+davidcalgary29 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 From MyAtari's current "Super Pac-Man" eBay auction: We have Commando, Midi Maze, Xenophobe, Mat Mania, Bruce Lee, Picnic Paranoia, ETC in the works. The games were completed by Atari and scheduled to be released under the XE label. They will not work on the original Atari Proto Test cartridge and require a special Super Cartridge board like the XE Games come on. Hope to have time to release them soon. Not that "Bruce Lee" and "Picnic Paranoia" (huh?) haven't been released already, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Someone at AGE (don't remember who exactly) told me about MIDI Maze having been recently found. I'm dumbfounded as to why Atari developed it for the A8 and called it MIDI Maze, but I would REALLY like to see it! I'm wondering if it supports networking, and how. BTW, any of you familiar with Maze of Agdagon (sp?)? Not sure if that name is right, but it's similar to MIDI Maze and supported networking through the joystick ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I think MIDI Maze has been "out there" for some time now. Also Commando, Xenophobe, Mat Mania Challenge, Mean 18 among others. It would be fun to find a Picnic Paranoia cartridge with a 1987 or 1988 copyright... So, after Epyx, Electronic Arts, Broderbund Software, it seems Atari bought the rights to Synapse Software and Datasoft games. Talk about being cheap... How about some more speculation on unreleased software? Maybe I'm being optimistic but I assume these titles exist (or have existed) in a more or less finished form: Access - 10th Frame Atari - Elevator Action - Jungle River Cruise - Pole Position II - Sinistar - TumbleWeeds - Warlords - educational titles Electronic Arts - Adventure Construction Set - Skyfox LucasFilm Games - Labyrinth Romox - many... ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 PP II, Elevator Action and Sinistar - Anyone ahve screenshots or any more info on these! Id like to see more about Xenophobe also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted July 31, 2003 Author Share Posted July 31, 2003 I think MIDI Maze has been "out there" for some time now. Also Commando, Xenophobe, Mat Mania Challenge, Mean 18 among others. It would be fun to find a Picnic Paranoia cartridge with a 1987 or 1988 copyright... So, after Epyx, Electronic Arts, Broderbund Software, it seems Atari bought the rights to Synapse Software and Datasoft games. Talk about being cheap... How about some more speculation on unreleased software? Maybe I'm being optimistic but I assume these titles exist (or have existed) in a more or less finished form: Access - 10th Frame Atari - Elevator Action - Jungle River Cruise - Pole Position II - Sinistar - TumbleWeeds - Warlords - educational titles Electronic Arts - Adventure Construction Set - Skyfox LucasFilm Games - Labyrinth Romox - many... ++ RC ++ Some of those games are, indeed, out there -- but I'm just pleased that they'll see a general release instead of remaining in the hands of individual collectors (who are most welcome to their protos. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 From MyAtari's current "Super Pac-Man" eBay auction: We have Commando, Midi Maze, Xenophobe, Mat Mania, Bruce Lee, Picnic Paranoia, ETC in the works. The games were completed by Atari and scheduled to be released under the XE label. They will not work on the original Atari Proto Test cartridge and require a special Super Cartridge board like the XE Games come on. Hope to have time to release them soon. Not that "Bruce Lee" and "Picnic Paranoia" (huh?) haven't been released already, but still... Hopefully we'll get some screen shots and details on the specifics of these titles.. People tend to hoard information about XEGS and 7800 prototypes like a Doberman with a raw steak. Wish people that had access to these prototypes were open like Lynx, Jaguar, 5200 and 2600 fans. :-( I wanna see the 7800 Electrocop and the XEGS version of MIDI MAZE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I'm dumbfounded as to why Atari developed it for the A8 and called it MIDI Maze Uhm, maybe because it was a port of the ST game "MIDI Maze"? Of course, on all the other systems it was released for they changed the name to "Faceball 2000". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I can say that I've personally seen MIDI Maze and Mean 18, and I have good info on a few of the others on that list. Unfortunately I don't own any of these so I can't release them (or I would). Hopefully they will be at the very least reviewed soon as it would be nice to at least see pictures of these games. I know one problem that's holding up a few of them is that they use some kind of strange XE board (a regular board and a daughter card of some type I think), which is hard to dump. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I can say that I've personally seen MIDI Maze ... Was it possible anyhow to connect the XE version with the St version? Hey, that would be the second inter-ATARI game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Was it possible anyhow to connect the XE version with the St version? I have no idea, I didn't actually get to play it but I wouldn't think so. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiliteZoner Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Atari800Win has kaillera support. I would assume you could play Midi Maze multiplayer with that. Unfortunately it would most definetly be two player only. What a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 PP II, Elevator Action and Sinistar - Anyone ahve screenshots or any more info on these! Pole Position II and Elevator Action were in some late Atari catalogs and also announced by Datasoft. I have Elevator Action as RX8070. I saw Sinistar mentioned in another catalog, don't remember where... Id like to see more about Xenophobe also There was a review of this unreleased version in Atari Explorer. I have it as RX8118 (MIDI Maze is RX8124). ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 I can say that I've personally seen MIDI Maze and Mean 18, and I have good info on a few of the others on that list. More please Hopefully they will be at the very least reviewed soon as it would be nice to at least see pictures of these games. What do you mean when you say "reviewed"? I know one problem that's holding up a few of them is that they use some kind of strange XE board (a regular board and a daughter card of some type I think), which is hard to dump. I remember Commando has this special board. ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted July 31, 2003 Author Share Posted July 31, 2003 I can say that I've personally seen MIDI Maze and Mean 18, and I have good info on a few of the others on that list. More please Hopefully they will be at the very least reviewed soon as it would be nice to at least see pictures of these games. What do you mean when you say "reviewed"? I know one problem that's holding up a few of them is that they use some kind of strange XE board (a regular board and a daughter card of some type I think), which is hard to dump. I remember Commando has this special board. ++ RC ++ I recall hearing about "Midi Maze" at a meeting of TAF (Toronto Atari Federation) in the early '90s, and know that people were distributing it in the club at that time. Could Atari Canada have received advance copies of some games and released them locally in small quantities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jindroush Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Hi, just my 2c: 1) The 'daughter board' is nothing special - just a replacement of 128k EPROM fitting into Atari ROM socket. Dumping should be as easy as dumping standard XEGS cartridge - see my pages how to do it (shameless plug ) 2) Re listing some proto RX numbers. See my pages for _almost_ complete list of Atari cartridges, including these (another shameless plug ) 3) Midi Maze got it name from the Midi<->Midi comm interface (MIDIMATE). I was said (and the menu shows it) that it allowed comm with the big brother (read ST version). It also allows playing on XM301, SX212 and a generic R: handler and also a solo mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Holy **** (censored)! Never noticed you had all the serial numbers! Where did you get that list from? Still missing: CXL4014 (unreleased Mailing List?) CXL4017 CXL4023 RX8027 (Berzerk?) ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jindroush Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Never noticed you had all the serial numbers! Where did you get that list from? From a friend. Thank you again, friend! Still missing: CXL4014 (unreleased Mailing List?) CXL4017 CXL4023 RX8027 (Berzerk?) I was told that Mailing List is a cassette of CX4014 serial (hint, hint, nudge, nudge Other's are unknown until proved otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Ok I must be blind because I dont see the RX numbers in a nice list on your page. CXL4014 (unreleased Mailing List?) I was told that Mailing List is a cassette of CX4014 serial (hint, hint, nudge, nudge Yes I believe that the cassette number got mixed up with the cartridge number. Given the nature of the program (create and store addresses) why would Atari put it on cartridge? They would had to add some kind of battery to store the data or require a tape. It would make more sense to release it as a disk or tape (which they did). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Yes I believe that the cassette number got mixed up with the cartridge number. Given the nature of the program (create and store addresses) why would Atari put it on cartridge? They would had to add some kind of battery to store the data or require a tape. It would make more sense to release it as a disk or tape (which they did). Makes sense Direct link: http://www2.asw.cz/~kubecj/acdpcat.htm ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jindroush Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Ok I must be blind because I dont see the RX numbers in a nice list on your page. To make the navigation easier I need some input - where did you get lost? It's HOME -> Atari -> Dumping Project -> 4th (or so) link from the bottom (called List of Atari Carts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jindroush Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Given the nature of the program (create and store addresses) why would Atari put it on cartridge? Why did the OSS produce Writer's Tool then? (I probably don't understand about what is that cartridge...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 For all you completists out there... Still lots of stuff missing though... ATARI US - DISKS _ CX8100 * 5 Blank Diskettes CX8101 CX8102 * Calculator CX8103 CX8104 * Master Diskette II CX8105 CX8106 * Bond Analysis CX8107 * Stock Analysis CX8108 * Stock Charting CX8109 CX8110 CX8111 CX8112 CX8113 CX8114 CX8115 CX8116 CX8117 CX8118 CX8119 CX8120 CX8121 * Atari Macro Assembler and Program Text Editor CX8122 CX8123 CX8124 CX8125 CX8126 * Atari Microsoft BASIC I CX8127 CX8128 CX8129 * Home Filing Manager CX8130 * Caverns of Mars CX8131 CX8132 CX8133 CX8134 CX8135 * My First Alphabet CX8136 CX8137 * Juggles' Rainbow CX8138 * Juggles' House DX5047 * Timewise DX5048 * Paint DX5049 * VisiCalc DX5050 * Mickey in the Great Outdoors DX5051 DX5052 * Master Diskette 3 DX5053 * Peter Pan's Daring Escape [aka Captain Hook's Revenge] DX5054 DX5055 DX5056 DX5057 DX5058 DX5059 DX5060 DX5061 DX5062 DX5063 DX5064 DX5065 DX5066 DX5067 DX5068 DX5069 DX5070 DX5071 DX5072 DX5073 DX5074 DX5075 DX5076 * FutureMakers - Through the Star Bridge DX5077 * FutureMakers - This Is Ground Control DX5078 DX5079 DX5080 DX5081 * Music Painter DX5082 * Silent Butler DX5083 DX5084 * Star Raiders II DX5085 DX5086 DX5087 * XEP80 Boot Disk DX5088 DX5089 * SX Express! DX50?? * Mysteries of Wonderland AX2020 * AtariMusic I AX2021 AX2022 AX2023 AX2024 AX2025 * Atari Microsoft BASIC II AX2026 * AtariMusic II AX2027 AX2028 AX2029 AX2030 AX2031 AX2032 AX2033 * Proofreader AED80001 * Spelling in Context 1 AED80002 * Spelling in Context 2 AED80003 * Spelling in Context 3 AED80004 * Spelling in Context 4 AED80005 * Spelling in Context 5 AED80006 * Spelling in Context 6 AED80007 * Spelling in Context 7 AED80008 * Spelling in Context 8 AED80009 * Math Facts and Games AED80010 * Concentration AED80011 * Division Drill AED80012 AED80013 * AtariLab Starter Kit AED80014 * AtariLab Light Module AED80015 AED80016 * US Geography [1] AED80017 * US Geography [2] AED80018 AED80019 AED80020 * Secret Formula - Elementary AED80021 * Secret Formula - Intermediate AED80022 * Secret Formula - Advanced AED80023 AED80024 AED80025 AED80026 AED80027 AED80028 AED80029 AED80030 AED80031 AED80032 AED80033 * Screen Maker AED80034 * Player Maker AED80035 AED80036 AED80037 AED80038 AED80039 AED80040 AED80041 AED80042 AED80043 AED80044 