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And the loser is... XBox 360!


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So, it's time to tackle the latest console wars.Get comfortable... this is going to take awhile. ;)Sony vs. MicrosoftThe XBox 360 is going to sell a lot of units, and eventually make money for Microsoft. But they're going to be second place to Sony, even before the PlayStation 3 is launched.The reasons for this have to do in part with the technical specs of the systems, the games available at or after launch, and brand loyalty. And while those are all going to be contributing factors, none of those are the root cause.The root cause is due to a completely different corporate culture within Microsoft and Sony. Make no mistake about it - Sony is just as big of a monopolistic bully as Microsoft is - but they approach their businesses in entirely different ways.On the surface, they share some similarities. Sony wants to dominate any market it enters. Consumer electronics, professional video equipment, video games, and so on. It does this, more often than not, by creating products that, through one means or another, become the de facto standard for their type. Sony does this, in part, through bullying, just as Microsoft does. Especially when it comes to professional products. Sony adopts a "my way or the highway" attitude, and they're so large they can usually get away with it. But the thing to remember about Sony is - they're a proactive company. They want to dominate the market by having the "must-have" product out there. Sometimes they do this by inventing a product, sometimes they do it by re-inventing an existing product in a proprietary manner that forces you to use their version of it. Either way, Sony relies on some degree of innovation to succeed. They're always taking the initiative, and they plan for the long-haul. They want the best product out there, because they know it's likely to come out on top, and when it gets there, they want it to stay there. Sony wants to lock you in as a customer for years (and many product cycles) to come.Microsoft, on the other hand, is a reactive company. Everything they do is in response to something else. They lack the ability to self-generate any sort of original ideas and are only doing what's necessary to dominate in the here and now. They see an area of technology where they don't rule, and want to get in there and take it over. They don't care about having the best products out there - they're concerned about having the biggest piece of the pie, and getting it as fast as they can. If they can take over an industry, they can own an industry. If they can own an industry, they don't have to innovate. They're short-sighted and can't see beyond the horizon. This is why they keep having to change strategies when new technologies appear seemingly out of nowhere and threaten them. They respond after-the-fact to paradigm shifts - but they don't cause them. This is the corporate attitude that spawned the XBox 360. This is also the attitude that spawned the original XBox.The original XBox came about because Microsoft saw Sony's total dominance of the videogame market, and the kind of money that industry generated. It was done as a response to Sony - not as a genuine desire to make a better gaming machine. It only took 18 months for Microsoft to throw the XBox together and get it to market. They rushed it out there to cash in on the buzz surrounding what were the "next-gen consoles" as fast as they could.The problem was, they ended up coming in second to Sony. By a pretty wide margin, too. This was unacceptable to Microsoft. The reason they ended up in second was mainly because their console really didn't offer anything that was compelling enough to get people to not buy a PlayStation 2. Certainly a lot of people bought the XBox (24 million at last count), but it didn't do what Microsoft wanted it to do - take away Sony's customers.For the XBox 360, Microsoft is once again reacting to Sony. This time, it's the PlayStation 3 they're reacting to, even though that hasn't been released yet. Now, Microsoft has always implied there would be a follow-up to the XBox, so how can this be a reaction? Because they rushed the XBox 360 to market.Microsoft released the XBox 360 when it did, not because the console was the best it could be and it was the right time to release it. They released it to beat Sony to market. Period. They wanted to cash in on the Christmas buying season, and the fact that they would be the only next generation console on the market for months. They believed that this would cause every gamer out there who wanted a next-gen system to buy the 360, since it would be here now. With Microsoft, it's always about now. Dominate now. Take out the competition by beating Sony to the punch. Get the consumers to spend their money now, and they won't want to buy a PS3 later, right?The trouble is, it's not going to work.In the short term, there are a couple of big problems for Microsoft.Console ShortagesFirst of all, there's the shortage of XBox 360s. In fact, Microsoft sold out of the units so fast (mere days after its November 22nd release), some industry pundits are claiming it actually hurt the overall holiday sales figures for videogames. And if people can't buy a 360, they're going to spend their money on something else. Either more games for existing consoles, or they'll save their money to see what the PS3 is going to look like. It doesn't do any good to bring a product to market, if people can't actually buy it. Wall Street analysts predicted Microsoft would sell 1.8 million units over the holidays. They ended up falling well short at 1.3 million. Moreover, Sony saw a 10.5% increase in PS2 sales, selling more units than the XBox 360 did. (Sony also claims to have sold more PSPs than the XBox 360.) So - bad move there for Microsoft. As it happened, the buzz over the 360 reportedly hurt the original XBox's sales over the holidays, too.Lack of Truly "Next Gen" GamesRelated to the shortage of consoles, is the shortage of games. Most stores that I went into that had XBox 360 displays had maybe 10 games available. And while this is pretty typical for a launch, it doesn't look very promising to a potential buyer. Especially when there are tons of games for existing consoles right around the corner. Add to this the fact that a lot of the launch titles are garnering less-than-stellar reviews. The games so far, aren't the quantum leap over existing games that people are expecting them to be. Software sells consoles. That is, if you have consoles to sell.Rumors of ProblemsThen there are the reports of reliability issues and the inevitable angry customers. These may not be widespread problems, but the reports of them are widespread, and that's more important. Why? Well, if you're a hardcore gamer with disposable income, it wouldn't really matter. You'll buy an XBox 360 despite negative reports, because you've probably already determined that those issues wouldn't likely affect you. But... what if you aren't the one paying for it? What if your parents have to pay for it? There was a pretty steady stream of negative reports about the XBox 360 in the news, because anything Microsoft does wrong is news. You didn't have to be a close follower of the industry to pick up on it, either. So parents who might have otherwise bought their kids an XBox 360 might think twice before spending several hundred dollars for one. Especially if they can't even find one in the stores.The reliability problems (whether widespread or not) were also backed up by what I'd seen in several stores. Just before Christmas, I hit up three stores (two Toys 'R' Us stores, and an EB Games), that had XBox 360 kiosks. In one of the Toys 'R' Us stores, the XBox 360 only had videos of the games running on it. They didn't actually have a playable demo installed in the unit. It was drawing absolutely zero interest from passers-by in the video game department. In the other two stores, both XBox 