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1 minute ago, CZroe said:

It could mean that they want to sell more of the expensive one first if they can.
 

I doubt that...just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it makes them more money.

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2 minutes ago, narshe said:

The petition does state

 

 

So that could mean a new one they're already working on I guess.

Well they said one final Nt Mini run so would have to assume that's exactly what they'd do. If they were to release a new product then they wouldn't limit it, nor would they bother with another Nt Mini release. If they did another Nt Mini run, then turned around and released an NES variant similar to the Super Nt and Mega Sg, people would be bitching.

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4 minutes ago, hyrulebr said:

From petition page: 

 

30 DE JAN DE 2020 — 

We got their attention! 

Analogue has responded to our petition and has stated that they will do one final run of the Nt mini if we get 1,000 signatures!

 

If you want to see the response: go to Facebook and visit Analogue’s page, find their posting from January 20 at 9am (video of Kirby’s Pinball Land) and read the comments, you will see me posting the petition AND Analogue responding!

 

SHARE THIS PETITION AND LET’S MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Interestingly, this would seem to confirm there is no upcoming Analogue 8, or at least it's not an NES. I doubt they'd bother with another Nt Mini run if so.

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3 minutes ago, CZroe said:

48 minutes ago, narshe said:

Analogue said they'll do another run of the NT Mini if 1,000 people sign the petition.
 
https://www.change.org/p/christopher-taber-build-another-run-of-the-analogue-nt-mini-game-console?recruiter=649166969&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=b85aee70-bd4c-11e6-91f9-17a73452787a

If they said that then it should be news. Where did they say that?

At the bottom of the petition there is an update that has a quote from Analogue saying they'd do it. I don't know if anyone can just post there and it's trolling or what. Seems sketchy.

 

Edit: dunno if that is a screenshot of a DM or something they author had with Analogue? Either way, kinda weird....If they do it though, I'd like to see some more colors.

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4 hours ago, CZroe said:

4 hours ago, jamon1567 said:

Gonna have to assume he means it won't work through the Krikzz cart on the Mega Sg.

Then what did it "fix?"

Sorry, misread that and thought it was a Mega Sg update.

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14 hours ago, phoenixdownita said:

Ahem:

MEGAOS-V3.13 16.01.2020
1. SVP compatibility fix for Mega-SG (required console firmware v4.7)

Gonna have to assume he means it won't work through the Krikzz cart on the Mega Sg.

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Regarding that $3300 Nt Mini auction, I see it was relisted. I guess either some drunken reveler came to their senses, or that person has multiple units.

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2 hours ago, NE146 said:

Analogue's sometimes hard to figure out that way. 

On that note, someone bought an Nt Mini last night on eBay for $3300....let that sink in....smdh

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2 hours ago, dj_convoy said:

You dared to get paid for your years of hard work, you monster!

That and jealousy I'd presume. 

14 minutes ago, Drunk_Caterpillar said:

Thanks for chiming in Kevin; I’m sorry you have to suffer through that kind of needless hostility. If it’s any consolation, my friends and I have been having a really good time with the Super Nt and Mega Sg over the holidays and I’m super grateful that you put in the work you did. Thanks man. 

I would also like to second this. While the haters are always going to be the loudest, there are still plenty of people out here enjoying your work and anxiously awaiting whatever lies in the future. Thanks for all you do (and have done), and happy New Year!

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Which is why I was using 720p, but when using scanlines I'm getting halo's around images and the lines are not right either. It's kinda hard to explain, but it's immediately obvious. It does not do this without them or using them on 1080p.

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What about em scanlines? I don't recall what others here were saying the issue was, but I fired mine up the other day for the first time in a while and noticed the scanlines were all messed up in 720p. Cant remember if I had played it since I updated the last firmware or just updated it and set it aside....

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18 minutes ago, Kaide said:

I think it is a mix of that, but also Taber selling their products as "preservation" because of the use of FPGAs. And that sort of thing rubs me the wrong way, TBH. Preservation is about evoking the idea of something like preserving Yosemite so that multiple generations can enjoy that special piece of nature. i.e. Putting something into the public trust. In software engineering, the rough equivalent is OSS. Analogue is clearly not doing that. And folks working in OSS that do see their work as preservation and putting their work in the public trust see that as a violation.

 

I still buy because the product is good, but I think the manner its being advertised does it a disservice. 

That's a good point. Perhaps in the future they'll release their code. That would be the best of both worlds. And btw, I don't think Taber is perfect either. He's said some cringy things (just recently about the cart adapters FFS) that I don't care for, but so to do I not think he's some Snidely Whiplash using Kevtris work to take advantage of people.

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11 minutes ago, dj_convoy said:

Just what we need; drama from a new source. I certainly don't mean you cats discussing it; I just mean needless drama about porting cores over. Analogue isn't going to hold a gun to anybody's head, and it's up to the authors of the cores or others who understand them if they get ported or not.

 

This should be good, fun news, not more typical "evil corporations arrrggghh" stuff.

Wasn't trying to stir anything up, just disappointed with some of the responses I've seen. Hopefully as more information is available things will change, if not, the product offers more than enough as is.

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Basically, I think it boils down to certain folk looking at a guy like Taber and thinking "you didn't build that". And they're right in a sense, these products would not be possible if not for Kevtris work, but at the same time, running a business isn't exactly some kind of mindless work. If it were, everyone would do it.

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13 minutes ago, Kaide said:

It came up in that Twitter thread too. But in a more understandable sense: Analogue is being a bit protectionist if you can bring your OSS to them, but they aren't bringing their work to OSS. I find that sentiment understandable at least. It's also a bit hard to truly preserve this stuff going forward if the preservation effort is a closed product. But I've never been in the "OSS or else" camp either. I'm not against what Analogue is doing here, but I can see why folks are wary of Analogue and Taber's particular sales pitch.

