+therealbountybob Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Computer War vs Wargames You know the drill, missiles, mankind (Cactus Jack) save the Ataris from extinction, see that motivated you all Wargames Deteacher says "War Games is an awesome game with multiple skill levels. That alone would be enough of a challenge to last 2 weeks." Play through the skill levels from the default? Computer War trbb says "Always one of my pet favourites and now you all get to play it! Blast the incoming missiles first person stylee. Think this one has some great music too" NOTES: You can press [select] to rotate a block of squares to match the pattern block. [select[ also drops back to the map screen when in battle. It's game over if the NORAD HQ red dot is destroyed. Downloads Fandal: War Games and Computer War Transdisk 4.2 XT Menu of tape version of Computer War (and some other games) Transdisk 4.2 XT Menu - Computer War and others.ATR Info Atarimania: War Games and Computer War Full Manual for WarGames on bombjack.org Thanks carlsson my feeble hints on Post #15 ! Round ends Sunday the hmmth of thingemy 29th July 10am UK time More info will be added later [it has] Edited July 23, 2018 by therealbountybob War Games Manual Proper Link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 First try of computer war. Had the cartridge in the drawer but never tried it before. Should probably read the instructions! 1393 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Wargames, Skill 1: 85,870,000 for a warmup. Skill 2: 138,150,000 Edited July 15, 2018 by Deteacher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graywest Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) According to Wargames, the only way to win is not to play. Therefore, I am sitting this round out and I expect a full 12 points for being the winner. Just kidding, I'll get to it eventually. I did try Computer War - my first score is 1848. Edited July 16, 2018 by graywest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In case anyone needs instructions: Computer War has been uploaded to Atarimania, one page at a time. WarGames can be found on Bombjack (same instructions for both Atari 8-bit and C64) Since some sites may not like hotlinking, I'm linking to respective websites. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Ok, some early scores as well: Computer War - 212 pts WarGames (skill 1) - 27,560,000 pts Edited July 16, 2018 by carlsson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Ok, some early scores as well: Computer War - 212 pts WarGames (skill 1) - 27,560,000 pts only a puny 27 million and I thought it was these ere modern games that had crazy scoring! I always felt that our "10,000 and you've earned an extra life" mantra was hard earned and well deserved Looking forward to playing these two, I've been forcing myself to finish programming my abbuc game Ski-iT but it's hard going, that last 10% and all doesn't help that it's about 30 degrees here and we haven't seen any rain for a month plus the power went off this morning and is going off on Thursday for something or other too Don't be shy EVERYONE, JUST POST A SCORE, SCREENSHOTS OPTIONAL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Actually, I'm experiencing a bit of technical issues with Computer War. Both the version from Fandal, and three other versions on my SD card, randomly crashes in the first person shooter part. Not always, but frequently enough. I gotta try it in Altirra emulation (130XE PAL) to verify if it again is my machine that is having trouble or if the game itself really doesn't run well on said hardware. Edited July 16, 2018 by carlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Actually, I'm experiencing a bit of technical issues with Computer War. Both the version from Fandal, and three other versions on my SD card, randomly crashes in the first person shooter part. Not always, but frequently enough. I gotta try it in Altirra emulation (130XE PAL) to verify if it again is my machine that is having trouble or if the game itself really doesn't run well on said hardware. Try those on Atarionline.pl and homesoft if they are no good I can upload my menu disk image to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) The one on Fandal works 100% in Altirra, emulating a PAL 130XE... One of the versions I already tried was a Homesoft one. Edited July 16, 2018 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 CW 3433 its ok but i dont like the crappy shot that your plane? fires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Nope, I tried every single version from Atarionline as well as Homesoft. I don't know how many are the same file, but I'm up to 18 versions. At best I can get 5-6 minutes of play time before it freezes. I wonder if it has anything to do with SD2IEC. I might consider reflashing my Atarimax cartridge now that I'm done playing AtariBlast! for this time around, and see if I'm having similar issues from that one. Of course I could try to learn how to write a floppy disk from an ATR file and see if booting from floppy disk makes any difference. It reminds me about River Rescue which I also never got to work properly on my 130XE, but somehow I got it to play on my 800. Both River Rescue and Computer War are Thorn EMI titles. Perhaps I should try Submarine Commander and Soccer to see if my Atari is compatible with Thorn EMI games, as nearly everything else I throw at it is playable sooner or later. Edited July 16, 2018 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) WarGames Skill 1, Counter Strike Averted, 40,520,000 Skill 2, Counter Strike Averted, 50,700,000 Computer Wars 205 Edited July 21, 2018 by RedThunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Computer War I was right about the music, a recent Antic Interview was with the guy who worked there and did a lot of their music. 