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  1. Hello Random, I found references on release dates for Apollo games at this link: www.atariarchive.org/atari-vcs-game-release-dates written by Kevin Bunch. It seems to me that the Apollo sales documents attached to the Atari report, had a forecast date for launching on the market and with a suggested retail value. At that moment there would already be 2 games available for sale on the market: Skeet Shoot and Spacechase. There is an Apollo catalog listed at Atariage with copyright from 1981 listing the first 2 games. Link to access: atariage.com/catalog_overview.php?SystemID=2600&CatalogID=65 Listing of launches according to the website: 1981 DECEMBER: Skeet Shoot (December 7) - Source: Electronic Fun, January 1983; Anderson Daily Bulletin, January 26 1982; Computer Entertainer, April 1982 1982 JANUARY: Spacechase - Source: Computer Entertainer, April 1982; Videogaming Illustrated, August 1982 JUNE: Space Cavern - Source: Chicago Tribune, June 6 1982; Computer Entertainer July 1982 Racquetball - Source: Chicago Tribune, June 6 1982 Lost Luggage - Source: Chicago Tribune, June 6 1982; Philadelphia Inquirer, June 13 1982; Baltimore Sun, June 18 1982; Computer Entertainer, July 1982 Lochjaw (rereleased as Shark Attack in August) - Source: Chicago Tribune, June 6 1982; Philadelphia Inquirer, June 13 1982; Baltimore Sun, June 18 1982 Daniel
  2. They are hard to find, I have already identified two variations of the manual © 1986 black and white! I will try to send one of the versions to the list!
  3. After all, when were the text labels modified for images on the Atari 2600 cartridges? ======================================================== Throughout the research, I find versions of boxes carrying at the same time cartridges with text labels and labels with images, so some doubts inhabit my thoughts: After all, when did the labels change? Can a box version carry both types of labels? Could this mix happen through sales? And to answer, I follow in the footsteps ... Going back in time and space. ==================== More precisely at the launch of the third version of the Atari 2600 game box (November 1978 - June 1981), version C014060 (guarantee with bottom of the same color of the box and © outside). For a long time Atari has used this version for sales, with a total of thirty-six games registered so far, initially thirty-five with the text label series and an image label! Many games were released in the period of this release, including: 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe, Adventure, Backgammon, Basic Programming, Championship Soccer, Circus Atari, Dodge 'Em, Golf, Maze Craze, Night Driver, Othello, Space Invaders , Superman, Video Checkers, Video Chess, Video Pinball. Large businesses are never simple, with the need for change an even more doubt arises. After all what to do with the leftover material from the graphic change? A pause for reflection. And I catch a glimpse of a moment I call transition, light at the end of the tunnel! A new label series is born and a new box version is added. ====================================== Along with the arrival of the new series of labels, it is launched in a new box version, version G-C017039 v. 1 (guarantee with white background and © outside). The boxes were manufactured from March 1981 to May 1981 and receive rev. 1 in the registry. Three classics are released along with this version, they are: Asteroids, Missile Command and Warlords. Eight games released in the previous version, receive the picture label: Adventure, Circus Atari, Dodge´Em Golf, Night Driver, Space Invaders and Superman. And with a new label, Championship Soccer is now called Pele´s Soccer! And Atari also distributes in this version many text labels such as: Slot Racers, Space Invaders and Street Racer, among others. My conclusions =========== At the time of the arrival of the new series of labels, Atari needed to create a transition way to dispose of the stocked manufacturing items such as the labels, manuals and boxes of the old version. Therefore, the transition occurred between the versions of boxes C014060 and G-C017039 v. 1, from 1981. I hope I contributed, good weekend to everyone!
  4. The transition of labels

    After all, when were the text labels modified for images on the Atari 2600 cartridges? Following the steps...