360s were not working. Whether they'd crashed, or had just been turned off didn't matter. During the busiest shopping week of the year, nobody was giving them a second look. After the holidays, the units were (generally) up and running, but by then, nobody was shopping. And of course, you still couldn't find one for sale anyway. That sort of negative impression can stay with a shopper for months. Especially with something that expensive, and hard to find. Why make the effort? If you have to wait anyway, why not just wait a little while longer for the PS3?So sure... Microsoft sold out of the XBox 360. But by doing so, Have they risked alienating potential customers? Now that the XBox 360 hype has passed, will people still buy them as they catch up with production, and games begin to trickle out? Or will consumers just wait for the PS3? Was getting their console out the door first, and selling 1.3 million units really worth it to Microsoft?Yes. For now. Because they were still first, and Microsoft thinks that's the most important factor in getting customers to buy their console, rather than Sony's.So will this work for Microsoft, and make the XBox 360 the dominant new console?Well, no.Even discounting the short-term issues, theirs is a flawed strategy for a number of reasons.Loyalty of PlayStation ownersFirst, gamers who are loyal to the PS2 are going to wait for the PS3. The specs for it are too compelling for them not to wait. There aren't any killer apps for the 360 that will drive Sony loyalists over to Microsoft. This is still the vast majority of the market (Sony claims to have sold over 100 million PS2s), and those gamers will still be able play nearly all of their PS2 (and PS1) games on the new console. And while the backwards-compatibility for the XBox 360 is better than initially expected - it is not backwards compatible with any games from Sony.Curiosity of gamers "on the fence"Gamers who could go with either console will, at the very least, wait to see the PS3 in person. Why spend their money on a 360 now, when the PS3 is maybe six months away? It's not as if Microsoft is a year or more ahead (which would give them a pretty big advantage) - they're about a half-year ahead. For $300-$400, even the most impatient gamer is likely to be able to wait that long. Some of those gamers will buy a 360, but many more will buy a PS3. And one of the reasons is because of Blu-Ray. The PS3 will have it. The XBox 360 won't.High definition moviesA little history is in order at this point. There are two main competing technologies that are aiming to replace current DVDs with media capable of supporting high definition video. Both are backwards-compatible with DVDs and CDs. One is going to lose, one is going to win.HD DVD, which is backed by Microsoft, among others, is a step up in capacity (15 GB) from current DVDs, and is largely compatible from a manufacturing standpoint with current DVDs. Microsoft is backing it, not because they think it's a superior format (it's not), but because it fits into their home media center plans. The Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme for HD DVD would potentially allow for copying the movies off onto a home media center for easy access. Plus, it was supposed to be out to market by the end of last year. Remember Microsoft's desire to beat Sony to the market? However, Toshiba (who is the principle manufacturer backing the format) had to push the release back, missing the holiday season, and it's still not out yet.The biggest problem with HD DVD is that the movies studios are mostly backing the other technology: Blu-Ray. A few studios are considering backing both, but Blu-Ray by far has the most support from movie studios. Blu-Ray can store 23 GB of data (with higher capacities in the works), which means higher quality video - and more of it - on a single disc. But that's not why the studios want it. The studios want it because they like the DRM scheme on Blu-Ray better. Blu-Ray prohibits the user from copying movies off the disc, and copying movies is something that the studios absolutely hate. The studios control the movies, and guess who one of those studios is? Sony. Sony is a huge movie studio. They own Columbia, TriStar, MGM, United Artists, and all of the movies in those libraries. They are also one of the developers of Blu-Ray. The other movie studios on board with Blu-Ray are Disney (including Pixar, Touchstone, Miramax, Buena Vista), Warner Bros. (including Turner Entertainment, Castle Rock) and 20th Century Fox. What's left over? Well, basically Paramount and Universal. However, there are reports that those studios may back both formats, at least until a dominant one emerges.Sony has a lot to gain with the adoption of Blu-Ray as the new standard. They get to sell their own movies on Blu-Ray. They get to license Blu-Ray technology to others. They can use it as a marketing tool for selling the PS3. They can use it to sell HDTVs, and other Blu-Ray-based products. And it's going to work.High definition has been slow in adoption by the general public due to two things: the lack of high definition content, and the cost of high definition TVs. The costs of HDTVs are coming down dramatically. But because there's so little HD content, many consumers still see little reason to buy HDTVs. If there were more content, even more HDTVs would be sold, driving the cost down further, resulting in more sales, and so on.Content is the key to the adoption of HDTV. It's also the key to the successful introduction of a new media format. Blu-Ray will bring that content. Sony is going to sell tens of millions of PlayStation 3s, and the studios will have millions of people to sell new, high definition versions of their movies to. Sony will also have millions more people to sell HDTVs to. And the PS3 will be the driving force behind it. Barring an obscenely high introductory price or technological catastrophe, that's just a given fact. In order to get Blu-Ray out there and adopted as the standard, Sony will sell the PS3 at a very competitive price, and take a heavy loss on each console. Of course, Microsoft also takes a loss with the XBox 360 (for the original XBox, each owner had to purchase ten games just for Microsoft to break even on each console sold). Over time, component costs come down enough for the hardware to be sold at cost or for a profit, but the real money comes from software sales. For Sony, that also includes movies. For Microsoft, it doesn't. Sony can afford to sell the PS3 at a greater loss, since they can make more money back off software and movies, than Microsoft can on software alone.Because of its ability to play high definition movies, Sony will sell more PS3s than they would have otherwise (and they would have sold a lot of them anyway). For comparison's sake, the PS2 sold a lot of units in its initial run because it was not only a game console, but gamers got a DVD player included at "no extra cost". This was at a time when DVD players were a lot more expensive than they are now. It cost Sony a lot of money, but it paid off, and they're about to do the same thing again with Blu-Ray. (And as an aside... look for Apple to be one of the first - if not the first - company to offer computers with Blu-Ray burners and authoring software. They're one of the other major backers behind Blu-Ray, and are big proponents of HD.)Now, one knock that I've been reading about Blu-Ray is the higher cost of manufacturing discs, and therefore the higher cost of movies and games. Well, Sony just announced their pricing scheme for movies, which is in line with what DVDs were introduced at. And if you're buying a PS3 and an HDTV anyway, the odds are you've got some disposable income at hand. Furthermore... there's the rental market. I hardly even buy DVDs now, so why would I buy Blu-Ray discs when I could probably rent them through NetFlix? Finally, as far as games go, nobody has ever said that the games have to be on Blu-Ray discs. There's no reason, except for extremely large games, why