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  1. 29 minutes ago, clh333 said:

    Not to jump the thread (or whatever it had devolved into) but I'd like to add:  I picked up an SX212 recently and after cleaning it up plugged one end into the 800XL and the other end into my AT&T POTS service.  I did some research at https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/ searching for dial-up sites (returned 29 results).  Loaded SX Express, selected 1200 baud and ASCII, and manually dialed (949) 325-9040 for AMIS XE BBS which claims to be running Atari hardware.

     

    This being a sunny Wednesday, AT&T happened to be in service, I got a dial tone and I was able to log in to the Southern Amis Projects Atari Message and Information System.  Man, I haven't done that in a while.  The squawk of the modem, the anticipation as characters crawl across the screen, the downloads that fail when somebody picks up the extension phone...  What a hoot.

     

    Kids, don't try this at home!

     

    -CH-

    Thanks for Stopping by! Next time switch to Atascii when you get out of the modem pool. That will really take you back! 

     

     

     

     

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  2. Seems a challenge has been made from Russ's 14 nodes FoReM XEP 6.0 against the Basement BBS. We have an old Sk00l BBS war..

     

    file.mp4

     

     

    Direct URL if no audio - tinyurl.com/BBSwar 

    The creator of this video has some outstanding creative skill! Thanks for the Laughs.

     

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  3. 1 minute ago, rcamp48 said:

    You are telling me to waste all of my work? And it does not matter to anyone ??? The why did people other than you respond to it? 

    I am sorry but your experience is not the same as my experience. But I will let them ask if they want it.

    My work product works. Forem XE pro was restored months ago by me so I guess your experience requires years to do what I did in 5 hours. And I guess since users actually connect to my BBS(s) provides more definitive evidence of my capabilities to execute over your supposed skill. 

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  4. Russ,

     

    Please stop. Let me tell you from experience, it doesn't matter to anyone. Do it for yourself, don't publicize your work. If anyone wants Forem XE pro, they will ask. If they don't ask, its because, they don't need it, want it, or care.. Just go quietly to work on your projects.. The Professionals have this.. 

     

     

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  5. On 1/26/2022 at 10:47 AM, DarkLord said:

    Nite Lite was the first BBS software used by Atari Corp. with their BBS,

    followed by Michtron BBS software for the Atari ST, IIRC.

     

    I wonder, did they ever use any other BBS software or was that the only

    2 they ever used?

     

    Just adding the Nite Lite ST Files here.. 

    Nite Lite ST.zip

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  6. On another note, the restoration of the Atari Corporate BBS, Nite Lite has been completed. This was the most challenging (Forem XE pro was 5 hours of work) Nite lite clocks in at 3 weeks of effort to remove the BlackBox requirements which were built into the modem routines along with the device being required for all modem polling and answer. Add to this no screens or menus existed as well as no new user password/account set up and well you get the picture..

     

    Running on nitelite.ddns.net port 9000

     

    This is a real departure from the usual Atari BBS and contains some great features especially in the message bases with find and replace editing, "what" feature for reading reply source message and grouping, database improvements for stability, and low maintenance. 

     

    Available notes: "Paul Swanson's BBS with RAM disk. Paul Swanson was a programmer from the Boston, Massachusetts, USA, area. I'm not sure whether his BBS for the Atari 8-bit has been placed into the public domain or not. This BBS was the first to support a RAMdisk, which Paul Swanson called a "V:" device for "virtual disk". This BBS was written in Atari BASIC and required a joystick hardware "dongle" device. This was notable as being one of the first Atari 8-BIT BBSes that could actually go for a week without having to be rebooted. Pointers to the message base were kept in an Atari "very long string" (for which Atari BASIC is famous). The BBS would only have problems (for the most part) if this string became corrupted." - Atari FAQ

     

    And if you don't want to log into the BBS but get a view:

     

     

     

    The Southern Amis Projects, restores and preserve Atari BBS history. Rebuilding BBS programs for the Atari 8Bit  back to ready-to-use reliability and completeness of documentation, source code and sysop support. All BBS's are run active and shared on southernamis.com upon final user testing and completeness of each version for real-hardware, modem, Fujinet, and Emulators. To-date over 10 BBS's from AMIS, FoReM, ESP, AtariLink, Phonem, NightShift, Hutch BBS,NiteLite, Others have been restored under the project. Southern Amis core bbs is Atascii/Atari Only southernamis.ddns.net port 23 and AMIS XE amis86.ddns.net port 9000 for Atascii and Ascii users

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  7. Just to confirm, I’m not part of this project. My project to restore FoReM XE pro ended weeks ago with the successful restoration and deployment of the BBS. One ATR, one drive, 6 directories, simple, stable, and complete. On to the next restoration for NiteLite. Good luck with all your retro projects. 

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  8. On 11/9/2021 at 6:16 PM, rcamp48 said:

    it was a bad file, it will be up in a few minutes, this is not a working BBS just the setup disk

     

    Just so we can close this thread out... Single Disk, Altirra, FujiNet, Modem... No version 6.0 No 15 ATR's, just Forem XE pro 5.4 Running at foremxepro.ddns.net port 9001

     

     

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  9. 1 hour ago, _The Doctor__ said:

    looks like a number of people need to update their fujinets... I ask if it's updated and they say yes- with the latest... but the at? help screen may not agree... maybe the version number could be help screen or the ati command

    sooo....

    The pull from the github is the most recent firmware. The version number is available in the web admin. Maybe it would be good to know what you are trying to accomplish. If this is for a connect set up to a bbs, you will need the rlistener which may explain why your not seeing the busy bbs message. A number of the AT commands are not necessary as the 850 and R: handler are the same as Altirra. If you are looking to re-write the modem.cpp I can tell you it is definitely needed and believe the FujiNet team would agree. Anyway, the tools ATR is attached which contains RLISTEN.COM if you currently do not have the files. 

    fnc-tools.atr


  10. 21 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said:

     

     

    can we get some probing of the AT commands in the help sense for a complete list of all commands that actually work, It seems AT+ is a things and maybe the AT # $ % &  bits and pieces might be hiding in there as well... perhaps an AT&W to save config.

     

     

    The AT, beyond your initial request for AT? commands are listed in modem.h, modem.cpp provides the structure. As for XIO commands, these are standard to the handler and authentic to Atari Basic. All the information you are questioning is directly in the firmware. I have attached to the two files which can be viewed in a text editor or can be reached with Xcode or Microsoft Visual Studio, other integrated development environment to https://github.com/FujiNetWIFI/fujinet-platformio.git

     

     

    modem.cpp modem.h

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  11. 17 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said:

    I have entered the labyrinth and went looking for a complete list of FujiNet smartmodem AT commands and can't find them... where are they buried?

    If there is a built in AT? or ATHELP or similar command, can someone take screens shots of them or capture them with the terminal buffer and put them in a use-able locatable place?

     

    PDF of the AT? screen capture attached - FujiNet AT Commands

    fuji.pdf

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  12. Part of the problem with these various versions, The last released version, 5.4, saw TWO versions of AMP, one for the SIO modem interfaces, the other for the PBI interfaces. 

     

    AMP9600 is for a MIO - @JohnPolka confirm this if you are aware of the same. 

     

    MIO emulation is not available on the FujiNet - Only the 850 

     

    Also - still waiting to hear what file is missing so I can provide you with the file. Now it appears you have another corrupt file. Let us know what you need..

     


  13. 2 minutes ago, rcamp48 said:

    You guys are riight, itr is unfinished, and I should have said from the beginning that it was missing one file, if some of you could look at what I have and figure out why it is only connecting one way, I would be greatful, I will do the same , basically I will go through the basic code and find the missing file. Also I might see what the difference is between forem 2.6 and forem xe pro, forem 2.6 works.

     

    What the name of the missing file? 


  14. Hard to help when you keep saying on AA and Facebook, it's done, it's working, and releasing version after version without having a final.

     

    Just work on it and release it once you have tested and confirmed a working version. This is how we release final product and why we only release final product. 

    At one point you wrote you wanted to charge for the effort. I figured if you wanted to monetize this you had a stable version. 

