[The Official Sega Saturn Thread!]

I got my Japanese Saturn from my mother last Christmas and it's already my favorite 90s system. My favorite game out of my (small) collection is Fighting Vipers (Japanese version of course. Who doesn't want to play as Pepsiman?) although X-men Vs. Street Fighter and SotN will probably be my next purchases.

[Funny/Bad/Misleading Video Game Box Art Thread]

12 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said:

Here's a misleading one... the back of Big Rigs is one huge lie

 

Thank you for reminding me of this awful awesome game! I'm gonna go get it off of myabondonware.

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

I just call all of my systems and games; "games", no matter what era they're from. I think this thread is the most I've used the term "retro".

[Funny/Bad/Misleading Video Game Box Art Thread]

Someone tell me with a straight face why this box art was acceptable. 

 

Here's the Japanese box art, it looks normal, nothing wrong here:

 

 

Then here's the one the US got, I have no words, this is what an unused texture deep in the game's code looks like, not the box art that advertises the game:

[Funny/Bad/Misleading Video Game Box Art Thread]

1 hour ago, stupus said:

I don't know where this is from, but I'm blaming Europe.

[Funny/Bad/Misleading Video Game Box Art Thread]

I'll just kick this off with this image: 

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

11 minutes ago, Steven Pendleton said:

This actually brings up another question, as well. What is "support"? If you go to Nintendo USA's website, they still have support pages for all of their systems that got a US release. Does that count?

 

https://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/other/index.jsp

 

I have a feeling that it doesn't since they do not actually service these systems, but I think it might be interesting to discuss this aspect, as well, since they do offer troubleshooting assistance to a limited extent.

Yes and no, I mean, they technically do still "support" those systems, but the info they give you probably isn't any better (or worse) than what you can find by doing a quick google search. A system isn't retro if you can still get it officially repaired (which in Nintendo's case, the DS is the oldest system they'll repair).

 

 

Off-topic, but next time anyone has a Virtual Boy problem, call Nintendo and see what advice they give you.

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

2 hours ago, BassGuitari said:

15 years or more since original release. Simple as that.

 

Y'all are seriously overthinking this. ?

But what if the system is still supported and has games being officially released? Take the 360 for example, it's 15 years old, but it's still supported by Microsoft (as of 5/27/20), is that retro?

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

32 minutes ago, XtraSmiley said:

Well by your own definition wouldn't the Dreamcast not be retro because a new game is about to come out for it (Xenocrisis). Unless by official, you mean something like the original console creators have approved it?

Yes, it has to be officially licensed by the console creator (in this case, sega). Bonus points if it gets a retail release.

 

Although that brings up another question, if the original company licenses homebrew for a retro console, would that system be no longer retro? Can systems stop being retro?

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

1 hour ago, Magmavision2000 said:

Here's my criteria for a retro console:

 

1. It cannot have any official new games being released for it (duh!)

 

2. The system has to be unsupported for at least 10 years

 

3. If it has online capabilities, it must be no longer supported by the official company

 

4. It has to have an emulator

 

 

By these criteria, the PS2, Xbox, GameCube,  Dreamcast, and GBA era are the most recent retro consoles and the next generation will be completely retro in 2029-2030 (?). Of course, this is subject to change (I've heard that the PS3's PSN is the same as the PS4's PSN, so it may never go offline).

I just found a (slight) flaw in my list, I said the PS2 is retro, even though it's technically not by my criteria (the last PS2 game came out in 2013, therefore it will be retro in 2023).

[What makes a system "Retro" - open discussion]

Here's my criteria for a retro console:

 

1. It cannot have any official new games being released for it (duh!)

 

2. The system has to be unsupported for at least 10 years

 

3. If it has online capabilities, it must be no longer supported by the official company

 

4. It has to have an emulator

 

 

By these criteria, the PS2, Xbox, GameCube,  Dreamcast, and GBA era are the most recent retro consoles and the next generation will be completely retro in 2029-2030 (?). Of course, this is subject to change (I've heard that the PS3's PSN is the same as the PS4's PSN, so it may never go offline).

[Season 10 ~ Week 3 ~ Midway Arcade Part 3]

Finally got around to playing the 2600 and got 46,600 points! It's not much, but I think I can make up a strategy for this one.

[More NES, SNES, FC, And SFC Coming to Switch Next Week]

Here's my review.

