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At THIS point? Did we not hit that point a very long time ago?
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It was a hit.
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At this point... is there a meaningful difference between the VCS never being released, and the anemic trickle* of units we've actually seen? *Yes, I'm well aware that "Anemic Trickle" would be a great name for a band.
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Atari Hotels: roach motels or the bomb-diggity? YOU decide!
godslabrat replied to x=usr(1536)'s topic in Atari General
Same. For me (someone who actually is part of the demographic they're targeting) l'Atari stuff is no longer an "is it worth it to me?" Proposition. Now I legit DO NOT want to take any actions that will send money in their direction. Even though the Atari collections are a pittance on the Nintendo eShop, I'll settle for old PlayStation discs. I don't need Atari stickers or shirts, because I don't want someone mistaking me for a person who'll follow three Frenchmen into the poorhouse. Atari as it is now is blacklisted for me. -
I think, in terms of gaming, "Xbox" and "Microsoft" are distinct brands, even if they happen to be owned and operated by the same organization. This lets consumers have a doublethink where they love Xbox but hate Microsoft, even though that makes no sense if you think about it for five seconds.
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Atari Hotels: roach motels or the bomb-diggity? YOU decide!
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Atari Hotels: roach motels or the bomb-diggity? YOU decide!
godslabrat replied to x=usr(1536)'s topic in Atari General
If only people who wanted to play video games in hotels already had a means to do that. Maybe a small one they could carry in their backpack. Or even pocket. Then whatever hotel they stayed at could magically become a "Gaming Hotel". While I'm dreaming, imagine if there were a way to add any games you wanted to such a device, so you wouldn't be limited to the games of whoever the hotel signed a contract with. Just Crazy talk, I know- 119 replies
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Atari Hotels: roach motels or the bomb-diggity? YOU decide!
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You forgot "For illustrative purposes only" -
Lol, peace out.✌️
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You also have to consider what would happen if a Steve Jobs walked into l'atari right now. What if someone went to the board and said "Forget about these hokey cash-in schemes. We need to stop lining our pockets in the short term and re-invest what we make into building an empire 10-15 years from now." The people in that room would be drawing straws to see who got to throw Steve off the Eiffel Tower. It's not just the CEO. It's a company that, as has been said, has no vision, run by people who probably expect it to die at any time and are trying to get all the cheddar they can out of it before it goes. They aren't investing in a future company because they don't expect there to be a future. Talking about a wizard CEO is kind of missing the point... l'Atari's culture is one of immediate gratification. Nothing more
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Indeed. None of the big three will play well with each other, much less a has-been on a hotel venture doomed to failure. If L'Atari calls any of the main players on a hotel deal, I doubt that phone call even gets returned.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/piepacker/piepacker-online-multiplayer-for-retro-games A crowdfunded console that plays retro video games. Hooo boy....
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Here's where I struggle with the "video games will bring people to the hotels" train of thought: What video games? Because not only are all of l'Atari's properties dated, but by making that their theme, other companies with actually recognizable IPs like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo won't touch it with a 10-foot-pole. And their absence will be glaringly conspicuous. I'd even think smaller players like Capcom, Sega, and Konami will think it against their best interests to get involved. So when you say "video game themed" do you really mean video game themed, or themed around a handful of games that have been run into the ground.... and nothing else?
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T-shirts, flashbacks, keychains, and LCD games seem to be evergreen products for them. I don't see those ever going out of style. I do see them being a point of diminishing returns, though, and l'Atari would be smart to try and build something relateable to people born after Watergate. Slapping their logo on anything and hoping for the best, however, isn't going to work. Even if they occasionally get a winner*, the losers they end up picking will decreaase the overall value of their brand. *Let's call the VCS a "winner" for the sake of argument. It at least had positive cash flow. Yeah, I'm keeping my standards insanely low here.
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Unfortunately, for all the money they make on the passive part, they seem to lose (or earn at a highly inefficient rate) money on the active part. That's why 'strategy' is kind of important.
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If Atari did actually come up with a decent mascot, you just know they'd sell it off when their gas bill was due.
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Given that crypto always seemed to be about gambling and skirting regulations while doing so, it's pretty on-brand that Fred is sticking close to that.
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A nice thought, but the increased focus on "blockchain" makes me reign in my optimism.
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Just matters what your definition of "hit" is...
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That's by design. In a situation like this, I think it's really important to let the guest outline what details are and are not crucial.
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I had a chat with Kieren McCarthy about his misadventures with the Atari SA crew. Not much new information, but a few additional details putting his existing articles in context. In particular, the fascination with "chipsets" Mike Artz had. He also ventures a few opinions on the Amico, which I wasn't expecting.
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I can't think of any criteria for being a "hit" that would apply to a system that never produced more than 20,000 units, and struggled to sell those units that it did produce. We can argue about what we want vs. what Atari wants all day, but if the pure numbers we're dealing with are so low, the word "hit" just shouldn't be part of the conversation.
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I'm a tad insulted you'd suggest I can't find two projects useless at the exact same time. Heck, I can laugh at the Amico and the VCS and STILL have time left over to call the Polymega a waste of space. A model of efficiency, I am.
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That's not true. Big Lots counts.
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It's a nice little continuation of the game they played when it came to announcing specs. "We'll answer all your questions at the NEXT event!" Which conveniently never arrives. But to be fair, the other FauxRetro consoles pull the exact same thing.