Clancy Wiggum

"What do you like about the Atari Jaguar?" 1 - It's weird and misunderstood. 2 - It has a cool active community around it today. 3 - It was never given a proper chance - the likes of Skyhammer show what it can really do. 4 - It's not a better console than those that came out at the time, but it is more interesting.

I asked a while ago about where I can get these ports on cart, and was kindly sent this link. I can't get access to it now though - it's saying "Sorry, we couldn't find that!" and "You do not have permission to view this topic". Assistance appreciated. Thanks.

I have yet to play Brutal Sports Football on the Jag, but had it for the Amiga CD32 and really liked it. Not quite Speedball II on grass, but reminiscent enough of it to be enjoyable.

Any chance of a port of Nitro? First game I played on the ST. Love it.

Agreed. Probably for the best

Removed

Removed.

Removed.

Just to clarify - I mean flat in terms of their profile view. Yes they are rounded when you look at them in the direction that you would when holding them, which is a step up from the NES and Master System rectangular ones, but turn them side on, and they are pretty much flat.

Chipping into this oldish topic... I don't know if I'd class Checkered Flag as a bad game for the simple reason that the controls are too broken for me to consider it a real game. It falls into another category for me: 'Incomplete' or 'shouldn't have been released'. I'll have to play the system a bit more to discover what I could classify as 'the worst non-broken cartridge game'. At this stage, I reckon Kasumi Ninja would be up there though.

Posted this comment in another thread. Included it below as it seemed relevant here too. I've long had a fascination with the Jaguar, but only recently played one and got into collecting for it. Part of that fascination stems from when I saw a picture of the controller back in '94 or so and thought 'what the hell is that!?'. Having played both the black and grey ones, yes there are definite differences, as you say Kill_Bill. In fact I was really struck by how much of a difference there was. The Jaguar has it's faults, and the controller is often cited as a prime example, but, like many others, I was pleasantly surprised when I first held it. It was pretty comfortable. For it's time too, the '3D' moulding was a definite step up from the mostly flat SNES, Mega Drive, 3DO controllers too. I also think the flak for C B A ordering of the buttons is unfair: Nintendo had been doing it B then A for years and, to my knowledge, hadn't been criticised as much as Atari were for doing the same thing with the Jaguar controller. I also don't get the criticism regarding it being huge and chunky. It's actually quite light and is not dissimilar to other controllers both before and since other than they tend to have a gap between the two 'prongs' you put your fingers round, while the Jaguar uses that for the number pad. Even though I was pleasantly surprised with the how the controller felt to hold, I have to say that the D-pad and the buttons were sources of disappointment. The D-pad was too small, too shallow, wasn't 'clicky' enough to really give feedback on how you'd moved it and the same criticism could be made for the C B A buttons. However, having played both the black and grey button versions I was taken aback with how different they feel with regard to these points. I can't remember off the top of my head which one was better (the black button one I think) but it made such a difference to the feel of playing the system as it basically resolved those issues for me.

Meant to post a comment here a while back... I've long had a fascination with the Jaguar, but only recently played one and got into collecting for it. Part of that fascination stems from when I saw a picture of the controller back in '94 or so and thought 'what the hell is that!?'. Having played both the black and grey ones, yes there are definite differences, as you say Kill_Bill. In fact I was really struck by how much of a difference there was. The Jaguar has it's faults, and the controller is often cited as a prime example, but, like many others, I was pleasantly surprised when I first held it. It was pretty comfortable. For it's time too, the '3D' moulding was a definite step up from the mostly flat SNES, Mega Drive, 3DO controllers too. I also think the flak for C B A ordering of the buttons is unfair: Nintendo had been doing it B then A for years and, to my knowledge, hadn't been criticised as much as Atari were for doing the same thing with the Jaguar controller. I also don't get the criticism regarding it being huge and chunky. It's actually quite light and is not dissimilar to other controllers both before and since other than they tend to have a gap between the two 'prongs' you put your fingers round, while the Jaguar uses that for the number pad. Even though I was pleasantly surprised with the how the controller felt to hold, I have to say that the D-pad and the buttons were sources of disappointment. The D-pad was too small, too shallow, wasn't 'clicky' enough to really give feedback on how you'd moved it and the same criticism could be made for the C B A buttons. However, having played both the black and grey button versions I was taken aback with how different they feel with regard to these points. I can't remember off the top of my head which one was better (the black button one I think) but it made such a difference to the feel of playing the system as it basically resolved those issues for me.

Depends on price, for me. If it's at the right price and comes in your standard Jaguar cartridge game box, I'd give it serious thought.

Where can I buy the actual games? Thanks.

As far as I know As far as I know it's taking the money without delivery. I think something else happened with Gumtree too, as they e-mailed me regarding him, but they can't say because of the Data Protection Act.

To warn others I thought I'd post the details of a UK scammer looking to get money out of Jaguar / retro games collectors. A guy calling himself John Jones posted several ads on Gumtree in December 2016, at least one of which was an Atari Jaguar games bundle on sale for £250. Gumtree messaged me unprompted about "suspicious activity" associated with his account. He has good contact initially and sounds friendly, but doesn't post the items you pay for. He uses a mobile phone number ending in 294, his bank account number ends in 264 and he claims to be from the Forest Town / Mansfield area of Nottinghamshire, England. The same mobile phone number also appeared on an advert for a PC sound card in February 2016 under the name Dave. Below is a picture of the bundle he said he was selling. You'll see that the Flashback box has a yellow price sticker on the front it; the Alien vs Predator box has a tear to the front at the top, left corner and has a security tag partially over the barcode on the back; while the back of the Raiden box also has one of these. If you could keep an eye out for these features on Ebay listings or ads elsewhere that would be great. Also below is the text of the ad, in case he tries it again. ---------------------------- Boxed Atari Jaguar console, pad & extra boxed controller & 8 games. All the contents are in excellent condition. Games: Wolfenstein 3D (sealed) Raiden Cannon Fodder (sealed) Dino Dudes Syndicate Aliens Vs Predator Brutal Sports Football Flashback The console itself is PAL, but the games are a mixture of PAL and NTSC. As the console is region free it can play any of the games. All working. ------------------------------------

Yep. If people are willing to pay whatever price, that price is fair. No-one is putting a gun to the head of buyers and saying "you must pay this price". The market will tell sellers if they are selling things for an unfair price - people won't buy it.