 

But yeah, it is a little weird when a lot of their work is viable for hobbyists because of Intel effectively dumping cheap dev hardware on the market. They aren't exactly free from the whims of corporations either.

I can respect that stance, but I don't think it was arrived at from any sort of unbiased position. It seems like they're outright hostile to some "evil" corporation "stealing" and profiting off their work and have formed their opinion from the get go. I mean it was, what, a couple hours maybe after news had dropped and that was the reaction? Nobody really knew anything then, and there are still a lot of unanswered questions now.

 

Regardless, I won't be losing sleep over whether or not the cores are ported. It would be nice if they were, but if not, they have their reasons and thats fine by me.

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4 minutes ago, Kosmic Stardust said:

Seriously?

 

Everyone is evil... ?

That was basically what I saw one of them was saying (I think it was Rysha....I'm not really up on the scene) said on Discord the other day. Which is funny to me because the hardware that that project runs on is manufactured and subsidized by some doubleplusungood corporation, who no doubt does it for the nefarious means of making a profit. And I seem to recall seeing similar sentiments regarding Kevtris and Analogue work in the past as well.

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Analogue is an evil corporation bro....?

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5 hours ago, Atariboy said:

They're not teasing a product that's a full year away from announcement. Obviously they have some further exciting news to be unveiled in the weeks ahead. 

Where did you find that quote btw? I read a handful of articles the day of and never saw it myself.

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7 minutes ago, Kaide said:

 

So would I, but the lack of stock of the NT Mini for ~2 years, despite demand says they aren’t acting like a publicly traded company which has a responsibility to make money for the owners/shareholders. And it’s not as if companies haven’t made products that only get a single production run.

I’m mostly just saying that Analogue’s wording isn’t clear which is the intended meaning. And I’m not going to speculate, knowing that they have communication issues with their customers.

 

Yes, their history in this regard concerns me. However, we're a long ways past the Nt Mini, and that presented it's own challenges anyway.....like being milled out a chunk of aluminum. And honestly, I'm not even sure the dock will drop with the initial run anyway, and if it doesn't, then it doesn't much matter to me. For now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they're reading this, there are gonna be a lotta pissed of people like myself (who has purchased all of the products since the Mini) if we miss out on a limited run because scalpers buy up all their stock. Just sayin'

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3 minutes ago, Intense.Mark said:

GBA compatibility is actually listed. There are trigger buttons at the back but the form factor will give me cramps.

Yea, I meant to say there is NOW a GBA core...I edited it.

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7 minutes ago, Jagasian said:

If implemented right, USB can be implemented in a way that it introduces under 1 millisecond of lag.  So not exactly zero lag, but still great.  Even the lowest lag HDTVs add 10 milliseconds of lag, which is a big reason why people like CRTs for classic gaming.

I just had a thought....8Bitdo recently released the 2.4G Sega Mini set that uses USB. I'd like to see a USB receiver and a line of 2.4G controllers on top of the Genesis ones. Like an SNES controller and a 2.4G receiver would be nice ?

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4 minutes ago, Kaide said:

 

The display looks to be a low-quantity part (615 ppi LCDs in this aspect ratio aren’t exactly common), and it’s going to eat a number of FPGAs. I’m curious what FPGA it uses, since they can be small or large. Knowing which one would tell us what cores are even possible to port to the second FPGA.

It’s also hard to say if “limited” in this case means “at launch” (Super NT) or “ever” (NT Mini). But if they aren’t doing pre-orders, they’ll get yelled at if it’s limited at launch if they warn us or not. I’d rather they be forward about launch availability, IMO.

Honestly, if it is possible to port something like the MISTer Neo Geo core to this thing, I’ll be super, super happy. Even then, being able to take some stuff on the go like NES/Master System would be a killer feature to enable with the second FPGA. Even if you have to use ROMs for it.



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I would imagine it'll only be limited at launch (I mean, they want to make money right?), but the question then is how long until they restock. Time will tell I suppose.

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6 minutes ago, Intense.Mark said:

The vertical form factor is disappointing. Most GBA gamers prefer the landscape form factor. The Revo K101 got famous because of the better screen and horizontal form factor. 

It's kinda interesting because they seem to be selling it as more of a traditional Game Boy. Like playing Game Boy games is the big thing. And it is I guess, but the biggest deal of all (at least to me) is that there is now a GBA core. I understand why they did it being that Game Boy is the OG, but if you did plan on using this to play on the go, as mentioned up thread, those shoulder buttons may be an issue for GBA games. Personally, I'll be using it (assuming I can get one when they release) on my TV and it won't matter either way, but I could see this design as being a let down if I was more interested in playing GBA on the go.

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Just now, CZroe said:

6 minutes ago, jamon1567 said:

There are no preorders, that's the problem. I don't really feel like getting screwed on purchasing one because some assholes scoop them all up to scalp.

This is just the announcement/reveal. I still expect a preorder.

Their site says to sign up to be alerted to when it's available (not available for pre-order) and that there will be limited quantities. I'm just going by what they say. 

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3 minutes ago, Jagasian said:

Love the Analogue portable.  A few things I’d like to see:

1. Turbo Express cart support
2. port of Mister cores to the auxiliary FPGA (especially the Neo Geo core)
3. wired controller ports for eliminating the lag introduced by wireless controllers
4. DAC support, for eliminating lag

There is DAC support, and there is support for wired controllers (via dock) over USB. Not sure what if any lag USB introduces though....