Draugr Posted May 4, 2002 Author Share Posted May 4, 2002 BTW, thats a 1050 5 1/4 floppy. Not a hard drive. My mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draugr Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 Hi, I'm looking to purchase a cable that will allow me ot hook up my 1050 Hard Drive to my PC so I can port my disk games to image file and vice versa. Can someone with experience tell me the difference between APE and SIO2PC? I was told they are different and that depending what you want to do, one is better than the other. Anyone out there that can help me understand this better? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 The APE "PRO" system is good - it backs up all types of protected discs and acts as an regular SIO2PC cable too... sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 SIO2PC will allow you to connect the Atari Via the SIO port to the PC Serial port (com1 or com2) and you PC hard drive will act as a drive for the atari.. beaning you can use the .ATR files on your PC hard drive to be act and actual floppies. APE PRO will allow you to connect a 1050 drive to the PC Serial Port and you can copy directly disks (protected or not) to the PC and convert them to .ATR files to be used with the SIO2PC cable or run them trough an Emulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draugr Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 Does APE go the other way as well? ATR or image file back to 1050 disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 quote Does APE go the other way as well? ATR or image file back to 1050 disk? Yes it does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGuy Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 APE is a great product...I've been using it for several years now and have had no problems with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 APE allows your PC to act as a HD (a very flexible and powerful one too, with loads of neat and unique features) for a real 8bit... sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smf_4ever Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I have been using the APE for almost 2 years.. and I love that little program/cable.. It is VERY worth is.. but for the software.. BE CAREFUL if you are running winXP.. (and if you are using ME or NT or 2000, you need the DOS version.. the WIN version does not run on it..) But the DOS version is still very friendly and I have had no problems with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by smf_4ever: I have been using the APE for almost 2 years.. and I love that little program/cable.. It is VERY worth is.. but for the software.. BE CAREFUL if you are running winXP.. (and if you are using ME or NT or 2000, you need the DOS version.. the WIN version does not run on it..) But the DOS version is still very friendly and I have had no problems with it. The new APE version "APE for Windows 2.0" also has a device driver for Windows 2000 & XP. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smf_4ever Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Robert: The new APE version "APE for Windows 2.0" also has a device driver for Windows 2000 & XP. Robert Ohhhhhh.... really??..... Rut ro raggy... I may finally be able to upgrade to XP!! YES!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Is an upgrade to XP a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGuy Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I'm not a big fan of XP...much prefer 2000. But I'm using DOS 6.22 for APE on an old pentium 90, and it works great for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smf_4ever Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I am currently running WinME.. so xp is an improvement...... I may see (now that I am moving) if I have room to pull out my old P75 and dedicate that to the atari (if I have the desk room.. and if my wife doesnt kill me for it..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Today i've received my SIO2PC cable. Connected directly from XE to PC works great, in chain with the 1050 the 130XE don't communicate with pc. It's normal? With the SIO2PC cable it's possible to 'write-back' the .atr images to the 1050? BTW, SIO2PC is great :-) I've loaded Bruce Lee and RoadRace, playing it after a lot of years... Some problems with the Pitfall II .atr images, that makes the screen black and freeze XE (I've tried also with an emulator, but it's the same. Probably the images online are not working). Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 yes it seems that you Pitfall .atr image is damaged.. try homesoft site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 quote: Originally posted by ndary: yes it seems that you Pitfall .atr image is damaged.. try homesoft site Update: :-) Today I've tried others .atr images: pitfall I, Pitfall II - more .atr downloaded - Up n Down, Pole Position, ET phone Home etc. All of this freeze the computers, some with black screen, some with characters. Other games works perfectly (like Bruce Lee, RoadRace, Spy Hunter). Same thing with an emulator. Where is the "homesoft" site? :-) Last question: I use "Atari810" to emulate an Atari drive on PC for SIO2PC; with it I could use all the .atr images. There is an utility to convert an .exe file (some games you find on the 'net is only progs, not images) to an .atr image? Thanks [ 05-16-2002: Message edited by: t.skid ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I reply to myself: found the "homesoft" site, and the images that work. (I've played right now Pitfall II... ). Thank Ndary for the hint. Now, I need only to know if: A) SIO2PC cable allows me to copy back from an image to a real atari floppy, and if there is an utility to put the program files on a .atr image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 quote: Originally posted by t.skid: I reply to myself: found the "homesoft" site, and the images that work. (I've played right now Pitfall II... ). Thank Ndary for the hint. Now, I need only to know if: A) SIO2PC cable allows me to copy back from an image to a real atari floppy, and if there is an utility to put the program files on a .atr image. OK. the answer is no. You need a 10502PC cable or a double like mine. I have a box that has both the 10502PC and SIO2PC cables connections on it (two RS232 female ports). I then have one RS232 cable with two male ends connected to both the PC com1 port and to either the 10502PC or SIO2PC. I have to switch ports on the box depending on which cable I'm using. Although it would be possible to run one through the com2 port if you have one. The box with the ports is then connected via an SIO cable to the XE. In my case, instead of having to use up an SIO port in the daisy chain of SIO periphrials, mine is soldered directly to the inside connections of the SIO port on my 1050. The 1050 with the cable&Box connected must be the first device in the daisy chain and must be set as D2: as the PC hard drive will emulate the D1: drive slot. If you get the 10502PC cable, then the A.P.E software has the Prosystem software with it to make either .atr images into self-booting floppies or you can copy write-protected software into .pro images which will boot as the original commercial disks or load the .pro images off the PC directly to the XE with the prosystem software. The SIO2PC cable alone will only allow you to load software off of your PC onto the Atari. Also, there is really no need to turn .com or .exe files into .atr images with the A.P.E software; if you set the virtual drive up as a pc-mirror instead of mounting an .atr image, it will act as an Atari drive with a disk full of .exe and .com files. You can then turn on your XE with the "option" button held down as usual and the A.P.E software will automatically upload a Spartados compatible menu program onto the 8-bit, it's hard drive directory essentially, and you select a letter or number of the .com or .exe file that you want to load and it will load normally. you can flip through pages of the directory to show upto 16 megabytes of 8-bit files. Of course all these features are in the registered version of A.P.E., and not the unregistered version. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.skid Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Hi Gunstar, and thank you! Sure your message help me Now I got a clear idea of what I can do and I can't. I understand that I need to buy the 10502PC also. BTW, at the APE site, with the program the guy sell also APE interface: is the one that you have, or something similar? Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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