chrisbid Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 get it while you can, this game and toejam and earl 3 is starting to disappear from shelves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 does anyone know if you can unlock HOD2 without beating 3 first ? is that a download to the memory card ? how would that work ? when i get it, id like to play 2 before i play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicBoy Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I've got HOTD 3 and the green Madcatz gun. A blast to play. The gun seems very responsive. Very fun but I've heard, also that it's short. With a game like HOTD, the very act of playing is so fun to me that replayability is a given...even if it's short. Not sure on unlocking 2 before completing 3. Maybe there's a code out there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 does anyone know if you can unlock HOD2 without beating 3 first ? is that a download to the memory card ? how would that work ? when i get it, id like to play 2 before i play 3 If this page is correct, you can't: http://www.cheatcc.com/xb/hotd3.html Successfully complete survival mode in House Of The Dead 3 to unlock House Of The Dead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 You could buy an Action Replay (though it is just used for sharing game saves since we wont see a real cheat system for the Xbox well not anytime soon anyways) they arent too expensive and it comes with a free memory card. I have one and they are pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 get it while you can, this game and toejam and earl 3 is starting to disappear from shelves Only to reappear on used shelves. Seriously, this game is not hard to find (neither is TJ&E3) and probably never will be. There are two components to true rarity - supply and demand. However small the supply, it is still greater than the demand for these games. My local EB has about 15 copies of HotD3 on the used shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I have HOTD3 and green gun and it works very well. It may be short, but I certainly never got close to beating it . I would imagine it's a lot better with 2 players. It plays ok with the controller, but the gun is much more fun. I understand Starsky & Hutch and Silent Scope Complete also use the Xbox gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 ebgames online says that HOTD3 is on backorder, does anyone know roughly how long games come in that are on backorder ? i might just goto the mall. i hate that place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I dont know if buying house of the dead 3 is a wise move. I enjoyed noth hotd 1 and 2 but 3 is just kind of empty. Plus it will cost you about 90$ for all the stuff you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I dont know if buying house of the dead 3 is a wise move. I enjoyed noth hotd 1 and 2 but 3 is just kind of empty. Plus it will cost you about 90$ for all the stuff you need. $90? Is that including two guns or a mandatory jewel encrusted butt plug that you have to keep in or the game won't work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 get it while you can, this game and toejam and earl 3 is starting to disappear from shelves Only to reappear on used shelves. Seriously, this game is not hard to find (neither is TJ&E3) and probably never will be. There are two components to true rarity - supply and demand. However small the supply, it is still greater than the demand for these games. My local EB has about 15 copies of HotD3 on the used shelf. not here, i couldnt find a copy of ToeJam and Earl III anywhere in columbus new or used. After checking more than a dozen stores, i finally found a used copy at Media Play for 23.99 which i reluctantly picked up and used a five dollar coupon on. House of the Dead 3 was a little easier, but EB sells this game used for 17.99, i found a copy for 15 at a a mom n pop store. Ive noticed that games that do not sell well initially will get put on discount, but then will be tough to find once the liquidated stock is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 beating HOTD3 is super easy even with a controller (with everything set on easy), takes maybe half an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 ebgames @ the coral square mall had 1 new copy left of HOTD3. i bought it! 19.