 

Rygar was pretty fun but doesn't seem like a game I would play. 7/10

 

Operation Logic Bomb is surprisingly good. It's a top-down shooter, similar to the early Grand Theft Auto games, but you're in the 20XXs. 8/10

 

I wasn't familiar with Wild Guns until I saw the gameplay, its like Blood Bros, but with bigger sprites. 7/10

 

Panel De Pon (Tetris Attack) is good, you have to match colors on a horizontal plane (why not both horizontal and vertical?). It's kind of like actual Tetris, it's boring at first but gets more and more fun the longer you play it. This and Operation Logic Bomb are probably the only ones I'll play again. 9/10

 

Verdict: Not as bad as I expected, but definitely could've been better.

 

Also, Super Punchout on the SFC app doesn't have any artwork, it's just the title screen for the thumbnail.

[More NES, SNES, FC, And SFC Coming to Switch Next Week]

6 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

Wild Guns is awesome, what's wrong with you, guys??

It may be good, but is it Donkey Kong Country good? 

[Season 10 ~ Week 2 ~ Midway Arcade Part 2]

Looks like I'm gonna spectate this round (nothing is stopping me from using an emulator, I just like using real hardware).

[More NES, SNES, FC, And SFC Coming to Switch Next Week]

11 minutes ago, DragonGrafx-16 said:

Journey to Sillius is a great game with kickass music! Why wasn't it added to the library outside Japan? 

 

I own the real game on NES and don't have a Switch so it doesn't really matter to me, but still...

It is, for some reason the Japanese equivalents have been playing catch up for the past few updates.

[More NES, SNES, FC, And SFC Coming to Switch Next Week]

I https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/article/76c24c49-2e58-4f00-8ed3-a8136e278e30

https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/2020/more-than-80-nes-and-super-nes-games-are-now-available-with-nintendo-switch-online/

 

If you don't want to read the articles, here are the games:

 

Both SNES and SFC: Panel De Pon (Tetris Attack)

 

SNES exclusive: Wild Guns and Operation Logic Bomb

 

SFC catch up: Super Punch-out

 

Both NES and FC: Rygar

 

FC catch up: Rough World (Journey to Sillius)

 

It's clear what they're doing now, they're putting one recognizable game on the app, then they're unloading a bunch of forgettable, possibly garbage games so they can inflate their game count. The fact games like DKC and Pinball get left out is saddening.

 

I'm not mad, I'm just very disappointed.

 

 

[Wanted: Interesting Auctions]

On 5/12/2020 at 8:12 PM, haunted_ipa_ said:

here's an incredible offer

 

Double post, please delete.

[Wanted: Interesting Auctions]

On 5/12/2020 at 8:12 PM, haunted_ipa_ said:

here's an incredible offer

 

These listings always piss me off since it makes other people think they have holy grails, even though they have dirt cheap commons. Hopefully, someone told the person about the difference between Atlantis and Atlantis 2 and he lowered the price.

[FS: Untested PS1+ Genesis, DS, And C64 Games]

One last bump before this gets put on eBay.

[What's Your Favorite Grand Theft Auto Game?]

For me, it's a toss-up between GTA 2, Vice City, and The Ballad of Gay Tony. Those three, in my opinion, mix story progression and accessibility the best.

[There's a WOF2 for game.com on eBay]

17 hours ago, atari2600land said:

People, this is probably the only console left not to have ANY homebrew ANYTHING on it.

I don't think there's any Cassettevision Homebrew, what about Telstar Arcade? It would be interesting to see some homebrew on the Game.com though.

[Wanted: Interesting Auctions]

On 4/8/2020 at 2:07 PM, cvga said:

I'm not a fan of this tactic. Combining an obvious repro with a bunch of fairly common carts.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-2600-Game-Lot-13-cartridges-w-rare-title-Color-Bar-Generator-repro/184244829607?hash=item2ae5d8fda7:g:zJgAAOSw46Bd3FLJ

 

At least they acknowledge that the rare cart might be a repro (and they obviously are) but it's still shady. They do this in multiple auctions.

I might have found another listing doing the same thing, this time with Texas Chainsaw Massacre: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184281795910

[How Good Is My PC?]

20 minutes ago, DragonGrafx-16 said:

Uh... does your PC not have any expansion slots? There's no reason to still be using intergraded graphics on a desktop...

It does, but I'm on a "strict" gaming budget, and buying a GPU isn't really on my main priorities list. I'm definitely going to get one someday though.

[FS: Untested PS1+ Genesis, DS, And C64 Games]

C'mon! You know you want to buy this!