     

    Anyone who wants to run a BBS - goto southernamis.com as on the website are plenty of working versions of the Atari A8 bbs's. No Charge..

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  15. 20 hours ago, 8BIT 1337 said:

    I for one was *dying* to try a BBS after I got my FujiNet this summer, but didn't know where to look or how to get it running.  So I think more support is a welcome thing.

    Really good to know! Ill post a video plus on southernamis.com all the simplified instructions plus ATR's for term programs available.. The How To Connect page gives quick connect set of instructions but we are due for a new video, etc.. Ill take this one and get it into the community. Thanks!

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  16. We are getting to the core of the thread and here is my view - Use the FujiNet to its fullest capability. Experiment with the active BBS's and see if this fits with value of time and the user experience. If it's not for you or not valuable, the feedback would be welcomed. A lot has changed in the Atari community and the BBS's have evolved with the tech. Maybe your experience with other BBS's was not useful but Atari only bbs's or Atari run BBS's have a much different culture over other platform BBS's.

     

    I further suggest the "Things to do with a FujiNet" should provide information for the Atari BBS community. Currently in review of the document new users to the device are provided with Level 29 (ascii) as the example BBS. Glad to support updating the document to enable how to connect, settings, term programs as well as choices to maximize the use of FujiNet to include the BBS listing for the Atari (Atascii) Boards.

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  17. 2 hours ago, mytek said:

    For me it was interesting for maybe an hour or two when I was connecting to various active BBS's, but quickly the novelty wore off, and then all the reasons why I stopped using my A8 to go online focused into realty once more. Personally I think instead of going back into the past with this next generation tech, instead we should be focused on something more modern now that this tech allows for bridging the gap.

     

    As to what that would be... well I for one would find being able to log into one (or all) of my existing email accounts in either POP or maybe even IMAP, and then send and receive text messages, a very useful app on my A8. This is something that is bridging old with new in a practical and useful way.

     

    Personally I see the topic in the same objective with the addition of software preservation. BBS's today are part past and new innovation bridging continuous, evolving/emerging tech which happens to be delivered by legacy computing. The foundation is the A8, or other, and examples such as using the AWS cloud as BBS connectivity to network, FujiNet, Wimodem232, the development of hardware, software, applications, and the expanding community of users, programers, who provide continuous enhancement.

     

    The generation engaging with BBS's has shifted and the growth of BBS's continues surprisingly. IPTIA (http://www.ipingthereforeiam.com) shows continuous growth in the number of boards being deployed monthly agnostic of platform. The convergence of retro and modern has a place for BBS's but not interesting for all.

     

    Appreciate the perspective as an enthusiast, I would like to understand FujiNets impact in this area as it has been mentioned over 2000 units have sold but it appears very few use the full functionality of the device. The answer may simply be to your point, for some or most, connecting to a bbs is not all that interesting. Others it's time, and a population of users who are unaware of the existence, value, or how to connect to a BBS.

     

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  18. 2 hours ago, Xebec said:

    Great topic!  I've been thinking about connecting to BBSes again lately with my 800..  I actually have two Fujis.. 

     

    I haven't "jumped right in" because I was thinking I'd go back to my Atari 850 + Wifi232 (forget exact name) device and use the 850 Express terminal which I used as a kid on the 8bit.  I know BobTerm is a little more advanced and would be interested in trying that.

     

    I see the guide and appreciate that.  I will try tonight!   I guess two questions - 1. Can I use 850 Express with Fujinet?  and 2.  Not that it super matters - but what baud rates does Fujinet support?

     

    (And Bonus question - are there any 80 column BBS softwares working on VBXE yet?  have been looking for excuses to buy one) 

    You can use any terminal program to connect with FujiNet or the Wimodem. Set up as you did back in the day, Atascii, 2400,4800 baud and use the ATDT command but instead of a phone number, use the address and port: southernamis.ddns.net:23 from there, everything is as it was when you last used your modem to dial out..

     

    Baud Rates for FujiNet - 300-4800 does goto 9600 but with some character loss.

    80 Column - MouseNet is an A8 80 Column BBS - You can find the full BBS listings at http://sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php

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