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Ive noticed that games that do not sell well initially will get put on discount, but then will be tough to find once the liquidated stock is gone. Ok, to amend my comments a little bit, TJ&E3 may end up being a little more "rare" than HotD3, but neither is a game I'd ever really put in that category. "Rare" is just a word that gets thrown around a little too easily these days. If I was gonna rate these using AtariAge's rarity scale, I'd make TJ&E3 a 4 and HotD3 a 3. Like I said, a game needs to be both rare in an absolute sense and prized by collectors for whatever reason in order to be truly difficult to obtain. TJ&E3 may not be easy to find at your local thrift store in 10 years but it'll always be easy enough to get on places like Ebay and the price will just keep coming down; it's not a very good game and it did sell approximately 100,000 copies. Just looking through completed auctions, it goes for as little as $12.50 there right now and once people start dumping their Xbox's after picking up Xbox 2's or whatever, it'll just drop further and there will be a lot more of them out there. There are many, many rarer games than this for current generation systems. I worked for a game publisher until May of last year and I used to get a monthly spreadsheet of the aggregate totals sold for every game of the current generation, and there were some titles literally in the hundreds several years after their release. (For a while I had the thought that I'd go out and buy all of these games for like $4 or whatever they were going for at the time, but most of them are just crap games; that's why they sold so few copies.) TJ&E3 probably comes to mind before any of these games because it's a fairly well-known and well-liked series, but it sold more copies than you probably think it did. HotD3 actually sold far fewer, but it has even fewer people on the make for it because gun games are just out of fashion these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 By strange coincidence I've spent the last few days playing through TJ&E and I have to say I am really enjoying it. I never played the older games in the series so I am new to it. I would also rate it as a very good game especially as it has a co-op mode. In fact I would say TJ&E would get 8/10 from me and is a bargain if you can get it for $12. I used to get a monthly spreadsheet of the aggregate totals sold for every game of the current generation I would be very interested in seeing that kind of information. Does anyone know of a website that publishes figures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I dont know if buying house of the dead 3 is a wise move. I enjoyed noth hotd 1 and 2 but 3 is just kind of empty. Plus it will cost you about 90$ for all the stuff you need. $90? Is that including two guns or a mandatory jewel encrusted butt plug that you have to keep in or the game won't work? Hoo ha you got me that sure was funny. 2 guns are 60 or 70 the game is about 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I dont know if buying house of the dead 3 is a wise move. I enjoyed noth hotd 1 and 2 but 3 is just kind of empty. Plus it will cost you about 90$ for all the stuff you need. $90? Is that including two guns or a mandatory jewel encrusted butt plug that you have to keep in or the game won't work? Hoo ha you got me that sure was funny. 2 guns are 60 or 70 the game is about 20. I've read that the use of the eye roll emoticon is a sign of genius. Congratulations. So you were talking about two guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I would be very interested in seeing that kind of information. Does anyone know of a website that publishes figures? You won't find it published because it's proprietary info that people pay a whole lot of money for. Even the standard NPD reports don't have aggregate totals of everything like the sheet I used to see had. But after I wrote my post I started wanting to look at it again myself, so I might contact one of my old buddies tomorrow and see if he'll send me at least the bottom of the current list (which is all people here probably care about anyway). Not sure if he will or not, but I'll try. I'm sure I still have an older one saved somewhere, but it'd be pretty out of date by now. The bottom-rung games probably wouldn't have sold many more copies by now, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Found one! The newest one I have is from December of 2003. I'm just gonna throw some numbers out from the very bottom of the list, cut and pasted from the spreadsheet. These are aggregate sales totals for these games from 1995-2003, just starting from an arbitrary point in the list and organized by system (that's how I sorted it) so you can see what