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#1 pollyisagoodbird OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:24 AM

So I want to get data tapes for my 600XL, but XC12 tape recorders are easily over $100! I'm a total cheapskate, so I was wondering if there's any chance of an alternative. Will a plain old audio cassette  player do if I have the right hookups for it? And if not, what are some cheaper alternatives?



#2 Fred_M ONLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:28 AM

No sorry, you cannot use a regular tape deck. You should probably check European suppliers. In Europe The XC12 (and the 1010) are nowhere near $ 100



#3 Nezgar OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:43 AM

In August 2018 I got one skrinkwrapped NIB from Best Electronics:

1  boxed Atari XC12 program recorder - $USD 59.95

#4 1050 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:34 AM

While I can report that I did have full success using
as you put it "a plain old audio cassette player".
Within reason, any suitable player can be made to work
if you operate the MOTOR signal manually which is the
main advantage a genuine Atari deck will give you.

"Right" hook ups was a couple of wires, one grounding
both systems together and the other was a jumper from
speaker out on the player to SIO audio, pin 11 J1.

For playback only then, not easy, but still doable.

I never did much tape creation however, it was mostly
reading prerecorded tapes. And long after posting, the
testing of this file.

http://atariage.com/...n/#entry1565431

#5 Gunstar OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:03 AM

1010's and 410's sell for pretty cheap on Ebay, compared to $100 or $60 from Best Electronics. and either of them will work too, the bonus with the 1010 is it actually will match your computer...and I think it's the most reliable, at least one of the versions, I forget which...most times if they don't work it's broken or stretched belt, and those are still available on ebay and other places too, I just replaced my 1010's belt about a month ago. The only advantage to the XC12 model I know of is it can use power from the SIO instead of needing it's own PSU, Otherwise it's the most cheaply constructed model...no experience with them myself if that means less reliable, but definitely easier to break physically.


Edited by Gunstar, Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 AM.


#6 Mclaneinc OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:34 AM

OT: Love the avatar Gunstar, trying to work out if its the Close Encounters Mothership or an 800 :)



#7 manterola OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:53 PM

1010's and 410's sell for pretty cheap on Ebay, compared to $100 or $60 from Best Electronics. and either of them will work too, the bonus with the 1010 is it actually will match your computer...and I think it's the most reliable, at least one of the versions, I forget which...most times if they don't work it's broken or stretched belt, and those are still available on ebay and other places too, I just replaced my 1010's belt about a month ago. The only advantage to the XC12 model I know of is it can use power from the SIO instead of needing it's own PSU, Otherwise it's the most cheaply constructed model...no experience with them myself if that means less reliable, but definitely easier to break physically.

I would like to add that I have had bad experiences with Hong Kong 1010s. I got two, both with a common problem of a broken little plastic gear. I have the versions with the trick flat belt.

I recommend the Japan made 1010. You can recognize it by the orange sticker in the cassette compartment. You just replace the belt with a cheap one you can get from eBay and that's it.

#8 Gunstar OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 PM

I have the Japanese model and it has been working great for many, many years until just a month or so ago when the belt finally stretched out just a bit to much to work properly, I replaced it and it works perfectly again. But thanks for reminding me Manterola,which I had and which is the one to avoid.



#9 Gunstar OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:25 PM

OT: Love the avatar Gunstar, trying to work out if its the Close Encounters Mothership or an 800 :)

I'm glad you like it, because I was planning on doing something similar to another particular Atari computer that I think you will also appreciate...so stay tuned...  ;)


Edited by Gunstar, Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:27 PM.


#10 Mclaneinc OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:11 AM

Lol....My tuning has been stayed!







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