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So it's only a partially completed thing anyway? Alright. Its a decent start though if it can run some things so maybe one day.

Didn't someone get an FPGA implementation of a Jag running? I'm sure I saw it on youtube running Cybermorph though I don't know if it was legitimate or not or anything about it really.

Pretty much every CD player I have encountered that is not a PC or a 7th gen and forward video games console, apart from one or two recent car CD players, only does normal CD-DA and has no support for MP3, at least not that I know of (I don't have many mp3 CDs to try but I would expect a lot of these players to advertise it in big letters if they had such a feature). It's been a little while but the same person that did MP3 rips years ago (well I suppose the only one with the CD) did FLAC rips too. I think I signed up to some Final Fantasy forum years ago just because I had to in order to downloads the flacs. I think I had trouble finding them in the first place. I was trying to find them today but couldn't and ended up getting the ones I downloaded in maybe 2017 or thereabouts off of another PC. I think I found where I originally got them from from a page on this ffshrine forum though it links to a dead file sharing site. Actually that can't be where I got them from, as that used a separate file sharing site so wouldn't need you to sign up to the forum. So that might still work but you have to have an account on the forum and apparently it takes a while to find. I actually came to this forum page because I noticed it had a CD iso but it does seem a bit small as the flacs I have here run 61 mins in total. MP3 is good but if you are burning an uncompressed CD then there is no point in using a lossy source if lossless is available is there. You reduce quality if only slightly for no space savings. This is where I assume I got them from: https://www.ralfcasino.com/forums-ffshrine/archive/t-199037.html But that lets you in without being a member. Maybe I'll just post them here as no one had a problem with Paul Westphal doing it. The Zip barely compresses it if not at all but it seems to be the only way to have the folder as one download (I couldn't figure out how to cancel the upload of each individual file so had to wait for them to upload and then delete them). Archive-bed8_defender_2000_cd_flac.zip

I don't understand how you can "move" random conversations that spring up but jokes aside that thread sounds a good idea.

Yeah I think my mistake is that I am used to thinking about the Jag doing 3D games but really the 68K it has is probably quite substantial for 2D stuff. My understanding (not programmer) was that each game has to boot with the 68K but after that any of the 3 CPUs can control any component. Like I think even the DSP can command the blitter and the OP if you want it to. If you want everything to be compartmentalised if that is the right term you do game logic with the 68K, sound only on DSP, and geometry stuff for 3D games on the GPU. The reason why using the 68K is meant to slow things down is because it can only run from main RAM (can it run direct from cart without still blocking others from main RAM?) so nothing else can access it while it is working. The GPU and DSP have their own caches that they run code from (and can only run code from as well though that's something else(. I think these are good points. Well if you do the same job on the GPU instead of the 68K then the 68K still has to use the bus for less cycles. The other system resources that need to use the bus just get more cycles which is what you need for more complex stuff. Yeah I suppose the average game doesn't need to worry about it. I just got too used to thinking about Jag Vs PS and 3DO doing 3D games and thought everything had to be ultra efficient. I think I was also thinking that Jaguar APIs were something that were more likely to be produced to help people along with 3D games as that is what is the most difficult with the Jag. Apparently a lot of those low FPS jag games like Checkered Flag, Cybermorph etc all do geometry stuff on the 68K. TBH it is sort of amazing they get the performance they do.

I think they were actually talking about the new "VCS" rather than the 2600 as they were talking about having games all stored on one machine and they said it was new. But yes, it is annoying when people complain about something because there is no point in it - you'd think that those kind of people wouldn't be into obsolete technology. I have found myself in this kind of argument a few times, on both different sides for some reason. Sometimes I get annoyed when people act like its the best thing in the world, but I think that is just jealously inside me that I struggle to control, and also that I see some people as hypocrites because inside my head I imagine some of those people as if they would have been critics before whatever it is existed who act like they were with it all along afterwards. I think I've been torn apart a few times in different places for asking questions that were kind of programming related, and I saw once Agradeneu himself was torn apart by programmers for only being an artist and apparently not understanding the demoscene as they put it or something similar to that.

Games collecting will get significantly bigger? That's a depressing thought. You make out like its not big now? I was hoping that the "Nostalgia window" was a thing that comes and then passes. I looked at 2600 stuff and was actually impressed that prices at least for boxed consoles were not stratospheric; I assume they must have gone down recently or just stayed the same for the last 10 years. Mega Drive stuff isn't that cheap but I suppose compared to everything else it is. For some reason I have boguht loose games for it in the past. Also, if you look on ebay, somehow loose PS2 games are a thing that happens somehow.

I did but I don't remember thinking they were much different to before. I thought that with N64 too but apparently they have gone up. Too expensive before, but now everyone is acting like they have only just got like that and then I get worried. Though now with Jag stuff it seems all of it is boxed. What i want to know is why they are going up. I can't see that there is more interest than before or that they have got any rarer. Same with 3DO.

Ok. This is the first time I have looked at this and I didn't get it. Yes that is very true. I didn't know that. I thought it was only ports of ST and Amiga stuff that used it. That sounds like a cliche motivational speech from a film. But in this case they are both the same thing.

Jag stuff is STILL going up? I thought they were too expensive 5 years ago.

What do you mean "don't drink the cool-ade"? I thought everything that did anything didn't use 68K? Just seeing whatever has been made recently looks like doesn't tell you anything.

It's good to hear that!

I would have thought anything modern would not use 68K at all but compile for Tom or Jerry instead? Is there really enough free bus time in Jag programs for using the 68K gto work well? I suppose APIs like these are a tradeoff between ease and efficiency of use and maximum performacne and that is the way that it has always been.

Is that not CD emulation? Or does it support much higher bandwidth?