1027 an appropriately Atari score just before I wiped out mankind, probably the 1027 would survive and the reaction would have hardened and fixced the print head properly Carlsson / anyone having issues - I've imaged my transdisked tape version of Computer War - added to 1st post. (This works on my 130XE) First go on War Games (not read the instructions!) Counterstrike Averted! Strike Points 220k 6 Bases Saved 6m 7 Cities Saved 21m Total Score 27,220,000 Now to read the instructions!! Found a copy of the Coleco system's Instructions for War Games on gamesdatabase.org (pdf) also added to 1st post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Now to read the instructions!! Found a copy of the Coleco system's Instructions for War Games on gamesdatabase.org (pdf) also added to 1st post That helped, there's some hints on page 6/7 - in our version of War Games hold in fire and push in the direction of the weapon you want to activate, then aim it on the white enemy (sort of missile command style). To un-arm hold fire and move to the centre gap on the icon display . [edit: Looks like you can point them at the targets and return to the main map. You can pull the stick again to select another plane etc, not sure if you can control 2 at once or 2 types e.g. plane and sub at once?] Perhaps deteacher can give a few more hints?! Counterstrike Averted! Strike Points 640k 14 Bases Saved 14m 14 Cities Saved 42m Total Score 56,640,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I was just about to claim success, but after 9 minutes of playing the game froze again. I had a bit over 800 pts at the time. I'll try to put a version of Computer War on my Atari Max cartridge, in case it is the SIO2SD that is screwing something up. Unfortunately I've never got the SIO2SD to work on my Atari 800, otherwise I would try it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Ok, since my subtle hint where to find the manual to War Games may have been overlooked, I'll post a direct deep link after all: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/games/WarGames_Defense_Manual.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 First go at War Games, no idea what I'm doing yet! 29,330,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ok, since my subtle hint where to find the manual to War Games may have been overlooked, I'll post a direct deep link after all: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/games/WarGames_Defense_Manual.pdf Sorry yes that's much better - I've added this to the first post thankyou Improved on Computer War 2,056 - perhaps not as good as I remembered but it's satisfying when you them! War Games, no improvement so now I need to read the proper manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 If only I knew how to put an ATR image onto a physical floppy disk... I feel like a total newbie regarding this, and I've tried a half dozen different DOS and dedicated programs for disk copying without success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 That helped, there's some hints on page 6/7 - in our version of War Games hold in fire and push in the direction of the weapon you want to activate, then aim it on the white enemy (sort of missile command style). To un-arm hold fire and move to the centre gap on the icon display . [edit: Looks like you can point them at the targets and return to the main map. You can pull the stick again to select another plane etc, not sure if you can control 2 at once or 2 types e.g. plane and sub at once?] Perhaps deteacher can give a few more hints?! Counterstrike Averted! Strike Points 640k 14 Bases Saved 14m 14 Cities Saved 42m Total Score 56,640,000 Here's a tip for you all: Once you've sent a jet or a sub after an enemy, go back to the National Map. You don't have to wait for the enemy to be neutralized before leaving the screen. This is particularly helpful on the harder skill levels. Learn how to get in and out of a given sector as quickly as possible. Here are a couple more scores from me: Skill 3: 180,060,000 Skill 4: 252,460,000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) If only I knew how to put an ATR image onto a physical floppy disk... I feel like a total newbie regarding this, and I've tried a half dozen different DOS and dedicated programs for disk copying without success. I'm sure we can help here - what system have you got for linking the PC to the Atari - I use APE ,either way you would need to do this, in this order: 1. On APE (or the PC Atari software) Mount [Drive 2 ]with the source (game) disk * 2. Then boot the Atari [Drive 1] with your favourite disk copier (any should do but mycopyr2.1 or sectorcopy1.5 are good single pass copiers) 3. Swap the disk in [Drive 1] to the blank destination disk! 4. Set copier to copy from drive 2 to drive 1 and format it. (If you don't have the option to format it do it first manually.) *Mycopyr for example will not detect the PC drive if it's not mounted first. I think the copiers scan the drives when they start so If you tried to boot one from a mounted drive 1, then, unmount it and then power on the real drive it would not work. (There may be one that works this way or even DOS might) You can find mycopy2.1 and sectorcopy1.5 and tons of other utilities on the Holmes site. You will obviously need to get one of the copiers onto a real disk first so you might use DOS option "J" to do the copy. Seson 15 Current Standings Updated Edited July 21, 2018 by therealbountybob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Cw 4350. Very annoying i had one base left on the 6 base round and i was still at defcon 5. If you lose that last base you dont go to defcon 4 its just game over! Edit on this, its if you lose NORAD its game over, if the lose the last base you move on to the next level Edited July 23, 2018 by McKong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Cw 4350. Very annoying i had one base left on the 6 base round and i was still at defcon 5. If you lose that last base you dont go to defcon 4 its just game over! That's a great score McKong Wonder if that's the last level, maybe the game has an ending I've just read the Computer War manual as I couldn't match a block of squares and thought you could rotate them (probably not needed on the first round)... you can... PRESS SELECT to rotate a block Select also drops back to the map at any time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 No i got to 8 bases to save on a previous go. It goes 4, 6, 8. The number and speed of the attacking missiles increases each time you remove a base seemingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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