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I know... :^\ I saw a few things in there that I'd like to have, myself, but I can't get anywhere near him before he has to move. :^(

Hello all! A friend of mine is moving in less than 1 week and needs to let A LOT of his stuff go ASAP. There are hours posted in the message below, but he has told me that if someone needs to meet up at a different time, he is flexible and you'd just need to contact him. His email address is: rockotiger@gmail.com Here is the treasure trove of stuff, as emailed to me: an itemized list and a link to the Craigs List ad with pics. https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/sys/d/anaheim-vintage-retro-computers-crts/7738285452.html I'm letting go of most of my vintage/retro computers and electronics as I'm moving soon! The sale will be this weekend: Saturday, April 20 - 9am to 4pm Sunday, April 21 10am to 4pm Browse or buy early by appointment 9am to 8pm Wednesday, Thursday and Friday The Sale will be at: 1401 N Batavia St Orange, CA 92867 CRTs: 5" Panasonic B&W TV & FM Radio $10 14" Sony PVM-14N5U - $200 20" Sony PVM-20M4U HR Trinitron CRT Monitor - $700 20" Sony KV-20TS27 - $120 11" Panasonic CT-1111D $80 12" Zenith ZVM-121 (Green Monochrome) $80 12" Zenith ZVM-123A (Green Monochrome) $80 15" Commodore 1070 Analog RGB Monitor for Amiga Computers - $100 14" Commodore 1084S-D1 Stereo RGB & Composite Monitor for Amiga or C64 - $200 14" Commodore 1960 MultiSync RGB & VGA Monitor - $300 14" Compaq VGA Monitor & PS/2 Compaq Keyboard & Compaq 486 Motherboard, RAM & HDD - $100 17" Compaq 7550 1600x1200 VGA input Flat CRT Monitor + Original Box $150 Goldstar ViewMax VHS Cassette Player & 5" Color CRT Portable - $100 Unisys Mini Pentium 133MHz PC 32MB RAM Win98 KB/Mouse/Monitor - $150 Asus Eee-Top All-in-One Touchscreen PC (Windows XP) + Keyboard & Mouse $80 Commodore PC40-III 286 PC with Commodore Keyboard - $200 Poqet PC Handheld IBM Clone 8088 MS-DOS 3.3 Computer (with box & adapters) - $200 Compaq Presario 5528 All-in-One Pentium Multi-Media PC with Original Accessories - $200 Gateway 2000 486DX/33MHz Windows 95 PC - $100 LAPTOPS: Toshiba T1200 Early Laptop - $20 Gateway 2000 Colorbook 486 Laptop with matching laptop bag + AC Adapter - $40 Other laptops - $10 and up Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 64K with Box, book, joystick, & Audio Spectrum Analyzer Cart - $100 APPLE II COMPUTERS: Apple IIc + 9" Monochrome Monitor + Imagewriter II + Manuals & disks - $300 Apple IIgs Computer with Upgrades! - $350 Apple IIe - Complete but needs Power Supply to be repaired or replaced - $50 COMPACT MACS: Macintosh Plus + Keyboard + Mouse + Manual - Has issues - $50 OTHER MACS: Performa 475 + 13" Apple M1212 Trinitron CRT (CRT has been re-capped) + Keyboard + Mouse + SCSI SSD - $400 Power Macintosh 6500 + Keyboard & Mouse - Needs re-cap - $50 Power Macintosh G4 500MHz, 1.5GB RAM, 9GB SCSI, SuperDrive, Zip100 + KB & Mouse - $100 Original 2006 Mac Pro with 2x Dual-Core Xeon 2.66GHz, 32GB RAM + Keyboard + Mouse - $100 iMacs: Original Bondi Blue iMac G3 + Keyoard & Mouse - $150 Snow iMac G3 600MHz + Keyboard & Mouse - $150 iMac G4 800MHz + Keyboard & Mouse - $100 I have some Commodore 64 computers and probably a few 1541 drives. Amiga 500 not working for parts - $50 Nintendo Super Famicom with Original Box, 2 Controllers, AV Cable, SD2SNES loaded with all SNES & SFC Games. Also includes Hard-sided Carrying Case. - $200 Boxed Software for PC, Mac, Amiga and C64 - $5 to $10 CD Software in Jewel cases for PC or Mac - $1 each Computer and video game books - $1 each Wyse WY-55 Data Terminal - $40 Heathkit Terminal H19A - $200 Lear Siegler LSI ADM-3A Terminal - $200 Smith Corona Manual Typewriter circa 1950 WORKS - $100 Brother portable typewriter with extra ribbons - $10 Western Electric and other Landline Phones - $10 Each Technics Digital Organ Musical Keyboard & MIDI Sequencer - $20 Texas Instruments Speak & Spell - $10 Commodore Adding Machines - $20 each Calculators - $1 each Early Calculators with VFD Display - $5 Digital Cameras - $5 and up LCD Monitors - $5 Radio Shack Realistic APM-200 Audio Power Meter - $100 Routers - $5 PDAs - $1 to $10 Joysticks - $1 Computer Speakers - $5 to $10 USB Computer Keyboards - $1 Mechanical USB Keyboards - $10 PS/2 Computer Keyboards - $1 USB, PS/2 or Serial Computer Mouses - $1 USB Gaming Mouse - $10 Apple ADB or USB Mouse - $5 Apple ADB or USB Keyboard $5 to $20 Radio Shack Catalogs - $1 each Sears Catalogs - $1 Each Cassette Recorders - $5 VGA Cables - $1 DVI Cables - $1 Composite video cables - $1 Apple 8 Pin Serial Cables - $1 Apple ADB Cables - $1

