Sylentwulf Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Am I missing something? I didn't get a chance to finish bidding on it before it ended, should I shoot myself or is it nothing? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?V...indexURL=0&rd=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarigamer Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Wait! Put the gun down! . I don't think these were protos. I think this guy just took the chips out of the carts. Because Othello and Checkers were pretty common 2 and 3 on the rarity guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 What those most likely are is a set of pirated chips. Basically someone burned the game onto an EPROM so they could plug it into a Ziff socket and play the game. BAck when employees had free access to games and carts were expensive pirating games like this was a common occurance. They're not prototypes, I can tell you that much. Here's a good picture of my own pirated chip collection: Pirated Eproms Tempest [ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: Tempest ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 I have too some ROMs and a ROMadapter: Adapter and ROMs Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 More likely it's just the second copy of that game. Notice he also has Jawbreaker, Super Breakout, and Space Cavern. There really is a Jawbreaker II, but not for the 2600. As for the other games there were no planned sequels (Super Breakout already was a sequel). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel D. Park Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 I agree as well. I just got a large lot of pirate games, they are games labeled like "Bombs" (Kaboom), "Horse Racing" (Steeplechase), "Fishing" (Fishing Derby), "Cross the Road" (Freeway) just to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 what are the prototype sequals and which or common sequals that were release protos are like combat2 (if ever found) surround 2 what else? knwon ones are like breakout superbreakout. defender defender2 or stargate would swordquest go under sequals(3 sequals?) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Regarding the "II" carts... Perhaps those are 2K EPROMs (2716) for 4K games, so it requires a "I" EPROM as well as a "II" EPROM... (I'm assuming 2732 EPROMs are 4K, which I can't remember for sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylentwulf Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 THATS a good theory Russ, I bid a little high on that auction so now I'm kinda glad I lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genki Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Russ Perry Jr: Regarding the "II" carts... Perhaps those are 2K EPROMs (2716) for 4K games, so it requires a "I" EPROM as well as a "II" EPROM... (I'm assuming 2732 EPROMs are 4K, which I can't remember for sure). You are quite right. For >1M EPROM, the number indicates kiloBIT and the 27 series are 8 bit wide so 16Kbit @8 bit equals 2Kbyte. (EPROM 1M and up the number are a little different. 27010 is 1Mbit, 020 is 2Mbit, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Russ Perry Jr: Regarding the "II" carts... Perhaps those are 2K EPROMs (2716) for 4K games, so it requires a "I" EPROM as well as a "II" EPROM... (I'm assuming 2732 EPROMs are 4K, which I can't remember for sure). Damn, you beat me to it! That's exactly what I was about to say... --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylentwulf Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 OK, makes me feel better, the only thing that still bugs me is Jawbreaker II, Space cavern II, super breakout II, etc.. He has space cavern I, and space cavern II listed, any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Never heard of these games. Maybe pirate titles or hacks from the same games. Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videotwit Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Many, many, many of these old pirated EPROMS were mislabeled. It's very possible that "Jawbreaker II," Super Breakout II," and "Space Cavern II" were all just mislabeled. I've actually never heard of a loose EPROM containing a prototype game -- if there are any out there, they are quite rare. Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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