they can't continue to ship them on DVDs. And gamers are likely to be willing to pay extra for Blu-Ray games anyway, since (hopefully) they'd be something pretty special to exceed a 7.9 GB dual-layer DVD.Because Microsoft rushed to market, they have no capability within the XBox 360 to play high definition movies. They didn't even wait for the technology that they're backing - HD DVD - to be ready before shipping the console. They have a next generation console, with previous generation media. Now, they have announced that they plan to ship an external HD DVD player later. But that means that XBox 360 owners have to buy another box to plug into their console, to watch HD movies. There's no indication as to when (or if) you'd be able to buy an XBox 360 with an HD DVD drive built-in. This is going to hurt their sales. Gamers will think, "Well, I want to buy a new console, and I'd like to play high definition movies too, so I either buy just a PS3, or buy an XBox 360 and an external HD DVD player, or an XBox 360 and a stand-alone Blu-Ray player". And Blu-Ray players are going to be expensive initially, just like DVD players were. The best way to buy one for months to come will be in a PS3. More to the point - HD DVD is going to lose to Blu-Ray anyway. So I suspect at some point Microsoft will offer an external Blu-Ray player for the XBox 360, because they have to be aware, like it or not, that the HD tide is turning against them. They're going to have to include support for Blu-Ray, sometime.Once Sony blazes the trail with Blu-Ray on the PS3, the cost of manufacturing Blu-Ray players will begin to drop, and they'll begin to replace DVD players as the new standard. It may take two or three years, but it will happen. The movies studios want it to happen. Sales of DVDs are slowing down, and they need to find a new way to get you to buy your movies, again. High definition Blu-Ray discs will be the key. And Sony will make it happen. As a manufacturer of game consoles, HDTVs, professional and consumer HDTV cameras and equipment, software and movies, they have far more at stake than Microsoft, and they're doing what is necessary to ensure that they win. Not because they want to beat Microsoft. Sony doesn't care at all about Microsoft. Sony has other businesses to run, which all intertwine with each other. They're in it for the long haul. Microsoft only wants to win because they can't stand to see someone else having more success than they do.Now, none of this means that the XBox 360 is going to "fail". It's just going to "lose". It will be a distant second to the PlayStation 3. Although to Microsoft, this is certainly a failure.Sony's ProblemIt won't be all smooth sailing for Sony, however. There's always the question of launch titles (how good and how many), and the reliability of a brand new technology. But Sony's biggest problem, as it is with Microsoft, is going to be meeting the demand. But I suspect this is one of the reasons Sony isn't rushing the PS3 to market now. They want to avoid the massive shortages that they've run into in the past, and are no doubt doing everything they can to ramp up production of components to a reasonable launch level. However, I think they're still going to have problems. And I think the problems will come from IBM.IBM has had trouble making G5 chips in quantity for Apple, variants of which are driving both the XBox 360 and PS3, yet the quantities are far higher than anything Apple ever needed. Sony and Microsoft are largely at IBM's mercy. Sony has the advantage though, because 1) their product has more development time ahead of it, so IBM has more time to work out issues before going into production, and 2) Sony is a bigger customer. IBM knows there will be more PS3s sold than XBox 360s, which means more money for them. So that gives them a reason to give Sony priority in research and development and manufacturing. Plus, they're selling a 7-core chip to Sony, and only a 3-core chip to Microsoft. Even though that means more complexity for the PS3 (and more potential problems), the potential payoffs are greater in terms of sellable technologies. And finally, Microsoft and IBM have had what could charitably be described as a "tenuous relationship" in the past. How much of that will come into play is anyone's guess. But IBM is, first and foremost, a business, so they'll do their best to serve both clients. Still, I wouldn't expect the PS3 to be easy to find. Especially since a lot of people will be looking for one.Nintendo... #2?The unknown quantity in all of this is Nintendo's Revolution, and I'll tell you why: the Nintendo DS. I expected the DS to go the way of the Virtual Boy. I thought it was a gimmick in search of a game, and that nobody would buy the thing. Well, 13 million units sold later, I was obviously wrong. Nintendo has a willingness to try new things with gaming, that neither Sony nor Microsoft do. Nintendo is a true game company, while the others are companies that added gaming to existing businesses. Nintendo may not get it right every time, but at least they're willing to explore what videogaming can become, rather than just taking what already exists and making it look better.The Revolution may not capture the hardcore gamer market that the PS3 and XBox 360 are aimed at, but it may not have to. There is a large untapped market of people who might be willing to play some quirky, interesting Revolution game, who have absolutely no interest in Halo 3 or Metal Gear Solid 4. There are a lot of those plug-n-play TV games on the market now, many of which have unique controllers, which aren't too far off in concept from what the Revolution's controller can do. The DS is proving that there is a pretty large market for unique gameplay ideas. This isn't too surprising anyway, if you check out the kinds of games currently populating arcades. People have traditionally gone to arcades to get gaming experiences they can't get at home. From the 70's to the present, that's what has defined the arcade experience. But as soon as the home consoles would catch up with what the arcades offered, the arcade game manufacturers would have to reinvent what arcade gaming meant.Now, it looks like Nintendo's taking the next step in console gaming, by offering far more interactivity than a standard gamepad can provide. The key will be the software. If the software is innovative, and most important - fun, then they could have a hit on their hands. A lack of DVD playback and HD output might hurt them, but not if they make the console cheap enough. Sony and Microsoft are selling home-entertainment packages. Nintendo is making a game machine. That's an important distinction, and gamers - hardcore or not - may find enough reasons to pick up a Revolution in addition to their favorite console. Besides, Nintendo still has a lot of fans out there, some dating back 20 years. Nintendo isn't just a company for "kids". Since the Revolution is designed to play all of their classic games, fans young and not-so-young may line up to buy one on launch day for that reason alone.Whether or not Nintendo can make a dent in Microsoft's #2 spot remains to be seen. I think the Revolution will be a successful console, but it's all going to depend on the software. Actually, I think Nintendo's best bet would be to follow Sega's lead, and get out of the console business (except for handhelds). After all, why couldn't Nintendo make the Revolution controller work with the PS3, and then develop software for it? It'd save them the cost and hassle of manufacturing and marketing their own console, and they could focus on what they do best - making games. Links:HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray article at CD Freaks (a little out of date, but a good technical comparison)Blu-Ray homepageHD DVD homepage (note curious lack of FAQ)Ars Technica article on Microsoft and HD DVDSony's Blu-Ray pricingXBox, PS2 sales figuresNintendo DS sales figuresXBox 360 specsPlayStation 3 specsNintendo Revolution pre-release info