Seriously! It took me decades to get my hands on one! I finally had to bring one over from the UK, which I believe was your suggestion... wasn't it? Anyhow, fun machine for sure! 👍

"Hey, taxi... pad four, please."😊 That's reaching back a ways! This will be great on the A8! I am waiting with baited breath (Pew)!

1. The Atari 400 2. The Amiga 3. The Lazarus Cool story!👍

Oh yeah, you're totally right... I was just sighting early examples in the industry when no particular platform was "industry standard" yet. I didn't mention multi I/O cards on the PC because I was focusing on the machines that were available when the early Macs, ST's, etc. had hit the market at large. When I built my first XT back in the 80's, that was what I had to deal with; eight slots, most of them full just to get basic functionality out of the thing. When I built my first 286, that was a different story... "You mean I can have two serial, a parallel, a game port, high density floppy control AND RLL hard disks off of one 16-bit card?! Whoa!!!" LOL

Absolutely. A whole lot of people went PC crazy over here when there were far better choices available that did a lot more for a lot less (basically anything that wasn't a DOS PC). Almost as if we (in the USA) were the only ones who didn't "get it." It reminds me of the war between VHS and Betamax - Betamax was superior in practically every way, but VHS is what caught on. There are a few parallels there if you look for them. I used to have the argument with my PC user friends wherein they would scoff at whatever computer I had at the time and tell me that theirs had all these expansion slots. It used to burn their backsides when I would point out that you would have to fill all of them to do what my my C=64/IIgs/ST/Amiga/Mac (not necessarily in that order) did right out of the box. Back then, the PC was kind of a silly concept... "OK, here's this bus. Oh, you want to hook up a monitor? That'll take one card slot. You want a floppy drive controller? Another card slot. Serial? Parallel? Game ports? There go three more." That still doesn't even consider a hard disk controller, a trashy sound card or anything auxiliary. I didn't include any of my ][+ or //e machines from back in the day above because some of the basic functionality did have to come from bus slots, but at least you could hook up a monitor, a cassette recorder and a joystick to get started.

Yep... I came across an odd 810 in a wooden case a few years back, which I gave to a friend who had no FDD. I was buying something from Bruce and mentioned this drive in an e-mail. He confirmed that he had built 810's to order in whatever cases he could find that would fit and that it definitely sounded like one of his. I kind of wish I still had it... 🤔

Yikes! I thought SCSI was around commercially a year or two before that. My mistake. At that time I had a C=64 w/datasette, so even a cruddy 1541 was a dream.

A standard HDD interface (ANSI SCSI)!

Yes. This. 👍

I really hope so... we, the global community of Atarians need both of them.

A thing of beauty is a joy forever... 😊

I use the PSU from an Atari 810 FDD on my 400. Same power supply but heavier duty. If memory serves (which doesn't always happen), it is a 50w power supply as opposed to the original 18w unit that came with the 400 & 800 back in the day. Best Electronics and B&C Computervisions (myatari on ebay) have them NOS.

I'd like to throw Typhoon Thompson into the mix. 😊

My first Atari computer was a gently used 1040STf w/SC1224 that I picked up for $350 circa 1992. That's about it. My second Atari computer is a much more interesting story - a used 1200XL that I found at a computer thrift shop in Santa Cruz, CA (USA), circa 1996. The shop in question had a penchant for screwing people over and had done so to several people I knew (myself included). I saw the 1200XL sitting on a shelf with a sticker on it marked $50. I peeled the sticker off and went up to the counter. I showed the machine to the derelict-of-the-week and told him I'd give him $25 for it. He looked at it for a second and replied "Uhhhmm... sure, I guess." I gave him the $25 and walked out with it quite happily. I had fun with it until I found out how few of them there were in existence, so I bought a used 800XL to put the mileage on and gave the 1200XL to a friend who had never seen one in person before (a VERY serious French Atari collector).

