic in total disgust. JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A few missing: Ice Trek Beauty and the Beast Tropical Trouble Night Stalker (Black Robot) Congo Bongo Shark Shark (the Shark) I don't think Swords and Serpents qualifies as a level boss as the Dragon does nothing and you can't kill it. Was a serious disappointment to me, so much so I wrote a letter to Imagic in total disgust. JR How are we defining a "boss battle"? If the same enemy exists in all levels, or if each level offers a different and harder enemy, does it really qualify as a "boss battle"? Are we saying that any game play with a defined antagonist is a "boss battle"? -dZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 How are we defining a "boss battle"? If the same enemy exists in all levels, or if each level offers a different and harder enemy, does it really qualify as a "boss battle"? Are we saying that any game play with a defined antagonist is a "boss battle"? -dZ. agreed A few missing: Ice Trek Beauty and the Beast Tropical Trouble Night Stalker (Black Robot) Congo Bongo Shark Shark (the Shark) I don't think Swords and Serpents qualifies as a level boss as the Dragon does nothing and you can't kill it. Was a serious disappointment to me, so much so I wrote a letter to Imagic in total disgust. JR Among the games you listed I think only Tropical Trouble has a true boss battle. Take a look at my avatar, if you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Strictly speaking, while Swords & Serpents has a 'boss', there isn't a battle... - J apart from jokes, that's a kind of psychological battle: the monster is gigantic and invincible, but still. And nonetheless, you have to find the way to get into its lair. It's the exact opposite of the story of Ulysses and the giant Polyphemus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 There is no way I would say Shark Shark has a boss. The shark is just an enemy that is constantly swimming around. you can play the game totally ignoring it. same goes for the little lobster/crab at the bottom. They can always kill you and there is only one way to kill it, but it is still not a boss. This game simply doesn't have levels for you to progress through, so no bosses. For Night Stalker, the robots are also just enemies for you to contend with. It would be boring to ignore them when playing the game, but they are not bosses that need to be killed to go to the next stage or to end the game. They change based on points and not based on a level. Plus you mentioned the Black Robot as being a boss, but wouldn't the Invisible Robot be more of a challenge? I'd imagine that you can play the game on the first robot and only kill the bats (while they are available) and kill tons of spiders ignoring the robot(s) until you have enough points to go directly to the invisible robot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 In Shark Shark, you can no longer ignore the shark once you reach 90k points. The shark that come out after 90k is relentless and very, very difficult if not impossible to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMBerzerk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Yup... should have been the invisible robot... sorry. Also, it's the same level boss distinction as Tron Deadly Discs .. you get to the orange enemy, but the game keeps going as long as you stay alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Tron Deadly Discs is a little bit on the fuzzy line. It can be decided either way. The Recognizer is a bit of a boss in that it only appears if certain conditions are met. It can be defeated, or it can kill you if you touch it, or it can immobilize you. After that boss has been dealt with in some regard, the game continues, but not to a new level. That is more of a boss than the orange people that come after a certain point level and stay there forever - meaning you don't battle them to progress to a new level in the game. So maybe Deadly Discs should be removed from the list since it doesn't have an end of game boss to defeat, or an end of the level boss to be conquered to go to the next level. There are not levels in this game. The points determine the difficulty, but if you never kill the easy enemies then the orange enemies never appear, and if you never complete any tunnels then the recognizers never appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Tron Deadly Discs is a little bit on the fuzzy line. It can be decided either way. The Recognizer is a bit of a boss in that it only appears if certain conditions are met. It can be defeated, or it can kill you if you touch it, or it can immobilize you. After that boss has been dealt with in some regard, the game continues, but not to a new level. That is more of a boss than the orange people that come after a certain point level and stay there forever - meaning you don't battle them to progress to a new level in the game. So maybe Deadly Discs should be removed from the list since it doesn't have an end of game boss to defeat, or an end of the level boss to be conquered to go to the next level. There are not levels in this game. The points determine the difficulty, but if you never kill the easy enemies then the orange enemies never appear, and if you never complete any tunnels then the recognizers never appear. I agree. That's like calling the pterodactyl in Joust a "boss level" or even the "cruisin' elroy" mode in Pac-Man as a "boss level." Those are harder enemies which are part of the mechanics of the normal game level. Let's face it, we can call "boss" almost anything, really. However, what we all mean by that are those special levels at the end of a game stage, which are specifically designed to be a gate to the next stage. They are typically different from all other enemies, they have special abilities or weapons, and are designed to be hard to kill. Beating them grants you access to progress through the game. It's not just a harder enemy. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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