  5. Website update: I added the copyright edition record for the Atari Corp period gray label series cartridges The list is organized by: label series -> box version -> copyright editions of the label. access link: www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-gray-label
  6. Website update: I added the registration of copyright editions for the Atari Corp period red label series cartridges. The list is organized by: label series -> box version -> copyright editions of the label. access link: www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-red-label
  7. When I think of labels outside the curve like Defender (blue), Breakout (orange) and Hangman (gray), I always had doubts about the printing period! And here is a case. I was thinking about 1990 or maybe early 1991, but never in April 1992! The records indicate small quantities and always pointing to items from multiple languages. This is the newest box print log I've found so far! I would like to share this with: @Philflound and @Random Terrain
  8. Website update: I added the registration of copyright editions to the Atari Corp period black label series cartridges. access link: www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label-corp
  9. Beautiful version of Slot Racers, I'm fascinated by multiple language versions, especially when they receive a different color in the box like Berzerk, Canyon Bomber, Warlords, Video Pinball. Monday I will update the files. Thank you very much for your contribution and all your Groundtrooper support. Hugs
  10. Hello Ballblaɀer this is one of the documents that I use when crossing data in my research, including the same date version, I believe that there is a later one, I think that April 1984, Curt Vendel quotes at some point in his posts. Excellent point of view, I totally agree with you on this aspect. The exact point is that we cannot consider the information as definitive, many times a certain version or game was not released just for commercial reasons. Initially I do not intend to list revisions of versions, copyrights of cartridges or boxes. I believe that showing the community the research project and collecting the existing versions will provide a basis for the construction of the sets in the future. Thank you very much for your contribution, if you have any of the records on the list to validate, please send.
  11. Excellent approach on the third party industries, the explanation of the strategies of each one was also very cool. I like to think how they did to gain space in sales. Offering new games like Activision or featuring classics like Atari, being based on famous films or characters like 20th Century Fox, Parker Brothers or M Network. Anyway the race was open! Congratulations.
  12. About the box records, their versions and variations: =================================== To better exemplify the crossing of records and information I will use the box versions of the black label series from the game Asteroids. Black label series: https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label Box version G-C017039 v.1 (white background warranty box, © outside warranty box) https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label/box-g-c017039-v-1 It was identified in this version of the game Asteroids so far only the variation of the Glued Flap box opening, in the tab contains Rev.1 and so far I have not identified any cartridge with a date stamp on END LABEL. GLUED FLAP: BERTCO GRAPHICS 05/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.1 without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. Box version G-C017039 v.2 (white background warranty box, © inside warranty box) https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label/box-g-c017039-v-2 This box version of the Asteroids black label series, was found in three opening variations: Standard Flap, Glued Flap and Tap Flap. STANDARD FLAP: ADAPK SAN FRANCISCO 9/81, 10/81 G-C017039-49 REV.2 without DS at END LABEL GLUED FLAP: ADAPK SAN FRANCISCO 07/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.2 and small number (1), without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. GLUED FLAP: BERTCO GRAPHICS 07 and 09/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.2 and small number (6), on the cartridge I identified labels with DS (*Date Stamp) and without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. TAP FLAP: NO REGISTRATION INFORMATION (I need information about this variation). All versions contain white manual and black label. However, there were different manufacturing cycles. I have dated a range of 03 years of label printing only in the box version G-C017039 v.2. * DATE STAMP REGISTERED (May 1981 -> October 1984): 1981 -> 22 1 - 32 1 - 33 1 - 35 1 R - 36 1 R - 43 1 1982 -> 01 2 - 1 2 - 02 2 - 05 2 - 11 2 R (BOLD) - 12 2 R - 22 2 - 22 2 R (BOLD) - 49 2 R (BOLD) 1984 -> 13 4 - 13 4 R - 18 4 - 19 4 (BOLD) - 20 4 - 23 4 (BOLD) - 24 4 (BOLD) - 25 4 R - 41 4
  13. It seems to me that the information posted by Ranthurf reinforces, where each printing company has its form of registration and traceability. This topic really helps a lot in building dates!
  14. Random Terrain, you made an excellent contribution, this is one of the posts that inspires me to work on my research line. About the tab information: I believe that while one tab presents information about the printing industry as a company and date of manufacture of the box, on the other tab we find information regarding the gaming industry such as serial number, corresponding game number and rev. version. In parallel with the capture of records, I will update the information and evidence found through this post. I reiterate the invitation to everyone who can send images of the tabs of the missing games containing the game registration and Rev., it will help, thank you. Daniel
  15. It would be an excellent name to contribute, @Random Terrain is a reference and a profound researcher. I would like to hear his opinion!