That reminds me... I bought a set of TT Touch silicone cups a few years ago and still haven't used it. I'm thinking that I will slip them into my 520ST and be the 51st subjective person you could ask for an answer... 😁

Nice! Thanks!

Here's mine (NTSC):

I always figured it was a way to offer a cheaper option. Lower costs means lower prices... unless you are Apple, but that's another story. LOL🤣

Yeah, I have a friend who has always been a Commodore/Amiga guy, but has generally respected Atari and its place in the world. He has recently gotten an 800XL and is getting some sort of SD device for it, if memory serves. He has also recently gotten a similar device for his Atari 7800 that requires a PoKey chip to be installed into it for some things (like the forementioned Ballblazer). He hadn't been able to get his knuckles around a PoKey chip and was almost going to bite the bullet, plunk down a bunch of money for an FPGA-based replacement to put into the 800XL and taking the 800XL's original PoKey for the 7800. I sent him one of my last spares for which he was very grateful, but that takes me down to only two spares left (one very used, one brand new). Yikes. The unfortunate thing about many of the arcade games that used multiple PoKeys is that AFAIK, many of them used a variant that didn't have the I/O capability built-in. They were literally just PoKey sound chips. I say it's unfortunate because now that restoring old arcade boards is a big thing, you might have to cannibalize 3 or 4 Atari 8-bit computers that legitimately need full PoKeys to operate in order to pull it off. Ah... I remember the days when PoKeys were $10 from Best Electronics, no limit. Those were the days... ☹️

No, I wish I did. Heck, I wish I still had the drive!

He was a total micro-manager for sure, but I don't believe that he was trying to shoehorn his three sons into running the company. Leonard Tramiel has spoken against this on numerous occasions and has pointed out that while he was in HS and college, he had worked for Jack during the summers but was not even an employee of Commodore when all of the stuff between Jack Tramiel and Irving Gould came to a head. At that time, Sam was running Commodore Japan and continued to do so for a few months after Jack had left. Garry was working for a big-time Commodore dealer of some sort on the East Coast, U.S. at that time (I can't remember which, to be honest) and was also not directly employed by Commodore. According to Leonard Tramiel and several Commodore people from back in the day (Bil Herd comes to mind), the "My Three Sons" story was one of several rumors that Commodore spread about the employees to attempt to justify their ousting of Jack Tramiel as president. While all three of them did work at Atari when Jack took it over, the situation was different. Garry and Sam had probably wanted to distance themselves from Commodore since their father left on not-so-great terms and Leonard was actually on his honeymoon when Jack told him that he was starting a new company from the ruins of Atari and needed his help in software development. I don't really know if all of this is true and am just going on what I have heard in person from both Leonard Tramiel and Bil Herd on more than one occasion. I was not quite 12 years old when Jack left Commodore and have no first-hand experience (no flame wars, please). I will say this... be careful what you read in Wikipedia; though much of it is good information, anyone with an IP address can edit an article for all the world to see. Not even an e-mail address is required anymore, if I understand it correctly. Take for example the fact that almost everyone involved with Commodore in the late 1970's to early 1980's knows that the VIC-20 was based on the Commodore Japan VIC-1001 machine, yet Michael Tomczyk claims that it was all his idea. Sheesh. Again, I wasn't there and don't know for sure, just going on what I have heard (personally) from people who were involved in one fashion or another. Something I think that we can all agree on, though; Jack Tramiel saved Atari as Irving Gould saved Commodore. You have to take the good with the bad. After all, without Jack there would have been no ST. 🤔

I had one, once... Funny thing is that I had a dialogue with Bruce about 6 or 7 years ago when I was ordering something via e-mail and I described an odd, wooden 810 that I had in my stuff. I told him that it appeared to have been built into a wooden 5.25" floppy disk storage case with a sliding top. He said that it was probably one of his because he had plenty of boards, drive mechanisms and power supplies but no housings to put them in. I showed him a pic and he confirmed that he had built it to order for someone in the late 1980's or early 1990's. One of the many times that I have needed to downsize, I ended up donating it to a friend for his classic computer museum that he was trying to start. The museum never ended up happening and he just griped up street and down alley that it wasn't stock and perfect-looking. I should've kept it... 😢

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