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Wow, what an entry.

 

I agree with you that Blu-Ray will be a big plus for Sony, assuming the PS3 can remain cost competetive with the Xbox360.

 

But there's a fly in the ointment for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD: HDMI. All indications are any Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player (including the PS3) will only support full HD resolution via HDMI. So if your big screen HDTV-ready TV doesn't have an HDMI input, you'll only be able to watch HD DVDs (Blu-Ray or HD-DVD format) at a resolution somewhere between normal DVDs and HD.

 

And since the Xbox360 doesn't have an HDMI jack, I have a sneaking suspicion HD-DVD won't be a simple add-on, but maybe a completely different console. Oh, and don't plan on seeing HD-DVD or Blu-Ray (especially burners) in PCs or Macs anytime soon. Movie studios aren't likely to take any risk which could allow normal people to make copies of their HD content. (Note - this goes for HDTV via CableCard too.)

 

Where Microsoft has apparently hit a goldmine is with downloadable content via Xbox Live Marketplace; something which doesn't appear to be on Sony's radar. However, I doubt that people really want to drop $$$ simply to play Hexic. But still, it's the exclusive games which sell the systems (especially in RPG hungry Japan).

 

Personally, I have a N64; which my 5 year loves for Mario Party 1-3; and a PC on which I play a lot of MAME & VPinMame, and of course a 7800+CC2. But, I'm finding that I simply don't have the time to play games, and there's things I'd rather spend my $$ on to boot.

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Yep - HDMI is a biggie. I got a top of the line 65" HDTV 5+ years ago that only has analog inputs for the HD signal. Works great with my cable TV and DVR. I will not replace it until it dies, which means until then I have no incentive to buy into Blu-Ray or HD DVD.

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Wow, what an entry.

 

Wow, I can't believe anybody actually read all the way through it. ;)

 

But there's a fly in the ointment for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD: HDMI.  All indications are any Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player (including the PS3) will only support full HD resolution via HDMI.  So if your big screen HDTV-ready TV doesn't have an HDMI input, you'll only be able to watch HD DVDs (Blu-Ray or HD-DVD format) at a resolution somewhere between normal DVDs and HD.

 

HDMI is (supposedly) backwards-compatible with DVI, so that will cover quite a few HDTVs that lack an HDMI connector. The important point (from the manufacturers' and resellers' point-of-view), is that even on TVs without either connector, you'll still be able to watch Blu-Ray (or HD DVD) discs, even if it's not at full 1080p. For most consumers, they probably won't even notice the difference, and actually, the vast majority of HDTVs being sold now only support up to 720p anyway (they scale down 1080 content to fit). That's something they don't tell everyone who walks in the door at Best Buy. ;)

 

I agree with you that Blu-Ray will be a big plus for Sony, assuming the PS3 can remain cost competitive with the Xbox360.

