Video Chess vs. GNU Chess, Grandmaster Challenge!

[phaxda]

Don't be sorry--I missed this thread the first time around and had a great time reading it!

 

Sorry to revive old threads, but having been inspired by Zero's experiment, I have decided to pit Video Chess on level 7 against Mac Chess on Strongest setting. Having heard that each move can take up to 10 hours, this might take a while....

 

Here's the log so far:

 

Mac (white) / Atari (Black)

1. e2-34 / e7-e5

2. Ng1-f3 / Nb8-c6

3. Bf1-c4 /

[carpecarne]

So I did a few games with mac chess and Video Chess. My results can be seen over at the macrumors.com site

 

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php...d=1#post2653328

 

I have to say... I was VERY impressed with Video Chess during that last game! Good job!

[Godzilla]

2600 chess vs Intellivision Chess!

Odyssey 2 chess vs Channel F Chess!

 

yea i'd love to see that, battle of the classic-era chess champions

 

I would HOPE that odyssey 2 chess would win since it came with a external COMPUTER just to be able to run the game!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Videopac...hess_module.jpg

 

(edit: oh dang, this is an old thread )

Edited January 29, 2009 by Godzilla

[BSA Starfire]

I did something similar back in the day with Atari chess on the 800 against a 3D chess game on the Atari 520STFM back around 1988 or so. Remember me and dad were astounded that the acient old 1979 8-bit game beat the ST 4 times straight. Wish I could remember what the ST chess game was.

 

Best,

Chris

[mos6507]

2600 chess vs Intellivision Chess!

Odyssey 2 chess vs Channel F Chess!

 

yea i'd love to see that, battle of the classic-era chess champions

 

I would HOPE that odyssey 2 chess would win since it came with a external COMPUTER just to be able to run the game!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Videopac...hess_module.jpg

 

(edit: oh dang, this is an old thread )

 

That is insane. If they went to that kind of bother they should have offered that external brain as a 32X sort of enhancement for other games to also use.

[deathtrappomegranate]

Way back when, comparisons of this type were pretty common.

 

Here's an extract from the manual for "Colossus Chess 4.0":

 

Colossus 4.0 (Apple II) beat the following programs by:-

Mychess 2.0		  Beyond			 CBM 64		 10.6
White-Knight Mk 12   BBC Publications   BBC			11.5 
Sargon III		   Hayden			 Apple II	   12.4
Superchess 3.5	   CP Software		Spectrum	   12.4
White-Knight Mk 11   BBC Publications   BBC			14.2
Parker Chess		 Parker Games	   Atari		  14.2
Cyrus IS Chess	   Sinclair		   Spectrum	   14.2
Superchess 3.0	   CP Software		Spectrum	   15.1
Chess 7.0			Odesta			 Apple II	   16.0
Sargon II			Hayden			 Apple II	   16.0
Chess				Atari			  Atari		  16.0
Chess				Acornsoft		  Electron	   16.0
Grandmaster		  Audiogenic		 CBM 64		 16.0
Chess				Psion			  Spectrum	   16.0
Master Chess		 Mikro-Gen		  Spectrum	   16.0

 

There's very little point in pitting 8-bit era chess software against current offerings, since there are several programs available that can regularly beat all but the very top grandmasters...

 

...but I did it anyway

 

I'm afraid that I didn't save the moves played, but I did set up "Colossus Chess 4.0" for the Atari 8-bit computers against "Deep Rybka 3" on a dual-core 2.6 GHz system. The result wasn't pretty.

 

Nevertheless, as others have said, it was pretty remarkable that some of these programs actually played proper games of chess (well, mostly), and allowed all legal moves, at all. VCS "Video Chess" and, especially, "1K Chess" on the ZX81, were noteworthy achievements. Sadly, few chess programs of the 8-bit era can offer a decent game to a human opponent, but this software is of immense historic importance, and it's great to see that some people are still interested.

[Keatah]

Wow. Verrrrrry clever. kind of like putting a humidifier and a dehumidifer in the same room and letting them duke it out. (5 point reference.)

 

 

I actually did that, great fun!!

[devwebcl]

Great to see that game between Mac & Atari.

Anybody still is interested to see Atari 2600 or 800 playing against other computers and humans?

Perhaps to make it play at www.freechess.org would be a more accurate stat.

 

Regards,

 

--Devwebcl

[devwebcl]

I was able to make play to Atari 8-bits against GNU Chess. Perhaps in a near future I could make an interface for Video Chess, but I think is little harder.

If anyone want to see the game is at: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=142225

[ovalbugmann]

I don't understand how to get the 2600's video chess to play another computer program like GNU on a different system? - Running video chess in emu? or real 2600 hardware?, but each system uses a different chess board right. How is this done?

Edited April 21, 2009 by ovalbugmann

[Rom Hunter]

By inputting the moves into the one that come out of the other.

 

[ovalbugmann]

So, on each system you would start a separate "human player vs. computer" game and essentially the human players would become the computer of the other system, by inputting the moves each computer gives on each system for the human player of the other system - so you would actually have, two opposite, but the SAME games going on, on each system?

 

It this correct?

Edited April 21, 2009 by ovalbugmann

[danwinslow]

manually. A human makes the move on behalf of the the other computer.

[devwebcl]

So, on each system you would start a separate "human player vs. computer" game and essentially the human players would become the computer of the other system, by inputting the moves each computer gives on each system for the human player of the other system - so you would actually have, two opposite, but the SAME games going on, on each system?

 

It this correct?

Yes, that's correct.