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In Topic: New Atari Console that Ataribox?

Sun Dec 2, 2018 6:02 AM

Does anyone know who came up with the design of the Atari Box console and controller (now Atair VCS) , was it Feargal's company or Atari?
I wonder if the dispute is over who owns the patent / copyright on the designs


In Topic: New Atari Console that Ataribox?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:14 PM


They are lengthy, but to sum it up .   In the new terms there are more things about protecting Indiegogo themselves from being sued.

The other thing to note is that IGG have updated their Terms of Service a number of times.  So I'm not sure what the actual Terms were at the time of the Gameband campaign

In Topic: New Atari Console that Ataribox?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:52 PM

Indiegogo changed there Terms of Service on May 25th this year.  Campaigns like the Atari Gameband still fall under the old Terms of Service.

The Ataribox(VCS)  campaign started literally a few days after the new Terms of Service where introduced   ie it started May 31st just 6 days after the Terms of Service changed - Coincidence ?
So the Atari VCS campaign is under the new Terms of Service.  

In Topic: New Atari Console that Ataribox?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:43 AM

It's a tricky one.   I guess the best option for the Gameband backers would be to get a lawyer to take on a class action case on a no win no pay basis.  But since they said the money is gone, that's going to be very hard to get a lawyer that would do that.  
They would need some evidence that the Gameband team either lied about there being no money, or there was evidence of fraud so they could to go after the Gameband CEO personnaly to retrieve cash.

The situation sucks.  This reminds me of the Peachy printer campaign where they flat out came out and said that one of the team members stole a huge chunk of backers money - $320K.  And yet nothing happened.  At least not to date and it's been years.  

In Topic: New Atari Console that Ataribox?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:25 AM

So did the Gameband team tell backers what all the money was spent on.  If not , they have broken Kickstarters Terms of Service





Quote, Choice bits bolded:

If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:

  • they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
  • they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
  • they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
  • they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
  • they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.

The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers.