Atari_Force Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Hello About the Cassette types, Any recommendation? (save/preservation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I would think you would want to stick with type 1 because that should be what the 1010 and similar tape drives for the Atari systems were made for. You don't want to mismatch cassette type with the player/recorder. I would think type 4 (metal) would be best for preservation, but worst for actual use in an Atari drive. There used to be kind of an urban legend that using a metal tape in a deck not made for it would wear out the heads really fast, but I'm not sure if that's actually true or if it was one of those hardware myths from back in the day. In any case, though, if the heads aren't made for a particular type of tape, you will get worse audio quality and that's just as true with a computer tape drive as an audio deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Use a quality Type I. Other formulations will be a mismatch and their main advantages (better response, dynamic range, etc...) don't matter in this application. Tape shouldn't be considered permanent and a digital copy should be made (and saved in a lossless format) as well. Something like the Maxell UR, Sony HF or TDK D range should be fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baktra Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 As Bryan stated, type I cassettes are good enough for the application. The Atari data recorders can read also type II cassettes (slightly exaggerated treble does not matter), but cannot record on them properly. I am not sure about type IV. The urban legend is just an urban legend. You cannot damage the tape. Of course, recording of type II cassette in a recorder that supports only type I will result in poor sound, but the tape is intact. When it comes to preservation, the tape type doesn't matter that much. What matters is the overall manufacturing quality that determines if the magnetic tape lasts for 20 years, or if it degrades to a nasty mush. The storage conditions matter very much too. Cassettes do not like high temperatures. How to determine good manufacturing quality? Get brands and models that have proven themselves over time. Again, as Bryan pointed out, Sony HF, Maxell UR, TDK D are a good choice. I would also add SONY FX, and mainstream BASF/EMTEC Ferro Extra cassettes. I am not sure of Audio PRO. You can also read this instructable. Sadly, it would appear that the only new cassettes available are Maxell UR-90. There are still companies selling tapes wound to a specific length too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 These days you must be happy to find more than one type anyway. Recently needed a cassette for an audio application and there was exactly one model for sale in the whole mall. The electronics superstore didn't carry them at all, the drugstore/supermarket had one type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The urban legend is just an urban legend. You cannot damage the tape. Of course, recording of type II cassette in a recorder that supports only type I will result in poor sound, but the tape is intact. Not the tape, the heads. I don't know if either is true, but I just want to make sure that if someone debunks this, they're debunking the actual myth and not misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 The surface of a metal tape is a bit more rough. Puts some extra wear on the head, noticeable after extended use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Two cents: I've never actually seen the metallic tapes irl, just black oxide. And I had a lot of cassettes growing up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I recommend buying type I tapes from Tape Line that Baktra linked above, and get tape lengths between 15-30 min. Longer tapes are extra weight for the deck and will wear out the motor of the Atari tape deck faster. Commercial software releases were done on the shorter tapes not just for money savings but for the reason above. I won't ever use the 60 min. or more tapes you can still purchase at some stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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