Why? I wouldn't even throw a CD tbh. At least not a pressed one.

Well Phillips is dutch after all.

As an actual 16 year old, I can confirm that that is not an exaggeration.

HI everyone. Thanks for replying. SOrry I didn't get back sooner. I hadn't checked for a while. I was having a day where I was acting unreasonable. Getting worked up over stupid little things. I sound really shallow talking about value and everything, but what I mean is that I seemed to have remembered looking for them and thinking they were expensive before, and then when I saw it I thought I was getting a really good deal (which is not often the case when buying from CeX). Recently compared to ebay I have found that prices weren't that bad (usually they range from average to unreasonable (seeing a £65 PS2 made my day a month ago)) but everything that seems to be at reasonable price will usually have one little thing wrong with it, but I suppsoe that is the same as looking on ebay. Thanks. I will remember that. Thanks. This was 12GBP (16USD apparently). Yeah gluing the cartridge is probably what I am going to now. I used to only care that things worked but at some point i started getting all precious over small things and need to stop really. Thanks for the thought. I don't know if you are in the same country as me though (probably not judging by "Genesis"), so me buying it wouldn't be that practical though someone more local to you might need parts I suppose, and I am always hopeful that things can be fixed and continue to work rather than be used for parts though that may not be possible. Pitched it as in sold it? I imagine the person buying would have used it for parts? I often wonder if things I have will be wanted by anyone. A lot of the time you think "surely not" but usually there will be someone who wants one and cannot find it. And of course sometimes that doesn't just mean something gets given away cheap, it means that it just gets thwon away, which I suppose is the positive side to things getting expensive and people knowing that it is valuable - preservation.

Seeing that reminds me of the MS-DOS/windows elf bowling game where they moon at you when you miss.

Thanks for this even though I'm not using cc65. I realised the other day that I don't even know how to use a compiler (no clue how you use lyxass). It really does help to have experience. Needless to say I won't be having anything at all done in 2 weeks. This helped shove it in my face that makefiles probably aren't going to kill me though.

But Arkanoid *is* just breakout deluxe as far as I can tell. it adds stuff but it doesn't even change the core rule like columns does. I would imagine none of these games would have any use for an eeprom anyway (actually high scores I suppose), but I suppose it should still be in concrete in the rules anyway.

I disappear for a week and now using the word "they" in a normal fashion is offensive and the christmas compo is actually a demoparty. Nice. People here seem to get offended very easily. If you want to see someone REALLY ignore (and actually ignore probably by choice rather than passively not knowing) the details, there is plenty of that in youtube comments sections. There is this one sega fanatic called Tornado1994 that comes to mind if you can find some of his/her posts. Seeing that like that reminds me of the ZX spectrum joystick interface I have (my dad must have bought it separately but thinks it came with when it shouldn't have), which I don't like that much, but it plugs in the back like all interfaces and sticks up like that with the port facing you so any joystick or gamepad has the wire coming across the keyboard. I think it is called the RAM (that's the brand name, because when running a computer accessory company you have to name it after whatever irrelevant technical word you hear the most. it doesn't add extra RAM) joystick interface or somethng like that. But it sticks up on exactly the same side and everything. Sorry for the absolutely awful image quality.

Ah yes, now you put it that way it makes perfect sense. Oh hahaha! "Modern" French cars at least I suppose. Yes that makes sense also. Thanks. I have always wondered why there is no RPi demoscene. Of course demos are less popular for modern platforms but there are still demos for mdoern PCs aren't there? Mostly stuff like what elaborate stuff you can do in 4KB of code. RPi is a standardised platform, much less capable than a bang up to date high end PC even if it is still in 6th gen VGC territory, but it can still output video at 1080P60, much higher than what it would usually be comfortable rendering at, so there is still room for stuff that can impress people (someone showed me a video of some spiderman game on PS5 the other day and I couldn't tell that from what a PS4 game would look like, or one for PS3 either, though maybe less jaggies? So I don't really know what you could do for them that could wow anyone more than the normal software without being the kind of out there thinker that should be researching quantum physics or designing 4D shapes or something instead. I am blown back by Shin'en games on the Wii U though). And of course its cheap and plentiful (modern day ZX spectrum, even without the built in keyboard, despite having not transformed into a games console), and apparently it has barely any BIOS and just runs any code straight off the SD card, just like a cartridge based VGC even if the SD card isn't actually in conventional address space. There are a few demos, but not many at all. One of the like i think, two that exist, that is called Uranus dreams or something, comes as some LNX file (short for linux?) that I have no clue what to do with, Raspbian doesn't run it, but recognises the filename extension to be used for Atari Lynx ROMs funnily enough. The x86 Linux versions use the same kind of file too. And it doesn't specify that they are for any specific distros. I would have liked the idea of this 400 a few months ago, when I still thought that a modern PC cased in a keyboard was a good idea (now I still think it is a cool idea, but not a good one), but since then I came to terms with the fact that it is pointless, and that it makes more sense for everything to be modular.

Hahaha. So its like (at least as far as outsiders are concerned) people into fashion? I'm not sure why I think that to be honest. The impression I get from people my age (born 2003, 2004) is that it is expected that everyone plays video games, so I would have thought that it would mean less to newer generations as it is more commonplace. Reminds me of the Nintendo Eshop review thing.

Yeah, I understand they are simpler so everyone themselves would prefer to stick to that, but not sure why that would be a competition preference if you know what I mean (I feel like I can't speak english properly anymore even though it's my first language). I don't quite get the France joke, I'm sorry to be awkward. Yeah before signing up I felt like it would be something that I would probably never use ever again. But it's too late for me now, I've registered and done nothing at all, haha.