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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2018 8:56 PM

So I finally pulled the old beast out of mothballs.  Found one dead memory card and one dead floppy drive, but it works otherwise.

 

I have it running with an RS232 connection to my Windows 10 machine.

 

When I get my new SAMS memory card I will be ready to run CAMEL99 Forth on real hardware for the second time in history (that I know of)

(Speccery ran the kernel on a FPGA machine some time back.)

 

So... what are my options to get binary software to the TI-99?

 

I don't have a floppy drive on the Wintel machine anymore  :?

 

I can envision a program running on the 99 and sending data over the serial connection but haven't found anything like that yet for binary data.

Not sure I can make a program image from BASIC. (?)



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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2018 9:08 PM

 

So... what are my options to get binary software to the TI-99?

 

 

This solution might interest you.

 



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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2018 9:29 PM

 

This solution might interest you.

 

 

That looks super. Tell me what is included or where I can read more.

 

Thanks



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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2018 9:38 PM

 

That looks super. Tell me what is included or where I can read more.

 

Thanks

 

No problem.  << HERE >> is some more information.

 

You can also buy one << HERE >>.



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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2018 10:23 PM

So I have the HDX server running now and I see that it can operate at 9600 bps.

All I need is a program in the TI to handle the communication on that side... but that's my problem. 

 

I need a 5.25" floppy disk with the program on it. :-)



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:41 AM

So I have the HDX server running now and I see that it can operate at 9600 bps.

All I need is a program in the TI to handle the communication on that side... but that's my problem. 

 

I need a 5.25" floppy disk with the program on it. :-)

 

Hopefully someone reading this will be able to help you out, you could probably hit up arcadeshopper too.

 

There is also the P-Box TIPI that does things without the need for programs on diskette, or even a disk drive or floppy controller!



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:38 AM

 

Hopefully someone reading this will be able to help you out, you could probably hit up arcadeshopper too.

 

There is also the P-Box TIPI that does things without the need for programs on diskette, or even a disk drive or floppy controller!

 

Thank you.

 

I will look into that as well.



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:25 AM

Several ways to get files from your PC to your TI.  

 

1.) Get a WiFI232 modem that uses the internet Telnet protocol.  Upload files to a BBS like mine, or Tim's, or Chris's, and download them back to your system.

2.) Get a Lotharek HxC drive and place the files in an HFE image, then take that image on a SD card and plug into the Lotharek emulator for floppies on the TI side.

3.) Get a TIPI.  Probably the most practical.  Requires both the TIPI and a Raspberry PI,  The PEBox version was just released and production rate is tied to Matt's (developer) time to build the cards.  It will take some time to meet immediate demands.

4.) FC5025 device allowing you to plug a floppy drive into your PC.  Probably the most complicated route.

5.) If you have a very old PC, there is TI99-PC by Ralph Nabet.  Best with a MS-DOS machine.

 

Again, the TIPI route is probably the simplest of all once you get a handle on it if you want to run TI programs you have on a PC on a TI-99/4A.

 

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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:26 AM

So I have the HDX server running now and I see that it can operate at 9600 bps.

All I need is a program in the TI to handle the communication on that side... but that's my problem. 

 

I need a 5.25" floppy disk with the program on it. :-)

 

38400 .. fred's clients have their own flow control

 

I have a write up on how to do this with a standard serial card and a straight through cable, you can load and run ea5 from hdxs now.. and copy files to local drives..

 

This is clearly linked in the FAQ pinned post in this forum. As is a lot of other interesting information including a section on how to copy files to your TI from your PC.  :)    If anything's missing there please let me know so I can add it. 

 

I sell the modified serial cards (when I have them to modify, stock is hard to find at a reasonable price..) also I can convert your card if you aren't up to doing it yourself, it's not a hard solder job just takes desoldering the ROM from the rs232..  at arcadeshopper.com



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:27 AM

Several ways to get files from your PC to your TI.  

 

1.) Get a WiFI232 modem that uses the internet Telnet protocol.  Upload files to a BBS like mine, or Tim's, or Chris's, and download them back to your system.

2.) Get a Lotharek HxC drive and place the files in an HFE image, then take that image on a SD card and plug into the Lotharek emulator for floppies on the TI side.