AED80045 AED80046 AED80047 * Instructional Computing Demo AED80048 * Music I AED80049 * Music II AED80050 * Music III AED80051 * Elementary Biology AED80052 * Earth Science AED80053 * Geography AED80054 * Prefixes AED80055 * Metric and Problem Solving AED80056 * Market Place AED80057 * Basic Arithmetic AED80058 * Graphing AED80059 * Pre-Reading AED80060 * Counting AED80061 * Book - Software for your Atari AED80062 * Book - Atari Games and Recreations AED80063 AED80064 AED80065 AED80066 * Expeditions AED80067 * Spelling Bee AED80068 AED80069 * Word Games ACW200 * CodeWriter CWA200 * AdventureWriter CWH200 * FileWriter CWM200 * MenuWriter CWR200 * ReportWriter CWBI200 * Small Business Inventory CWHI200 * Home Integrator CWRI200 * Retail Invoice CWRP200 * Accounts Receivable / Payable CWSE200 * Salesman's Expenses CWSV200 * Star Voyage ATARI US - MISCELLANEOUS STUFF _ BX4201 * Atari Home Computers Three-Ring Binder BX4202 * 1025 Ribbon BX4203 BX4204 * 1020 Color Pen Replacement BX4205 BX4206 * 1020 Black Pen Replacement BX4207 * 1020 Roll Paper BX4208 * LOGO Manuals BX4209 BX4210 BX4211 BX4212 * 1027 Ink Roller BX4213 BX4214 BX4215 BX4216 * 600XL/800XL Service Contract BX4217 * 1400XL Service Contract BX4218 * 1450XLD Service Contract CO14062 * 820 Paper CO14746 * TV Switch Box CO14762 * 820 Operator's Manual CO14854 * 820 Ribbon CO15307 * BASIC Reference Manual CO15506 * 825 Operator's Manual CO15954 * 822 Operator's Manual CO16087 * 825 Ribbon CO16233 * 825 Paper CO16345 * 822 Paper CO16347 * 810 DOS II Reference Manual CO16376 * 822 Paper CO16555 * Revision B 400/800/1200XL Technical Reference Notes CO17809 * PILOT Primer CO17811 * Student PILOT Reference Guide CO17651 * 850 Operator's Manual CO17652 * 850 Technical Manual CO17668-09 * Atari Connection - Spring 1983 CO17668-10 * Atari Connection - Summer 1983 CO17668-11 * Atari Connection - Autumn 1983 CO17668-12 * Atari Connection - Winter 1983 CO17711 * Atari 400 Owner's Guide CO17893 * OS Source Listing CO17894 * DOS Utilities Source Listing CO17964 * Power Adapter CO60054 * Introduction to DOS CO60055 * Atari 410 Owner's Guide CO60056 * Atari 810 Owner's Guide CO60057 * Atari 800 Owner's Guide CO60992 * Inside Atari BASIC CX21 * Touch Pad CX22 * Trak-Ball [1st version] CX30 * Paddle CX40 * Joystick CX41 * Joystick Repair Kit CX42 * Remote Control Joystick CX43 * Space Age Joystick CX60 * Ultimate Joystick CX70 * Light Pen CX75 * Light Pen CX77 * Touch Tablet CX80 * Trak-Ball [2nd version] CX81 * Atari I/O Data Cord CX82 * Monitor Cable (Black & White) CX85 * Numeric Keypad CX86 * Printer Cable CX87 * Interface-MODEM Cable CX88 * Interface-Terminal Cable CX89 * Monitor Cable (Color) CX405 * PILOT CX415 * Home Filing Manager CX418 * Home Manager CX421 * Family Finances CX488 * The Communicator CX852 * 8K RAM Module CX853 * 16K RAM Module KX7097 * Atari LOGO KX7098 * Atari Accountant KX7099 * BASIC Tutor I KX7102 * Arcade Champ KX7110 * Writing System KX7111 * Entertainment System KX7114 * Programming System ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cx2k Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Pole Position II and Elevator Action were in some late Atari catalogs and also announced by Datasoft. I have Elevator Action as RX8070. I saw Sinistar mentioned in another catalog, don't remember where... There was a review of this unreleased version in Atari Explorer. I have it as RX8118 (MIDI Maze is RX8124). The current version of the Digital Press Guide has a complete list by CXL/RX number which was taken straight from Atari's Master Parts Listing. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy California Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Thanks ++ RC ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Holy **** (censored)! Never noticed you had all the serial numbers! Where did you get that list from? Still missing: CXL4014 (unreleased Mailing List?) CXL4017 CXL4023 RX8027 (Berzerk?) ++ RC ++ CXL4014 - Unknown I agree this is an obvious mixup with the mailing cassette which makes no sense as cart. CXL4017 - Unknown CXL4023 - Probably Bezerk I agree with Digital Press on this. By time frame, its the only number it can be. CXL4027- This is QIX, a released game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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