 

I think Sony will make the cost competitive. They'll lose their shirts on the consoles, but make it up in software, movies and HDTV sales. And Blu-Ray licensing fees.

 

And since the Xbox360 doesn't have an HDMI jack, I have a sneaking suspicion HD-DVD won't be a simple add-on, but maybe a completely different console.

 

The XBox 360 not only doesn't have HDMI, but it doesn't have DVI either. Whether or not this can be added by a special cable, is something I don't know. But as it currently stands, whatever they offer for HD DVD playback, is either going to get funneled through the XBox's component output, or will have to have its own separate output. The latter option sounds really clunky to me, and doesn't make much sense. Why have something that's an "add-on" to the 360 with its own set of cables? (Of course, this is Microsoft we're talking about.) They don't seem to be thinking very far ahead as far as their "multimedia center" is concerned, do they?

 

Where Microsoft has apparently hit a goldmine is with downloadable content via Xbox Live Marketplace; something which doesn't appear to be on Sony's radar.

 

I think we'll see more online stuff out of Sony. After all, they're doing pretty well with Everquest, Star Wars Galaxies and such. I don't think it's escaped their attention.

 

Personally, I have a N64; which my 5 year loves for Mario Party 1-3; and a PC on which I play a lot of MAME & VPinMame, and of course a 7800+CC2.  But, I'm finding that I simply don't have the time to play games, and there's things I'd rather spend my $$ on to boot.

 

I'm a pretty cheap gamer. Most of the stuff I buy comes from the bargain bins, and I don't buy very much anyway. I got my PS2 for free, and I can't imagine spending more than around $150 on any console, so I think it's going to be a very long time before I own a PS3.

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HDMI is (supposedly) backwards-compatible with DVI, so that will cover quite a few HDTVs that lack an HDMI connector.

 

By design, most HD-DVDs will only play at 540 lines resolution into any machine that lacks an HDCP port and devices to convert HDCP to other formats will be absolutely positively forbidden.

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Yep - HDMI is a biggie.  I got a top of the line 65" HDTV 5+ years ago that only has analog inputs for the HD signal.  Works great with my cable TV and DVR.  I will not replace it until it dies, which means until then I have no incentive to buy into Blu-Ray or HD DVD.

 

For me, the incentive would be what movies became available on HD discs, how good they would look on my set, and what the cost would be.

 

At this point, I only own a standard-def TV anyway, but I'm hoping to get an HDTV this year. I'm pretty certain it would be a 720 set, since the 1080 ones are way out of my price range. Even so, 720 looks dramatically better than what I have now, so if the cost of Blu-Ray players was acceptable and there were enough compelling movies, I might look into upgrading. But that's a lot of "ifs" and "maybes". If the original Star Wars (without all of the extra "special edition" crap) came out on Blu-Ray, that would be a big incentive. Ain't gonna happen, but I can dream...

 

As an aside, after I wrote this whole entry, I noticed that Paramount had indeed committed to producing Blu-Ray titles.

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By design, most HD-DVDs will only play at 540 lines resolution into any machine that lacks an HDCP port and devices to convert HDCP to other formats will be absolutely positively forbidden.

 

Yeah, HDCP is HD's dirty-little-secret. If you're an early adopter of HDTV, you're kind of screwed. (Although I think anyone buying an HDTV even now is an early adopter.)

 

(HDCP, for those keeping score at home, is a copy-protection scheme for HD signals. It uses the DVI and HDMI connectors, and prohibits digital copying. If it doesn't detect an HDCP compliant port, it downsamples the signal so you can't make a full-resolution copy of the source material.)

 

Again, this is information I doubt they'll volunteer when you're buying a PS3 at Best Buy.

 

"So, will this PS3 work with my HDTV?"

 

"Sure!"

 

(later)

 

"Hey, how come my movies only play at 540p?"

 

"Well, you didn't ask how well it would work."

 

And forbidden or not - there will almost certainly be devices that will "fool" HDCP players, and be able to convert full-resolution HD signals for use with non-HDCP displays. (Not that I would ever condone something like that. ;) )

 

It would be interesting though, to see how much better a downsampled Blu-Ray disc looked at 540p, than a standard-def DVD does at 480. I would guess, based on it having more picture data to begin with, it would look noticeably better. Not as good as 720, but decent.

 

Anyway, Sony wants the PS3 (and Blu-Ray) to drive sales of new HDTVs. Despite this, I would assume that even though Blu-Ray movies are downsampled on non-HDCP ports, PS3 games would still play at high-def through any suitable connection. It'd be pretty stupid of Sony not to allow that.

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This seems odd...

Microsoft only wants to win because they can't stand to see someone else having more success than they do.

MS is a big company, with many assorted issues, but describing them as a petulant 5-yr old seems...odd.

 

I would imagine that MS wants to "win" because if they have a monopoly they can make boatloads of money. I have a hard time imagining the MS board of directors having hissy fits because they can't beat Sony.

 

And love 'em or hate 'em (does anybody love them?), MS has been extremely successful at creating software monopolies. Hardware is different, but I wouldn't write them off just yet.

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Wow, I can't believe anybody actually read all the way through it. ;)

Then you go and you post something about the Olympics so people miss it!

HDMI is (supposedly) backwards-compatible with DVI, so that will cover quite a few HDTVs that lack an HDMI connector.