  16. Kirkland, thanks for the contribution. On the project website (Atari Openbox) there is a link showing about dates and printers in boxes, labels and manuals: https://www.atariopenbox.com/about-help @Philflound posted a video with great information about the evolution of the Atari 2600 boxes that I recommend everyone to watch: https://youtu.be/HuywSZVbDmQ
  17. I would like the Hangman and Hunt & Score scans. My basketball too is Bertco Graphics It's a good line of reasoning from you. For the quality control of the industry it would be good, it helps to identify the lot that belonged to the box.
  18. Thank you so much Phil, your work at Videogamevariations is amazing! On this subject cited (lower number. "2", "3" and "6"), I believe that it will be one of the doubts that the research may reveal from the massive inclusion of records. We have some findings in your sample such as: The box may have been printed at a certain time and the numbering at another (note that the numbers identified on the same tab are not aligned and are not even the same typography. So we can have up to 3 different printing periods on the same material. I believe that the boxes also had editions (as well as books and other printed products) and this is characterized at various times in the history of the game series, either by the date of printing or the type of opening of the box. About Basket I have a "2 BERTCO (08 78)" and you showed two records "3 and 6 BERTCO (08 78)". I aligned the tabs in an image and none has the number in the same print location and not the same inclination. I think it characterizes the different moments of impression. PS: I already validated the Slot Racer in the Game Program version, now there are 12 validated out of 20. Hugs; Daniel
  19. Thank you jeremiahjt, it is a really big project. Yes they are separate, to see all versions of text label boxes go to: https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-text-label Regards; Daniel
  20. I have long wondered how Atari built the series of games and their versions. To this end, I started researching the subject. My name is Daniel Medina and in this topic I would like to present my research project for the reconstruction of the Atari game series. RECONSTITUTION OF ATARI 2600 GAME COLLECTIONS. ==================================== I developed a website with the purpose of supporting the project and the research, so that everyone can follow the updates of the information found. On the website you will find all the explanation about the project, the method used, where to find the cataloged information and you will also be able to identify which games formed the series and their versions. I use as a study base in the research information from any and all catalog numbers available in the game sets, I also use data from Atari documents, Internet pages and sealed or complete games for catalog records. After a year of work, I defined as the initial indexing point for building a database, a number found in the boxes that I call PSN (PART SERIAL NUMBER), are found in the small tabs, usually along with the review. Through them I identify the series it belongs to and the game it contains. I have already identified 495 versions of boxes and validated 185 of them, my intention is to open the community to validate other versions and discover new ones. The idea is also that everyone can participate, sending version inclusions through channels like this forum or others that can be built in the future. Now I would like to know your opinion. Welcome to www.atariopenbox.com
  21. Phil, we have made great strides in the variations of boxes and cartridges. I just finished modeling the new project, now let's resume the checklists and move on to the missing items. Remembering that I have received many contributions, I would like to thank all collaborators and one especially to you! Daniel
  22. Dave your collection is wonderful! The way you organized your shelves makes a lot of sense to me and the impressive number of rarities puts you at the top of the world's collectors! You my Sunday much sweeter! Thanks for sharing.
  23. Phil, you're right about the investment, so being able to certify the games is even better. But I always ask myself: Why and for whom? For those who inherit or buy at substantial value to keep them closed in their homes? Let me present this to you from another angle, about arriving at a moment in life and having the opportunity after 40 years to live this emotion of opening sealed games. I will do this for my pleasure, for having this right. I don't want to encourage others to do the same. But I want to have this memory in my life, please don't take this emotion away from me! So I can answer the initial question. Why and for whom? For those who inherit or buy my games will know that they made me very happy and even helped to preserve Atari's history. Hugs dear friend!
  24. Phil thanks again. I just completed another 20 boxed print records for the requested period. I found two more different brands of printing that I will be sending you soon. My intention this year is to open all my sealed games (approximately 120) so we will have many more records to include.
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