games are likely to end up really "rare". Unfortunately no Dreamcast as TRST had stopped tracking that system by this time, but here's PS2, PSX, Xbox and GameCube: PS2 G1 JOCKEY 3 7,564 PS2 NINJA ASSAULT 7,455 PS2 ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS 7,187 PS2 WARHAMMER 40000:FIRE 1 7,130 PS2 WHITEOUT 6,880 PS2 EVOLUTION SNOWBOARD 5,992 PS2 BLOODY ROAR 4 5,977 PS2 TIME CRISIS 3 5,602 PS2 NCAA FINAL FOUR 2004 5,532 PS2 ALTER ECHO 5,270 PS2 BEYOND GOOD & EVIL 5,096 PS2 I-NINJA 4,850 PS2 XGRA:EXTREME G RACING 4,771 PS2 SPACE CHANNEL 5 SE 4,720 PS2 BATTLESTAR GALACTICA 4,691 PS2 LOONEY TUNES:BACK IN 4,638 PS2 BOMBASTIC 4,323 PS2 ROGUE OPS 3,627 PS2 VIRTUAL-ON MARZ 3,280 PS2 MONSTER 4X4: MASTERS 3,145 PS2 FUGITIVE HUNTER: WAR 3,135 PS2 SMASH CARS 3,006 PS2 METAL ARMS: GLITCH 2,899 PS2 FALL 2003 BUNDLE 2,645 PS2 GLADIATOR: SWORD 2,632 PS2 GOBLIN COMMANDER 2,452 PS2 WHIPLASH 2,427 PS2 KYA: DARK LINEAGE 1,765 PS2 BUTT UGLY MARTNS:ZOOM 1,267 PS2 MUPPETS PARTY CRUISE 867 GCN DROME RACERS 3,514 GCN AQUAMAN: ATLANTIS 3,400 GCN SX SUPERSTAR 3,337 GCN DINOTOPIA: SUNSTONE 3,155 GCN SPAWN: ARMAGEDDON 3,065 GCN CITY RACER 2,840 GCN XIII 2,793 GCN FREAKY FLYERS 2,410 GCN SPIRITS & SPELLS 2,319 GCN BATMAN: RISE SIN TZU 2,279 GCN GROOVERIDER: SLOT CAR 1,957 GCN SUPER BUBBLE POP 1,636 GCN WTA TOUR TENNIS 1,464 GCN LOONEY TUNES:BACK IN 1,461 GCN ROGUE OPS 1,343 GCN FREESTYLE METAL X 1,097 GCN ROADKILL 1,056 GCN MEN IN BLACK 2: ALIEN 975 GCN TONKA RESCUE PATROL 564 GCN DISNEYS HIDE & SNEAK 555 GCN GO! GO! HYPERGRIND 205 GCN TRANSWORLD SURF: NEXT 47 PSX CITY OF LOST CHILDREN 3,923 PSX 101 DALMATIONS II 3,803 PSX 4 GAME ACTION PACK 3,615 PSX TALL INFINITY 3,532 PSX STREET RACQUETBALL 3,448 PSX AIR HOCKEY 3,421 PSX NASCAR 50TH ANNIV 3,049 PSX JIGSAW MADNESS 2,808 PSX DISNEY 3 GAME PACK 2,705 PSX EQUESTRIAN SHOWCASE 2,529 PSX MIRACLE SPACE RACE 2,102 PSX HERCULES 1,951 PSX BATTLESPORT 1,808 PSX PUZZNIC 1,676 PSX PINK PANTHER: PURSUIT 1,449 PSX RC DE GO 1,323 PSX CLEOPATRA'S FORTUNE 1,161 PSX DORA THE EXPLORER 921 PSX TV BUNDLE 827 PSX GH VALUE GAME 12.99 630 PSX STARBLADE ALPHA 388 PSX NFL QB CLUB 96 354 PSX ASSORTMENT 4.99 300 PSX EASTER BUNNYS BIG DAY 242 PSX D&D TOWER OF DOOM 86 XBX GLADIATOR: SWORD 2,945 XBX ROBOCOP 2,758 XBX GOBLIN COMMANDER 2,621 XBX AQUAMAN: ATLANTIS 2,613 XBX BARBIE HORSE ADV:WILD 2,336 XBX FORD RACING 2 2,332 XBX FREESTYLE METAL X 2,072 XBX MOJO 1,767 XBX GROOVERIDER: SLOT CAR 1,766 XBX XGRA:EXTREME G RACING 1,635 XBX SPY HUNTER 2 1,590 XBX WHIPLASH 1,444 XBX DINOTOPIA: SUNSTONE 1,382 XBX SUPER BUBBLE POP 1,140 XBX GRAVITY GAMES BIKE 921 XBX ROBIN HOOD: DEFENDER 807 XBX DRAKE 692 XBX MAXIMUM CHASE 606 XBX GROUP S CHALLENGE 592 XBX BLOWOUT 511 XBX FALL 2003 BUNDLE 456 XBX EXHIBITION DEMO VOL 4 397 XBX ULTIMATE BEACH SOCCER 352 I guess TJ&E3 hadn't come out at the time of this sheet, but here's the number for HotD3: XBX HOUSE OF THE DEAD III 92,193 It's not even close to being as rare as some of these games. If you want to know the sales of any specific game, just ask, though keep in mind this list is now a little more than a year old so I don't know numbers for recent titles. You gotta expect, though, that the bottom-feeder games don't suddenly sell millions of copies a year after their release. So if a game sold 352 copies in 2003, it probably hasn't sold much more than that by now. So in terms of rarity, this is probably a pretty good guide of games that had been released up to that point, at least. (There are a few titles here that had just come out at the time this list was put together in December of 2003, so they're probably not quite this rare, but hot-selling games sell a lot more than 5,000 copies in a month, so even the newer games you see here probably didn't ever sell a lot more than this.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 My kingdom for an edit button: XBX TOEJAM & EARL III 61,679 I was looking for "toe jam", not "toejam". So I was technically wrong, HotD3 did sell more copies, but it's still hardly rare at all. No game that sells 61,679 copies could ever be called rare when Ultimate Beach Soccer only sold 352! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Great stuff spacecadet I find it amazing how much work and wages would go into making a game only to sell a few hundred copies. I have been after a couple of titles on that list for a while now, and now I'm not surprised I am having trouble finding them. See if you can get a more up to date list from your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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