The HDMI to DVI converter will be considered the same as analog component outputs for resolution limitting, which will be controlled by the content. So some movies may provide full HD resolution even through component outputs. (Just like some DVDs don't have Macrovision enabled or region coding.)

The important point (from the manufacturers' and resellers' point-of-view), is that even on TVs without either connector, you'll still be able to watch Blu-Ray (or HD DVD) discs, even if it's not at full 1080p. For most consumers, they probably won't even notice the difference, and actually, the vast majority of HDTVs being sold now only support up to 720p anyway (they scale down 1080 content to fit). That's something they don't tell everyone who walks in the door at Best Buy. :)

Heck, I bet there are many people who think they bought an HDTV when they actually got 858x480 (especially plasmas). Caveat Emptor, unfortunately.

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MS is a big company, with many assorted issues, but describing them as a petulant 5-yr old seems...odd. I have a hard time imagining the MS board of directors having hissy fits because they can't beat Sony.

 

There's a really good documentary called Triumph of the Nerds, which goes into Bill Gates' competitive nature, and how that has shaped Microsoft's business practices. I don't know if it's corporate policy to throw hissy fits, but I can certainly picture Steve Ballmer having one. ;)

 

And love 'em or hate 'em (does anybody love them?), MS has been extremely successful at creating software monopolies.  Hardware is different, but I wouldn't write them off just yet.

 

I'm not writing them off. I'm just saying they're going to come in second. :)

 

Then you go and you post something about the Olympics so people miss it!

 

But isn't that what the Olympics are all about? Pre-empting stuff people would normally watch? ;)

 

Heck, I bet there are many people who think they bought an HDTV when they actually got 858x480 (especially plasmas).  Caveat Emptor, unfortunately.

 

I remember seeing plasmas only a few years ago in the $15,000 - $20,000 range, and the same screen sizes are now running $3,000 - $4,000. Ouch.

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Interesting read. Couple thoughts :D

 

Xbox 360 defects were 4 to 5 times less than the Launch PS2 units, I don't have the numbers on me but eric_ruck does. And M$ had postage paid replacements. The shortages have definitely hurt them though.

 

I wonder how much high def and high def DVDs will really matter next gen. I got a DVD player pretty early on, but I'm not interested in upgrading to a new format yet. Also I have a 36" Sony WEGA that I'll probably keep until it dies. And while all of us on AtariAge are not typical core gamers (by default :)) I do own a PS2, Cube, Xbox and DS, so I'm still a part of the target audience...

 

I was thinking of maybe picking up a 360 as I am selling off some of my games that I don't play. The in cockpit view in PGR3 sounds very cool. But conversely, I bet I could have a lot of racing fun with GT4 which is like $20 now... :cool:

 

Having been burned by the promise of PS2 (which was eventually remedied with ICO), I am wary of the PS3 until I see real demos.

 

My console punditry:

 

1) Microsoft will gain marketshare but may stay number 2.

2) Sony will lose marketshare but may stay number 1.

3) Nintendo will gain marketshare (particularly in Japan) and will be very close to Sony and MSoft.

4) It will be almost a three way tie.

 

My advice to Microsoft:

1) Get some content that Japan is interested in.

2) Develop or nuture some games that are more than PC/guy centric. My girlfriend will not play Xbox.

3) Pay Minter to develop a new Tempest or other twitch game for Xbox 360 arcade (personal wish :D )

 

Bonus handheld puditry:

The DS will win in all regions, unless Sony stops making console ports and starts making compelling pick up and play PSP games...

 

Cheers,

Ben

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I wonder how much high def and high def DVDs will really matter next gen.  I got a DVD player pretty early on, but I'm not interested in upgrading to a new format yet.  Also I have a 36" Sony WEGA that I'll probably keep until it dies.

I think it will matter in that it's a feature Sony can tout that Microsoft can't. The capabilities of the consoles otherwise are close enough to basically be on par with each other. It will matter more in the long run than initially, because it's something MS will have to address sooner or later for the 360 to be considered the core of a home entertainment system (which is what MS wants it to be). Sony will have that up front for those that want it. Content, however, is what will drive adoption of HD. Not the hardware. So Blu-Ray discs had better have some pretty compelling stuff on them.

 

It also matters in that it gives Sony more of a reason to sell the PS3 at whatever cost won't bleed the company dry. I've read that the estimated manufacturing costs are expected to run $900 per unit. So to sell any of these, Sony's going to have to eat a lot of that, and make up for it in software and movies. Selling HD movies is a big part of Sony's future plans. They have much more at stake with HD than Microsoft does, since they manufacture so much HD gear for the professional market.

 

I'd really like to get into E3 this year. I've gone a couple of times before, but couldn't spend a lot of time there. This year should be very interesting, indeed. I'd love to get a good look at the Revolution and PS3 in action.

 

3) Nintendo will gain marketshare (particularly in Japan) and will be very close to Sony and MSoft.

4) It will be almost a three way tie.

I'd like to see that happen. Nothing would make me happier than see Nintendo give Sony and MS a run for their money. Unique ideas should be rewarded in gaming (if they're good, of course).

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Been reading some stuff lately about Sony's issues with the PS3 and Blu-Ray, and IMO if Sony takes until the end of the year to get the PS3 out, MS will built up a sizeable lead, since I would imagine that they will solve the shortage problem fairly soon and a year is a long time for gamers to wait for the PS3 while the 360 sits on the store shelves with more and more games available.

 

However - assuming Blu-Ray doesn't go the way of BetaMax, I think Sony will catch up eventually because the PS3 will have HD built in.