3.) Get a TIPI.  Probably the most practical.  Requires both the TIPI and a Raspberry PI,  The PEBox version was just released and production rate is tied to Matt's (developer) time to build the cards.  It will take some time to meet immediate demands.

4.) FC5025 device allowing you to plug a floppy drive into your PC.  Probably the most complicated route.

5.) If you have a very old PC, there is TI99-PC by Ralph Nabet.  Best with a MS-DOS machine.

 

Again, the TIPI route is probably the simplest of all once you get a handle on it if you want to run TI programs you have on a PC on a TI-99/4A.

 

Beery

 

TIPI is the easiest, hdxS with a standard serial card is the fastest as all you need is a rs232 port on your pc, a straight through cable and to follow instructions.



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:28 AM

So I have the HDX server running now and I see that it can operate at 9600 bps.

All I need is a program in the TI to handle the communication on that side... but that's my problem. 

 

I need a 5.25" floppy disk with the program on it. :-)

 

I sell disks on arcadeshopper.com 



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:21 PM

 

I sell disks on arcadeshopper.com 

 

I ordered a magic FM disk. It sounded like it would run on my very stock 99.

 

I got the sense that I need the full HDX mod to use the PC server.

 

If there is another disk I should try with a regular serial card I will gladly pay for that too.  Let me know what I owe by PM and include with my order please.

 

Is that possible?

 

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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:27 PM

Several ways to get files from your PC to your TI.  

 

1.) Get a WiFI232 modem that uses the internet Telnet protocol.  Upload files to a BBS like mine, or Tim's, or Chris's, and download them back to your system.

2.) Get a Lotharek HxC drive and place the files in an HFE image, then take that image on a SD card and plug into the Lotharek emulator for floppies on the TI side.

3.) Get a TIPI.  Probably the most practical.  Requires both the TIPI and a Raspberry PI,  The PEBox version was just released and production rate is tied to Matt's (developer) time to build the cards.  It will take some time to meet immediate demands.

4.) FC5025 device allowing you to plug a floppy drive into your PC.  Probably the most complicated route.

5.) If you have a very old PC, there is TI99-PC by Ralph Nabet.  Best with a MS-DOS machine.

 

Again, the TIPI route is probably the simplest of all once you get a handle on it if you want to run TI programs you have on a PC on a TI-99/4A.

 

Beery

 

Thanks for that complete rundown Beery.

 

I have my old DOS machine here with an FTP server on it so I could transfer files to the DOS PC, make floppies and then put then in the 99. LOL.

That's kind of fun!.

 

In the meantime I will try Xmodem and HyperTerminal and see what happens with MAGIC FM. (If I understand it correctly)

And probably eventually I will go with the high speed server concept via my WIN10 machine.

 

The journey continues...



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:46 PM

 

I ordered a magic FM disk. It sounded like it would run on my very stock 99.

 

I got the sense that I need the full HDX mod to use the PC server.

 

If there is another disk I should try with a regular serial card I will gladly pay for that too.  Let me know what I owe by PM and include with my order please.

 

Is that possible?

 

B

 

https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/File-Transfer/c/15846005/offset=0&sort=nameAsc select add to previous order

 

Greg



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:21 PM

I am not seeing an option to add to previous order.

 

Using MS Edge. Is that a problem?



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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:25 PM

The Extended BASIC 2.7 Suite includes CFHDX which I use to transfer to/from my PC.  Works a treat, and with a finished UserGROM board coming from arcadeshopper and acadiel's gracious help I will be building one with HDX over Bluetooth.



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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:41 AM

I am not seeing an option to add to previous order.

 

Using MS Edge. Is that a problem?

 

is that a trick question?

 

its in the shipping option.. you just place a new order and for shipping add to previous



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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:01 PM

 

is that a trick question?

 

its in the shipping option.. you just place a new order and for shipping add to previous

 

Lol,

 

No I was looking in the wrong place.

 

I will get that in to you now.  Paid for it already.



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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:17 PM

 

is that a trick question?

 

its in the shipping option.. you just place a new order and for shipping add to previous

 

Ok I look at the site with Safari this time.

 

I can't see an add to previous option for shipping.

 

?



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Posted Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:23 AM

You can also get an UberGROM with a Bluetooth board and then use your PC to move stuff back and forth with UberHDX (which is like DM2K for the UberGROM with serial).

 

http://atariage.com/...276592-uberhdx/

 

Works rather well.  






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