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#1 arcade124 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:47 AM

A bit of a noob question here, but I've never ordered from the site before and am extremely confused. I recieved the 1 MB MaxFlash today, but I didn't receive the adapter to load roms onto it. From what I've seen, this is supposed to be included and necessary for transferring roms onto it. Is there something I'm missing?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:23 AM

So, you ordered a 1MB cart AND the programmer and didn't get one of the TWO products ordered?

Or, you order the 1MB cart and didn't realize you needed to order the cart programmer?

All of the products are separate.

https://atarimax.com.../documentation/


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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:34 AM

If you already have a cable that links the Atari to use your PC as a drive, you can program the cartridge in the Atari and don't need the programmer unit.

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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:33 AM

Crap, didn't realize that. What's the point of having just the cartridge as an option, then? I can't find any kind of cable ports or anything on the cart.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:48 AM

First there was a perl application to build the xex files wanted into an ATR that is used to flash the MaxFlash cart.  And now there is a downloadable file called  Maxflash Cartridge Studio used to build the xex files into cartridge form ATR flashable with the Atari and a SIO2PC (SIO2SD,SDRIVE) and others..



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:08 AM

But how do I connect the cart physically? I can't find any cable ports or anything. Is there anywhere I can buy the programmer separately?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:24 PM

You can program the cart right in the computer. You just plug it in and boot a pre-built ATR that contains the flashing program and the image to be flashed.  You can download some from the Atarimax forum, or you can build your own with the studio software rdea6 mentioned.  One way to boot your computer from ATR images is with an SIO2PC or SIO2USB cable.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:37 PM

You program the cartridge using your Atari computer! How cool is that!!  You need a SIO2PC to program it, or you can also create an ATR disk image to write to a real disk and do it that way, but you need a way to copy the ATR to disk so might as well use the SIO2PC way!


Edited by tjlazer, Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:38 PM.


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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:22 PM

So I need an actual Atari computer? I thought you meant my computer I'm using now. Since I don't have an Atari computer, does that mean this is useless to me? Is there anywhere I can buy the programmer by itself?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:54 PM

I'm confused.  The only reason I can think of to own one of these carts, is to use it to run programs on a real Atari computer. How are you planning to use it?

 


Edited by JR>, Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:55 PM.


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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:58 PM

So is the USB programmer device only optional, not necessary?

I have a cart (SIC or maybe xegs ramcart) that you use software on your PC to create a list of games and then it compiles it into an .atr file. You then reboot with the cart in the slot, boot this new .atr file and it flashes the 'creation' to the cart

Is the maxflash a similar system?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:03 PM

So is the USB programmer device only optional, not necessary?

I have a cart (SIC or maybe xegs ramcart) that you use software on your PC to create a list of games and then it compiles it into an .atr file. You then reboot with the cart in the slot, boot this new .atr file and it flashes the 'creation' to the cart

Is the maxflash a similar system?

 

Exactly. As the .atr file is larger than any common "old" Atari storage medium you need some kind of "modern" storage solution (such as a SIO2SD or SIO2PC) for that .atr file. 



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:06 PM

many thanks for the info, it was the thought of needing the programmer that put me off

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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:31 PM

I'm confused.  The only reason I can think of to own one of these carts, is to use it to run programs on a real Atari computer. How are you planning to use it?

 

What I'm asking is: I have an XEGS. I bought the MaxFlash to play roms on it. Do I need the programmer to get the roms onto it, and if not, what other methods are there?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:35 PM

What I'm asking is: I have an XEGS. I bought the MaxFlash to play roms on it. Do I need the programmer to get the roms onto it, and if not, what other methods are there?

read a few of the posts several have this information.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:45 PM

to get the roms onto it use SIO2SD (device that connects from atari serial port to box with sdcard slot) or SIO2PC (device connects from atari serial port to PC)



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:53 PM

What I'm asking is: I have an XEGS. I bought the MaxFlash to play roms on it. Do I need the programmer to get the roms onto it, and if not, what other methods are there?

 

You have two options 

 

1) buy the optional programer

2) use an SIO2PC to program the cart via the XEGS 

 

Read the information on the ATARIMAX website 



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:07 PM

The XEGS IS a real Atari computer and can be used to program the cart.  You'd probably need the optional keyboard though.  Do you have the keyboard?



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:38 PM

A bit of a noob question here, but I've never ordered from the site before and am extremely confused. I recieved the 1 MB MaxFlash today, but I didn't receive the adapter to load roms onto it. From what I've seen, this is supposed to be included and necessary for transferring roms onto it. Is there something I'm missing?

You should read this post.  The first couple topics will be very helpful.

http://atariage.com/...s/#entry2199612



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:36 PM

 

You have two options 

 

1) buy the optional programer

2) use an SIO2PC to program the cart via the XEGS 

 

Read the information on the ATARIMAX website 

What I mean is, where can I buy the programmer by itself? I don't see it listed anywhere.

 

The XEGS IS a real Atari computer and can be used to program the cart.  You'd probably need the optional keyboard though.  Do you have the keyboard?

Unfortunately, no.



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:54 PM

https://www.atarimax.../documentation/



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:45 PM

The XEGS IS a real Atari computer and can be used to program the cart.  You'd probably need the optional keyboard though.  Do you have the keyboard?

Is the keyboard needed to boot an ATR to flash the cart?  To keep things simple he should just get the Atarimax programmer.  Once programmed, he can navigate the cartridge menu with the joystick.  But then a lot of games do use the keyboard for various functions, so it's not a bad idea to get one eventually.



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:03 PM

Is the keyboard needed to boot an ATR to flash the cart?  To keep things simple he should just get the Atarimax programmer.  Once programmed, he can navigate the cartridge menu with the joystick.  But then a lot of games do use the keyboard for various functions, so it's not a bad idea to get one eventually.

 

You need to verify that you want to proceed, so yes.  All you really need is Y, N and Enter, so it would probably be easy enough to modify the flasher to use left, right and fire as alternative inputs, for XEGS owners without a keyboard.



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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:05 AM

Ah, so the top listing is just the programmer, I thought it was a bundle for the programmer and the flash cart.



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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:25 PM

I recommend picking up a keyboard, there are a lot of games that make use of it. It will make your life a lot easier - failing that you can buy a TKII XEGS adaptor and use a ps2 keyboard




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