 

But I'm starting to think that Sony is close to having bit off more than they can chew.

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Been reading some stuff lately about Sony's issues with the PS3 and Blu-Ray, and IMO if Sony takes until the end of the year to get the PS3 out, MS will built up a sizeable lead, since I would imagine that they will solve the shortage problem fairly soon and a year is a long time for gamers to wait for the PS3 while the 360 sits on the store shelves with more and more games available.

 

However - assuming Blu-Ray doesn't go the way of BetaMax, I think Sony will catch up eventually because the PS3 will have HD built in.

 

But I'm starting to think that Sony is close to having bit off more than they can chew.

 

I couldn't disagree with this more. It's becoming more and more apparent that BluRay is winning out (as it should!) and will be the new disc storage standard. And while it's sure to get replaced soon, it will be around long enough to make it worth Sony's while. As storage capacity continues to increase ever more quickly, I think each new standard will have a shorter and shorter life... something we're just off the edge of the cusp from right now.

 

Secondly, Microsoft doesn't really have any games for the 360 yet. Of course they have games you can play, but there is mostly a bunch of EA (another crappy company) style sports games which are largely incomplete- and most still play better on the old standard and year. There are hardly any console specific games which would lend to buying a 360, and definetely no "must haves" within those.

 

Finally a lot of geeks hate Microsoft, myself included. I don't feel I'm letting this cloud my judgement (or saying Sony is better). However, from the video industry I have come to see how utterly reliable their products are, and own very little equipment without their name tattoed on the side. You will of course pay a little more for it, but it's the only one of the six major video brand products which hasn't failed me in some aspect on a shoot.

 

Basically, until 360 gets a game or two that kicks PS2's ass, I don't think anyone except Santa will be running out to buy one. Not that they'd be available, even if you wanted to go purchase one. Sony has owned the games market for the last decade, and I think gamers will repay that with brand loyalty... at least until it fails them in the future.

 

-JD

 

Something that's gone unmentioned here though... I think PC games could cut a much bigger chunk from their dominance than either Microsoft or Nintendo. With MMP online games becoming ever more popular, I think it will start to grab people by the masses away from the console market. Why spend $400 just for the box, when you can buy the game and pay 5 or 10 bucks a month to play on something you already own.

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I couldn't disagree with this more.  It's becoming more and more apparent that BluRay is winning out (as it should!) and will be the new disc storage standard.

I dunno. Everything I've read says that retailers are counseling prospective buyers to wait to purchase. That doesn't sound like a win. And the NYT just reported (last week) that a bunch of companies that had committed to Blu-Ray were now hedging their bets and publicly saying that they would support both formats.

 

And "it should"?

Secondly, Microsoft doesn't really have any games for the 360 yet.

This is kind of my point: if Sony can get the PS3 on shelves in the next few months, they could probably blow the 360 out of the water. If they make gamers wait another year, that's plenty of time for the several killer apps to come out for the 360. And if that happens, I don't think gamers will sit on their wallets for months and months. If.

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Agreed, but seven months is a long time. If several truly kickazz games don't come out for the 360 during that time I'll be very surprised.

 

This certainly makes things more interesting, though. :thumbsup:

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Well, Sony now has a Blu-Ray player listed on their website. "Only" $999. I suppose that's about in line with what DVD players cost initially.

 

What's interesting though, is on their Learn more about Blu-Ray page, there's a blurb about how many movie studios will be supporting it, yet there's no link indicating that any such movies are actually available. :thumbsup: (Of course, there's no indication that the player itself is actually available yet, either.)

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I haven't been paying attention to the 360 versus PS3 battle. Now that we've been through a Christmas, how have you fared regarding your predictions?

 

I agree with your assessment of Microsoft being a reactive company. This is by design. I believe that they yearned to be an innovator but found success by reacting and out-competing. Now this is now a template for their success. The paranoid CEO can be a successful CEO. Bill learned from the mistakes of past giants who didn't react quickly to the changing tides of technology. It is because of this, and how quickly you can fall by 'not reacting' that this has become a core principle at MS.

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I haven't been paying attention to the 360 versus PS3 battle. Now that we've been through a Christmas, how have you fared regarding your predictions?

Good question. I think at this point, it's a little too early to tell. So far though, Sony's not faring as well as I thought they would.

 

I didn't expect the PS3 to be $200 more than the XBox 360. Nor did I expect the huge delay in Sony getting the PS3 to market. I did, however, expect Sony to have problems meeting demand, but I thought that would come from IBM (and it still might, at some point), rather than a shortage of blue laser diodes. Right now, Sony has a lot of work to do to catch up. I think they can, but they have to get their supply problems worked out, and more important - they need a price cut.

 

I think MS will do one of two things this year, before the holiday buying season. Either they'll cut the price of the XBox 360, or they'll integrate an HD-DVD player into it at the same price point. Either way, Sony has to respond by making the PS3 more competitive, price-wise. It's just too expensive to get the kind of market saturation the PS2 had. Sony has already dumped an estimated $2 billion into the PS3 hardware, so they're already committed to it, and to their plan to make that back off of software sales (and Blu-Ray, which I'll get to in a minute). They should adopt Nolan Bushnell's theory about basically giving away the hardware in order to dominate the software market (this was his suggestion to Time Warner, since by giving away the 2600, they'd have an overnight demand for software). While actually giving the PS3 away is completely impractical, they do need to get the price down out of the stratosphere. I think a lot of PS2 owners are waiting for that (and more compelling software).

 

If Sony can work out those two problems (supply and pricing), I think by the end of the 2007 holiday shopping season, they can catch up to the XBox 360, and eventually pass it. Especially in Japan, where the XBox 360 was actually outsold for most of 2006 by the Game Boy Micro. (Yes, you read that right - the Micro.)

 

Speaking of Nintendo, as far as I've been able to find out, the current sales figures are about 10.4 million for the XBox 360 (after 13 months), 1.2 million for the PS3 (after 1 1/2 months), and 3.2 million for the Wii (after 1 1/2 months). These figures are about a month old, but they show that if the Wii keeps up this pace, it's going to clean both Sony's and Microsoft's respective clocks. I'm thrilled to see that gameplay is winning out over graphics. I think the Wii has a really good chance of being the dominant console this time around, for a few reasons: 1) Casual gamers (and non-gamers) are attracted by it. The commercials for the console are designed to appeal to everyone, not just people looking to play Final Fantasy* MCMLXXII or Halo 12. It's a game system for people - not just "gamers". 2) Gamers will buy it anyway, because there are gaming experiences they won't be able to get on the other consoles. 3) It's cheaper than the competition, and completely reasonable for both the typical electronics consumer to buy, and for gamers to get as a second system. We'll see a lot of people buying an XBox 360 or PS3 and a Wii.

 

The whole Blu-Ray advantage really hasn't materialized for Sony. The delay in getting the PS3 to market hurt, because it gave HD-DVD time to get a foothold.

 

The other factor regarding HD discs, which I didn't consider, is that most of the studios don't really seem to care which format wins the HD disc war. They seem content to put their films out in both formats for now. I think a lot of this is just testing the waters, to see how well HD discs of any sort sell. Ultimately, one format will gain a sales advantage over the other, and that's the one the studios will go with.

 

I still think it will be Blu-Ray, for a couple of reasons. 1) Sony is going to ram it down our throats, at any cost to them, and they have their own movie studio to back it up (you can bet Sony films will not be coming out on HD-DVD). 2) Disney, so far, is only slated to support Blu-Ray. Disney movies are America's baby-sitters. Although evil, Disney's plan of only releasing their titles for a limited time is marketing brilliance. Why? Because, people keep having kids. Parents who have kids next year, and can't find Little Mermaid on DVD are going to have to buy it on Blu-Ray. At first, this is going to be limited to those few who can afford a Blu-Ray player, but as with DVD players, the prices will come down fast enough.

 

The format winner will be decided by sales numbers in terms of movies sold. Disney will be a large factor in tipping the scales towards Blu-Ray. Once more studios decide Blu-Ray is the way to go, HD-DVD will go the way of Divx-DVDs (remember them?).

 

Of course, I'm perfectly willing to accept the fact that I may be completely wrong about all of this. :)

 

I don't think that the PS3 will be as much of the driving force behind Blu-Ray, as I originally thought. The sales of HD TVs will. And in fact, HD TV sales could drive PS3 sales, if Sony played their cards right.

 

The phenomenal sales of HD TVs has completely taken me by surprise - especially the price cuts. HD TVs cost about half of what they did a year ago, and you can hardly even find a 4:3 standard definition TV now, without doing some looking. There are a lot of people with really big TVs out there, and if Sony slashed the price of the PS3 so everyone with an HD TV could buy one, this would spur software and movie sales, and throw Blu-Ray (and the PS3) firmly into the lead. However, Sony may not be able to build enough consoles to pull that off, nor be willing to spend that kind of money.

 

* I've always wondered... if it's called "Final" Fantasy, why do they keep making them?

I agree with your assessment of Microsoft being a reactive company. This is by design. I believe that they yearned to be an innovator but found success by reacting and out-competing. Now this is now a template for their success. The paranoid CEO can be a successful CEO. Bill learned from the mistakes of past giants who didn't react quickly to the changing tides of technology. It is because of this, and how quickly you can fall by 'not reacting' that this has become a core principle at MS.

Bill got all bent out of shape recently about Apple's ads. Not sure why he's so upset, because Apple is no threat to Microsoft's market share. The only thing I can figure out, is that Bill is still the same picked-on nerd that he was in high-school, and he hates Steve Jobs because Steve is that "cool" kid the bullies never pantsed in gym class. One of the things he goes off on, is about security vulnerabilities in OS X vs. Windows. Of course OS X is vulnerable. But what makes it more "secure" is that hackers aren't interested in it. If Apple has a 3% market share, what kind of damage can you do with a virus? Let's say you write a phenomenally successful virus that effects a whopping 50% of all targeted computers. Well, if it's a Mac virus, guess what? That's only 1.5% of all computer users. You can effect the same amount by writing a Windows virus that is only about 2% effective. (Yes, I'm sure my math is off. Sorry.) It's a matter of the size of the target, and the damage you can do. Windows is a big target. Plus, nerds are more fun to pick on than cool kids. Ask any bully.

 

I think Bill's "picked-on nerd" side really got the better of him in this interview though. He never, ever should have said this:

Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine.

Man... that's just asking to be pantsed.

 

 

Edit: Incidentally, I think I've found another reason Bill Gates doesn't like the Apple ads...

 

fake_steve.jpgfake_bill.jpg

 

Notice any similarities? :)

 

steve_jobs.jpgbill_gates.jpg

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I agree that the explosion in widescreen displays has been astounding. Now, what percentage of those displays are HD capable (and not some EDTV 858x480 or 1024x768 16:9 plasma), are actually used to display HD content, and have an HMDI (w/HDCP) port, is a completely different question.

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